Prospect Info: The 2015 NHL Draft Thread VII

[thethinglonger]

If Hanifin really does make it to six because some have the theory is harder to get forwards, LL would be foolish not to take him. But I doubt he or Ivan go past the Flyers.

Hopefully we can use this to get Columbus to make a massive payment for our pick. I can see them really wanting to take Proporov.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

Hopefully we can use this to get Columbus to make a massive payment for our pick. I can see them really wanting to take Proporov.

Maybe you get the eighth and a 2nd/3rd rounder this or next year.

 

[VoidCreature]

I dunno i think his shot overall is pretty transferable. As well as his speed. Im sure NHL Dman wont let him blow past as easy but still, you can see he has speed and he has the hands to make moves at top speed so lets not get crazy and say nothing is transferable.

But i do think we need to relax a little about highlight videos. I believe one of the complaints about Zacha is when he isnt into the game he is just lost and not in the right place. Also heard his hockey IQ isnt as high as some of the others.

But he does have that one-timer down from the dot it looks like.

Let's also remember that he reportedly did a great job shutting down McDavid in Sarnia's series against the Otters, and he still put up 2 goals and an assist. I'm optimistic.

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

Zacha should be our pick, even if Marner is available, imo.

Frightening, because I see a bit of Kopitar in his game.

Marner is as talented, not as big, but way more consistent.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Marner is as talented, not as big, but way more consistent.

And he apparently getting bigger.

 

[Cheddabombs]

And he apparently getting bigger.

Honestly I've never liked criticizing a player over their size. Unless the guy is 5'3, 100 pounds soaking wet, I wouldn't be worried. These kids are still ~18 years old, they can still grow in terms of height and there's no doubt they will put on more weight.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

A lot of that video was nontransferable skill in my opinion.

By far the biggest knock on Zacha, in my opinion, is that if a 6'3", 210# kid that can skate like the wind isn't blowing away Junior competition, how much of a ceiling can there realistically be? How much leeway do you give him for any of the numerous adjustments he had to make in playing his first hockey season in North America?

EDIT: HOOOOOOOLY **** are those U-18 goals impressive though... Absolutely owned the neutral zone and made goals from nothing basically by himself. The goal at 3:15 was just insane, even if it was against Latvia. That ability to identify space, and then use his speed and hands to attack it with control, that's what you want in your best players.

Man, I'm glad it's not me making the choice at #6. Still no idea how to choose between Zacha and Barzal, let alone all the other strong prospects likely available at that spot.

 

[MichaelJ]

By far the biggest knock on Zacha, in my opinion, is that if a 6'3", 210# kid that can skate like the wind isn't blowing away Junior competition, how much of a ceiling can there realistically be? How much leeway do you give him for any of the numerous adjustments he had to make in playing his first hockey season in North America?

EDIT: HOOOOOOOLY **** are those U-18 goals impressive though... Absolutely owned the neutral zone and made goals from nothing basically by himself. The goal at 3:15 was just insane, even if it was against Latvia. That ability to identify space, and then use his speed and hands to attack it with control, that's what you want in your best players.

Man, I'm glad it's not me making the choice at #6. Still no idea how to choose between Zacha and Barzal, let alone all the other strong prospects likely available at that spot.

Zacha has great talent...kid only played in 30-some games and had to transition to NA. It's a risk but one worth taking. All that skill in a player that size is rare.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Zacha has great talent...kid only played in 30-some games and had to transition to NA. It's a risk but one worth taking. All that skill in a player that size is rare.

I definitely don't disagree. But I can see why someone would. Though the quotes from his coach in that red line report write-up on him were kinda promising; talking about how it took him a little while to get settled into the right game, and how he didn't really get to hit his stride for more than a few games at a time with all the injuries and suspensions.

http://www.redlinereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Pavel-Zacha-draft-spotlight1.pdf

 

[supersonic jet]

I definitely don't disagree. But I can see why someone would. Though the quotes from his coach in that red line report write-up on him were kinda promising; talking about how it took him a little while to get settled into the right game, and how he didn't really get to hit his stride for more than a few games at a time with all the injuries and suspensions.

http://www.redlinereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Pavel-Zacha-draft-spotlight1.pdf

Don't know your needs but, would you trade your 1st for Buff and our 1st 17 overall. Just putting it out their.

 

[thethinglonger]

Don't know your needs but, would you trade your 1st for Buff and our 1st 17 overall. Just putting it out their.

Unless a major prospect is coming back, we shouldn't be dropping back 11 spots in this draft.

 

[supersonic jet]

Unless a major prospect is coming back, we shouldn't be dropping back 11 spots in this draft.

Could throw in Burmistrov, 22yr old 3rd line defensive Center has never played with offensively gifted players. Has very good puck possession stats. Has 5 yrs of NHL rights left.

