Prospect Info: The 2019 Draft Thread - Part 2

[McDNicks17]

Last one hit 1k. I was going to call this one The Midlife Draft Thread, but I don't think people would have got it without seeing the last thread title haha.

A few links:

Elite Prospects - NHL Draft Center

ISS Hockey Releases ISS Top 31 for March, Rankings of the Top Prospects for the 2019 NHL Draft - ISS Hockey

Bob McKenzie's List (January)

Click to read more...

 

[McDNicks17]

That ISS list scares me.

If the Oilers pick Matthew Robertson with their 1st...

 

[Cloned]

@McDNicks17

Should be called "The 2019 Teenage Angst Draft Thread"

 

[ImmuneEH]

Seems like if our pick falls out of the top 9 things could get a tad worrisome.

I think that Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Turcotte, Byram, Cozens, Podkolzin, Zagreb, and Krebs are all 'safe picks'. Meaning they are all safe bets to become solid NHLers.

I say worrisome because JP has obviously struggled + injury worries, and Yamamoto has skill but it is not known if he will overcome his size. This is a pick we have to really make count.

There will still be some solid players on the board obviously, but there are a lot more 'question marks'.

 

[Roof Daddy]

Seems like if our pick falls out of the top 9 things could get a tad worrisome.

I think that Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Turcotte, Byram, Cozens, Podkolzin, Zagreb, and Krebs are all 'safe picks'. Meaning they are all safe bets to become solid NHLers.

I say worrisome because JP has obviously struggled + injury worries, and Yamamoto has skill but it is not known if he will overcome his size. This is a pick we have to really make count.

There will still be some solid players on the board obviously, but there are a lot more 'question marks'.

This might be a good year to trade back. If we’re at 10 and there’s somebody another team is high on, I have no problem moving back to 17 while nabbing a 2nd, take Tomasino @ 17 (kid reminds me of Jake DeBrusk).

 

[ImmuneEH]

This might be a good year to trade back. If we’re at 10 and there’s somebody another team is high on, I have no problem moving back to 17 while nabbing a 2nd, take Tomasino @ 17 (kid reminds me of Jake DeBrusk).

I feel the same. I don't think the difference between the pick at 10 and picks in the 17-20 range is that large. If we traded down we could either get a 2nd, a prospect, or a useful roster player.

 

[Soli]

Last one hit 1k. I was going to call this one The Midlife Draft Thread, but I don't think people would have got it without seeing the last thread title haha.

A few links:

Elite Prospects - NHL Draft Center

ISS Hockey Releases ISS Top 31 for March, Rankings of the Top Prospects for the 2019 NHL Draft - ISS Hockey

Bob McKenzie's List (January)

I'll admit I didn't start a new thread cause I didn't know how to follow up adolescence.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

Cole Caufield, Moritz Seider, Arthur Kaliyev are prospects that I hope the oilers are looking closely at.

 

[McDNicks17]

This might be a good year to trade back. If we’re at 10 and there’s somebody another team is high on, I have no problem moving back to 17 while nabbing a 2nd, take Tomasino @ 17 (kid reminds me of Jake DeBrusk).

I think there's actually a decent drop-off right around 13th.

Tier 1 - Hughes, Kakko
Tier 2 - Turcotte, Podkolzin, Dach, Cozens, Byram
Tier 3 - Boldy, Zegras, Krebs, Soderstrom, York

 

[LTIR]

Cole Caufield, Moritz Seider, Arthur Kaliyev are prospects that I hope the oilers are looking closely at.

Not with their first I hope

 

[dustrock]

Honestly someone like Boldy at 10 or 11 I'd be fine with

 

[MettleMcOiler]

Not with their first I hope

I hope we can get one in the 2nd round.

 

[780il]

I was just at the Oil Kings vs Ice game today.

Robertson didn't really impress me at all. He's a no flash defensive guy that doesn't really do anything offensively.

Krebs didn't really show very well (the puck was in his zone most of the time). I noticed that he was playing center, can play wing as well. They were also using him on the point of the pp. He's a fluid skater and a clearly talented guy that's obviously being held back by the quality of his teammates. He pks pretty well and is a good passer, needs to shoot more.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

I'm in the boat in overdrafting for defencemen and then trade for the wingers we need with the overflow of depth. I would love to see our top 6 d-core full of top 4 d-men.

 

[Cloned]

I'll admit I didn't start a new thread cause I didn't know how to follow up adolescence.

HF imitates life.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I'm in the boat in overdrafting for defencemen and then trade for the wingers we need with the overflow of depth. I would love to see our top 6 d-core full of top 4 d-men.

IMO we've done a bit of that already albeit maybe we should've taken Wilde instead of McLeod at this past draft.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

IMO we've done a bit of that already albeit maybe we should've taken Wilde instead of McLeod at this past draft.

I just would like to keep on the same path. And then maybe finally hit a home run and get a legitimate 1D and 2D pairing.

