Prospect Info: The 2023-2024 Prospects Thread Pt. 3

[Vector]

His skating is still horrible no?

It’s not horrible but plodding. He has no dynamism to his game. If he was even a little bit physical he might be viable as a 4th liner. Otherwise there’s no role for him in the NHL.

 

[credulous]

i think a lot of fans don't realize just how slow the ahl game is compared to the nhl game. you can't really just look at point production. the ahl scoring leaderboards are full of guys who will never have more than a cursory nhl career because they don't skate well enough or they don't think the game fast enough to move up. i'd almost say ranking in the ahl scoring race is negatively correlated with nhl success because if you are fast enough/think fast enough for the nhl AND you put up points in the ahl you won't be in the ahl long at all

 

[Phrasing]

It’s not horrible but plodding. He has no dynamism to his game. If he was even a little bit physical he might be viable as a 4th liner. Otherwise there’s no role for him in the NHL.

I don’t know if I’d say he’s not dynamic, but plodding is apt. I think he has some dynamic qualities such as hands in tight, shot, and eye-hand coordination. Unless you meant specifically for skating, then yes.

 

[Vector]

I don’t know if I’d say he’s not dynamic, but plodding is apt. I think he has some dynamic qualities such as hands in tight, shot, and eye-hand coordination.

For the AHL but none of it is dynamic at the NHL level.

 

[Tables of Stats]

I would want to lock Karlsson up as a long term AHL scorer. The kind of scoring vet you can pair younger players with to develop their offense.

 

[arttk]

i think a lot of fans don't realize just how slow the ahl game is compared to the nhl game. you can't really just look at point production. the ahl scoring leaderboards are full of guys who will never have more than a cursory nhl career because they don't skate well enough or they don't think the game fast enough to move up. i'd almost say ranking in the ahl scoring race is negatively correlated with nhl success because if you are fast enough/think fast enough for the nhl AND you put up points in the ahl you won't be in the ahl long at all

I think the thing to look for with respect to prospects and AHL is how fast they can learn and adapt.
If a prospect have a couple of standout traits and can adapt to the A in a relatively short period of time, then they might be able to translate that to the NHL.

 

[ManVanFan]

For the AHL but none of it is dynamic at the NHL level.

NHL edge has him as the same skating level as Pius Suter.

 

[sting101]

i think a lot of fans don't realize just how slow the ahl game is compared to the nhl game. you can't really just look at point production. the ahl scoring leaderboards are full of guys who will never have more than a cursory nhl career because they don't skate well enough or they don't think the game fast enough to move up. i'd almost say ranking in the ahl scoring race is negatively correlated with nhl success because if you are fast enough/think fast enough for the nhl AND you put up points in the ahl you won't be in the ahl long at all

I think most fans that actually watch and post here do

 

[Tables of Stats]

NHL edge has him as the same skating level as Pius Suter.

Is that with the puck or without? Some guys can burn (relatively) without the puck but get slowed down when they have to carry it.

 

[Lindgren]

Saginaw beat the Soo 3-1 in the 7th game of their OHL 2nd round series, so Kirill Kudryavtsev's season is over, and likely, so is his junior career. He and Bloom were pointless in the game, KK a -2, Bloom a plus 2.

I think Bloom is the last Canucks prospect standing. (I know, not much of a prospect). Until, I guess, things ramp up again for Lekkerimaki as the Worlds get going.

Ah, I forgot about Ty Young. More excitement.

 

[Tables of Stats]

I've updated the OP with the AHL squad's stats from their 4-2 win. I've also marked in bold and italics players who's seasons have ended.

 

[M2Beezy]

Delete

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Delete

I disagree.

 

[Lindgren]

I disagree.

Delete

Josh Bloom is in action this afternoon as Saginaw's third round series vs London is underway, thus satisfying those who just can't go without their junior prospect fix. Saginaw lost the first game on Friday and Bloom was pointless.

 

[Lindgren]

Josh Bloom is in action this afternoon as Saginaw's third round series vs London is underway, thus satisfying those who just can't go without their junior prospect fix. Saginaw lost the first game on Friday and Bloom was pointless.

Another Saginaw loss, another pointless game for Bloom. (A reminder, though everyone knows: Saginaw hosts the Memorial Cup, so Bloom will get more games regardless of the outcome of this series.)

 

[RobertKron]

Another Saginaw loss, another pointless game for Bloom. (A reminder, though everyone knows: Saginaw hosts the Memorial Cup, so Bloom will get more games regardless of the outcome of this series.)

Solid B prospect doing well.

 

[wetcoast]

Solid B prospect doing well.

B as in bust?

Then again it looks like buffalo knew what they were doing here.

 

[arttk]

B as in bust?

Then again it looks like buffalo knew what they were doing here.

It’s not like we traded some gem for him

 

[krutovsdonut]

the bloom is really off this prospect.

 

[VanJack]

the bloom is really off this prospect.

Bloom was well worth the gamble.....decent size at 6'2"', 190, and certainly skates well enough. The Sabres thought enough of him to draft him in the third round of the 2021 draft.

Hard to say what his projections would be for Abbotsford next season, after a disappointing 2023-24 season. But he was acquired at the cost of journeyman d-man Riley Stilman, so hard to critique the acquisition.

 

[tradervik]

Bloom was well worth the gamble.....decent size at 6'2"', 190, and certainly skates well enough. The Sabres thought enough of him to draft him in the third round of the 2021 draft.

Not to mention the Sabres signed Bloom to a contract.

Stillman couldn't make the Sabres and spent the year in Rochester earning 1.35 million, which probably didn't make Buffalo very happy with the deal either. A "lose-lose" situation.

 

[arttk]

Not to mention the Sabres signed Bloom to a contract.

Stillman couldn't make the Sabres and spent the year in Rochester earning 1.35 million, which probably didn't make Buffalo very happy with the deal either. A "lose-lose" situation.

We flipped a cap dump for a long shot lottery ticket, don’t see a loss

 

[Lindgren]

We've got a rare Ty Young sighting! Ravensbergen allowed three goals on ten shots, got the hook, and Young has come on in relief.

Portland leads Prince George 3-0 late in the first.

 

[Lindgren]

We've got a rare Ty Young sighting! Ravensbergen allowed three goals on ten shots, got the hook, and Young has come on in relief.

Portland leads Prince George 3-0 late in the first.

Prince George lost 4-1. Young stopped 19 of the 20 he faced, the one goal coming on the power play.

Does he get a start?

 

[VanJack]

I don't know if Arshdeep Bains still qualifies as 'a prospect', but one thing is really noticeable about him early in his development. He's definitely a 'big game player', at least in the AHL.

This is the second playoff year in a row where he's been one of Abbotsford's most dominant players. He carried the offense at times in the recently-concluded series with Colorado. And I noticed that the Eagles were subjecting him to some serious physical abuse, particularly down low in the O-zone. But it hardly seem to faze him.

Despite a few stumbles during his recall to Vancouver this season, he's really not that far away from being a contributor, in a third or fourth line role at least.