 

[Devils Trap]

Could throw in Burmistrov, 22yr old 3rd line defensive Center has never played with offensively gifted players. Has very good puck possession stats. Has 5 yrs of NHL rights left.

No thanks

 

[SeidoN]

Could throw in Burmistrov, 22yr old 3rd line defensive Center has never played with offensively gifted players. Has very good puck possession stats. Has 5 yrs of NHL rights left.

so basically throwing in nothing

 

[thethinglonger]

For what it's worth to anybody watching the Erie playoffs, Dylan Strome is going through something rather significant, which is affecting his play.

Confirmed by one of HF's reliable Erie insiders:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=102001602&postcount=802

 

[MichaelJ]

For what it's worth to anybody watching the Erie playoffs, Dylan Strome is going through something rather significant, which is affecting his play.

Confirmed by one of HF's reliable Erie insiders:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=102001602&postcount=802

Depending on what it is he could easily drop if teams don't want to risk too much with their pick.

 

[Czech Trio]

Considering he is still well enough to play I doubt it alters his draft position. Don't see any scenario where Strome falls out of the top 4.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Could throw in Burmistrov, 22yr old 3rd line defensive Center has never played with offensively gifted players. Has very good puck possession stats. Has 5 yrs of NHL rights left.

I like Burmistrov, but he's actually gonna be 24 by the time next season starts, and besides that isn't nearly enough value to drop out of the top-10 in a draft with this many good forwards available.

 

[EspenK]

If Hanafin falls or another team is high on Prov/Werenski I would be happy to trade down.

Something like #6 for #8 + Milano or Bjorkstrand

we'd def have to dangle more than that, cbj loves both those prospects

Why would Columbus trade their top 15 pick last year and this year's first rounder to move up two spots?

Most of the posters on our board wouldn't do any of these. I'm of a different mind. If Hanifin is available at 6 I'd trade Milano and a 3rd or next year's 2nd for that pick. If he is gone but Provorov is available I'd trade Rychel & the 38th pick to move up. Beyond that it gets a bit too pricey unless you toss in one of your young D prospects. But I'm not giving up #8 unless its that pick and Anaheim's 2nd. My objective/hope for the draft is to somehow get 2 of Hanifin/Provorov/Werenski.

 

[DiscoBall]

Most of the posters on our board wouldn't do any of these. I'm of a different mind. If Hanifin is available at 6 I'd trade Milano and a 3rd or next year's 2nd for that pick. If he is gone but Provorov is available I'd trade Rychel & the 38th pick to move up. Beyond that it gets a bit too pricey unless you toss in one of your young D prospects. But I'm not giving up #8 unless its that pick and Anaheim's 2nd. My objective/hope for the draft is to somehow get 2 of Hanifin/Provorov/Werenski.

No #8, No Hanafin/Prov party

 

[EspenK]

No #8, No Hanafin/Prov party

I'd do 8 plus a 2nd for 6 if that is what it took to get Hanifin or Provorov. Wouldn't like it but I'd do it.

 

[DiscoBall]

I'd do 8 plus a 2nd for 6 if that is what it took to get Hanifin or Provorov. Wouldn't like it but I'd do it.

Would do it...especially because we still get Barzal/Zacha/Rantanen

 

[thethinglonger]

If we were to trade down with Columbus, I'm sure Lou would be asking for more than 8th overall + a 2nd rounder.

I know Bjorkstrand/Milano is a bit of a pipedream, but I'm sure Columbus wouldn't be the only team calling us if Hanifin or even Proporov are still on the table at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EMCt6GNLx4

(my Youtube embeddings never seem to work)

 

[Devil X]

If we were to trade down with Columbus, I'm sure Lou would be asking for more than 8th overall + a 2nd rounder.

I know Bjorkstrand/Milano is a bit of a pipedream, but I'm sure Columbus wouldn't be the only team calling us if Hanifin or even Proporov are still on the table at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EMCt6GNLx4

(my Youtube embeddings never seem to work)

My thing with moving down a couple spots is the chance to add something else plus still have a shot at Barzal, Zacha, Rantanen. I believe someone like Columbus might want Provorov. No idea who the Flyers would want but im guessing they take one of the forwards mentioned but i still will gladly take any of those guys and be very happy. Its possible that the Flyers want that other Dman too, drawing a blank on his name.

 

[Devils Dominion]

My thing with moving down a couple spots is the chance to add something else plus still have a shot at Barzal, Zacha, Rantanen. I believe someone like Columbus might want Provorov. No idea who the Flyers would want but im guessing they take one of the forwards mentioned but i still will gladly take any of those guys and be very happy. Its possible that the Flyers want that other Dman too, drawing a blank on his name.

Philly will most likely take Provorov if he's still there.
If not, they prob take Barzal, Zacha or Rantenan