1D - 2D
Top 4- Top 4
Top4 - Top 4

That would be a dream to finally see.
I would want to focus defence heavy drafting until we finally get this. This is just me though.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Posted this in the other thread:

March 2019 Draft Rankings

1. Kakko
2. Hughes
3. Turcotte
4. Dach
5. Byram
6. Krebs
7. Zegras
8. Cozens
9. Podkolzin
10. Boldy
11. York
12. McMichael
13. Lavoie
14. Dorofeyev
15. Kaliyev
16. Newhook
17. Pelletier
18. Soderstrom
19. Pelletier
20.Heinola
21. Broberg
22. Suzuki
23. Caufield
24. Hoglander
25. Sieder
26. N. Robertson
27. M. Robertson
28. Leason
29. Harley
30. Brink
31. Foote

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I was just at the Oil Kings vs Ice game today.

Robertson didn't really impress me at all. He's a no flash defensive guy that doesn't really do anything offensively.

Krebs didn't really show very well (the puck was in his zone most of the time). I noticed that he was playing center, can play wing as well. They were also using him on the point of the pp. He's a fluid skater and a clearly talented guy that's obviously being held back by the quality of his teammates. He pks pretty well and is a good passer, needs to shoot more.

Yeah, I probably wouldn't even draft Robertson with our 2nd.

Krebs is interesting, and I've had a lot of the same thoughts when watching his shift-by-shifts. I like his game, but I'm not sure how much upside he's got.

Zegras, someone who hasn't been talked about a lot here, is pretty much the opposite. He's a bit small and turns the puck over a bit too much, but has got a ton of upside. If he can put it together, his ceiling is very high.

Who do you have ahead?

 

[lakai17]

I think there's actually a decent drop-off right around 13th.

Tier 1 - Hughes, Kakko
Tier 2 - Turcotte, Podkolzin, Dach, Cozens, Byram
Tier 3 - Boldy, Zegras, Krebs, Soderstrom, York

Byram has moved up to my tier 1. Kid is dynamite.

 

[780il]

Yeah, I probably wouldn't even draft Robertson with our 2nd.

Krebs is interesting, and I've had a lot of the same thoughts when watching his shift-by-shifts. I like his game, but I'm not sure how much upside he's got.

Zegras, someone who hasn't been talked about a lot here, is pretty much the opposite. He's a bit small and turns the puck over a bit too much, but has got a ton of upside. If he can put it together, his ceiling is very high.

Who do you have ahead?

I like Zegras more than Krebs personally. His upside is huge.

 

[Zaddy]

If the Oilers drop a few spots my next target outside the obvious ones would be Ville Heinola. He's super-underrated in the rankings at the moment but he's having a real solid year.

13 points in 32 games in FEL, compared to Heiskanen who had 10 in 37 in his draft year. Heinola looked solid at the WJC too and mostly played top-pairing together with Jokiharju on a finnish gold-medal winning team.

It's insane to see how little hype he gets, but the same thing happened with Heiskanen. It wasn't until the U18 worlds that his draft stock saw a massive improvement. Maybe the same thing will happen with Heinola.

 

[Llamamoto]

If the Oilers drop a few spots my next target outside the obvious ones would be Ville Heinola. He's super-underrated in the rankings at the moment but he's having a real solid year.

13 points in 32 games in FEL, compared to Heiskanen who had 10 in 37 in his draft year. Heinola looked solid at the WJC too and mostly played top-pairing together with Jokiharju on a finnish gold-medal winning team.

It's insane to see how little hype he gets, but the same thing happened with Heiskanen. It wasn't until the U18 worlds that his draft stock saw a massive improvement. Maybe the same thing will happen with Heinola.

I agree completely with this. He scored a goal and had an assist in 4 1/2 games in the WJC. Such a smart and smooth skating defensemen. Probably my 3rd favourite defensemen after Byram and York, possibly even 2nd behind Byram.

 

[thadd]

I haven't paid enough attention to prospects this year, but I know a few people who have seen Dylan Cousins play on the road this year and they've given me the impression that he's a safe pick. DO NOT want to see us draft Josh Williams or Matthew Robertson. Last thing this franchise needs is a bunch of memberberry picks. Only way I'm cool with seeing them get drafted is if they fall very far.

I'm in the boat in overdrafting for defencemen and then trade for the wingers we need with the overflow of depth. I would love to see our top 6 d-core full of top 4 d-men.

It scares me how often I hear people say stuff of this sort. Intentionally over drafting via position will destroy your prospect pool. You always want to go BPA. If you're drafting and developing well consistently you will have a good team and you'll be able to afford to trade away young talent to address areas of concern.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I haven't paid enough attention to prospects this year, but I know a few people who have seen Dylan Cousins play on the road this year and they've given me the impression that he's a safe pick. DO NOT want to see us draft Josh Williams or Matthew Robertson. Last thing this franchise needs is a bunch of memberberry picks. Only way I'm cool with seeing them get drafted is if they fall very far.



It scares me how often I hear people say stuff of this sort. Intentionally over drafting via position will destroy your prospect pool. You always want to go BPA. If you're drafting and developing well consistently you will have a good team and you'll be able to afford to trade away young talent to address areas of concern.

Agree about Robertson and Williams. Alex Vlasic is another one.

However, I wouldn't say Cozens is a safe pick. He's a toolsy guy with questionable IQ (not a fan myself). I think a safe guy in the top-10 is Peyton Krebs, but his upside isn't as high as most of the others. I think we should just go BPA this draft with highest upside being the factor used to rank them (although obviously taking into account the likelihood of them reaching their potential too) , NOT best player currently.