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IF he doesn't make the team, can he come back and play in the playoffs for Abby?
Classic case of a garbage-time flash in the pan. Showed good smarts initially, but I had serious doubts about whether he could handle a real season of pro. Guy was 24 at the time and still only 170 lbs, and then he didn't make any gains in the offseason. I thought it was likely that he'd bust, but he busted harder than I was expecting.
I'd like to think that Sasson simply absorbed all his potential, he seems to be a guy who has come in at above what his advertised ceiling was when we signed himHe fooled a lot of people including all of Canucks’ management.
He fooled a lot of people including all of Canucks’ management.
Classic case of a garbage-time flash in the pan. Showed good smarts initially, but I had serious doubts about whether he could handle a real season of pro. Guy was 24 at the time and still only 170 lbs, and then he didn't make any gains in the offseason. I thought it was likely that he'd bust, but he busted harder than I was expecting.
Thanks. McWard was someone I had wanted to keep an eye on this year. I had some expectations as a right shot D that played a steady college game. I had hopes that he could be an everyday 3rd pairing player after a year or two in the AHL.
I don't generally fall in love with players, every player just has a value. I was hoping that Klimovich would continue to build. Seemed like a player that could turn into a physical bottom 6 guy but his development... he should have went to the Q for two years. God damn Benning.
Doerrie's Prospect RankingsThe value of the pipeline rests with two high-end prospects, Tom Willander and Jonathan Lekkerimaki.
Trading Hunter Brzustewicz in the Lindholm deal hurt the system's overall value, but Lekkerimaki and Willander are projected for a top-six scoring role and top-four minutes muncher, respectively. Both players carry tremendous value at their respective positions and are more likely to be impact players than not.
Aatu Raty has elevated his stock this season and should be a useful role player in the NHL. Depth defensive prospects Elias Pettersson and Kirill Kudryavtsev have increased their value this season. Pettersson is has a No. 4/5 projection at the NHL level, and Kudryavstev's development has seen his projection elevate to a tweener that can fill in on the bottom pair.
Seems as accurate as you would hope for.I didn't notice anyone observing that everyone's favourite analyst, Rachel Doerrie, had the Canucks at 20th in a piece for ESPN ranking every prospect group:
Doerrie's Prospect Rankings
Apologies if it was already noted.
Seems fair to me, the Canucks prospect pool is pretty shallowI didn't notice anyone observing that everyone's favourite analyst, Rachel Doerrie, had the Canucks at 20th in a piece for ESPN ranking every prospect group:
Doerrie's Prospect Rankings
Apologies if it was already noted.
Seems fair to me, the Canucks prospect pool is pretty shallow
I feel like there's a cluster of like 5-7 teams including both VAN/CGY that are interchangeableWe should be around 15th. Like, what exactly is the justification for Calgary being ahead of us?
Hunter probably put them ahead of Van.I feel like there's a cluster of like 5-7 teams including both VAN/CGY that are interchangeable
Edit: I see Zary "graduated" so yeah I think the Flames are overrated here.
That one-way contract they gave him for next year is ... not idea.
The weird thing is that he’s actually done pretty well defensively. He’s just totally changed how he played.
This guy was a puck-moving, offensive defender in the NCAA and when he signed we saw lots of impressive clips of him skating the puck up the ice and joining the rush. Did the same in Vancouver last year – a guy who was obviously looking to make good plays with the puck when he got it and push the play up the ice effectively. Then he lit up the prospects tourney in September. And then he got cut in camp and … I don’t know what happened.
Basically what we’ve seen in Abbotsford this year is a hyper-conservative player who moves the puck as safely as possible, defers to his partner, lots of glass-out, never joins the play. I can barely remember him being involved in a scoring chance in 30 GP at that level and I’ve watched probably 25-28 of those games. 21 SOG in 32 games. He’s usually in good position because he’s played so conservatively and is a fairly reliable depth AHL player because of that but in terms of NHL projection … there’s nothing there.
I figured the worst-case would be that he was a 0.5 points/game quality AHL puck-mover but he’s been so much worse than that.
McWard and Filip Johansson to me are pretty much the same deal. Slightly undersized two-way AHL defenders who skate pretty well and move the puck pretty well at this level and are ‘ok’ defensively – a bit soft in coverage, prone to some errors, but generally reliable enough – but simply don’t have any traits that project moving up levels. Same tier/type as a guy like Wyatt Kalynuk who was in Abbotsford last year – good AHL players, maybe good enough for a cup of coffee at some point but don’t really do anything that translates into being an effective NHL player, offensively or defensively. And at age 23/24 I don’t know how much room there still is for growth.
I notice Jack Malone is on an ATO with the Comets, but he's still a Canucks prospect (as per EP his rights are still held by the Canucks). How does that work? Did the Canucks just loan him there because Abbotsford is full of prospects on ATO's already or what's going on with that?
I think McWard has NHL upside. Decent size/strength and is a good enough skater with a heavy shot.
I never got the hype here around Hirose. Didn't think he would be this bad.
I'm not that high on Johansson either. Not a good enough defender and not enough size/strength to project to the next levels
You have to give some props to the Canucks scouts on this one.....There was nothing too riveting about Sasson's NCAA stats.....and there was little to indicate that he'd be so much better as a pro.I'd like to think that Sasson simply absorbed all his potential, he seems to be a guy who has come in at above what his advertised ceiling was when we signed him
Huh?You have to give some props to the Canucks scouts on this one.....There was nothing too riveting about Sasson's NCAA stats.....and there was little to indicate that he'd be so much better as a pro.
But clearly the Canucks were intrigued by his motor and his work rate....both of which have stood him in good stead in his first year in Abbotsford. His skating really stands out, and as a natural center, he's got a shot at being a bottom-six NHL forward at the very least.
Not bad for an undrafted guy, who's only net cost was a two-way NHL contract.
He was a good sign for sure, and probably did have interest amongst some teams, true.Huh?
If a player is over 6', knows how to skate, has any semblance of two-way game, and puts up 1PPG+ as a second-year player in the NCAA, that's basically an automatic ELC somewhere. Sasson had interest from multiple NHL teams.
He was a good sign for sure, and probably did have interest amongst some teams, true.
But he was definitely a "does the little things" type of scouting report. His offense was never his calling card (or so was scouted), and the fact that he was on a line with 2 more highly coveted guys that signing periods lead to question marks about whether enough offense could translate. His skating, while always pretty good, has also taken another step, enough that it might very well earn him games next year. That, to me, is definitely coming in above his advertised ceiling.
I think that it's a fair ranking as the Flames do have the quantity over us if one was making a top 15 between the 2 organizations.I feel like there's a cluster of like 5-7 teams including both VAN/CGY that are interchangeable
Edit: I see Zary "graduated" so yeah I think the Flames are overrated here.