Post-Game Talk: Thanks, we needed that... Jets win 6-3!

[AKAChip]

Great to see the Laine bashing has stopped here but I was wondering if Maurice out coached Gallant ... asking for friend.

Maurice finally made the right lineup calls, made easier by Ehlers returning. Let’s not crown him yet. I think Gallant is a bit overrated as a coach but this Vegas roster is extremely overrated. Stastny and Pacioretty are pretty much completely done. They are a one line team plus Tuch. Great mobile defencemen, though.

 

[Ducky10]

They now need to leave Laine where he is to see if this line can make it work (consistently).
There's promise based on last nights game -
There was some pressure for him to perform on the top line and there was an obvious major improvement in his effort and over all game.
Keep it up Laine - you've shown us you can bring it - need to see that full time.

The second line looks super dangerous -
One game samples can fool us sometimes but they looked fast, effective and happy (yes, happy) - nice combo
Being the optimist, if they actually improve as they play together, I see these guys as the line that nobody wants to play against.
Super fast, quick and nifty - and all 3 can score.

I was sad to see Lemmy go - but there's only so much room.
He's not out of the picture IMO - he's an option any night they need what he brings - I can see him in and out.

Lowry looked mean last night - something to prove.
Great to see him back up his comments
D pairing were all solid for the most part - Niku is a sly little player - he can make you look bad on occasion.

Last thought -
It appears to me that Scheif is getting pushed around a lot - not just the time Laine came to the rescue.
This may be impacting his play -
I hope the team sees this as well because opposition is now focusing on him and IMO, knocking him off his game to some extent.
This will only get worse as we approach the PO's - and brutal when in the playoffs.
I could be wrong on this - but he looks off, a little less spring in his step - and this might be why.

Agreed with your observations on Scheif. I noticed it quite a bit in the Avs game as well, teams are playing him really hard. They need to find a little more room for him out there, if the TLC line can continue to return to form like last night, Maurice needs to give them a few more of the tougher match ups from Schief.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I don't think the Stone trade goes through. We do not Stone in the top 6 if Connor Lit Ehlers Laine Schief Wheeler gets it done. Also, how do you know it's goin to be Roslo. It could be Ves or Niku. You are making an assumption.

Just following a scenario that has been highly touted here.

I don't think there is any real chance of it being Niku.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Well, I did grab this reaction...

Actually did lol when I saw those arrows.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Just following a scenario that has been highly touted here.

I don't think there is any real chance of it being Niku.

Fair enough. In that case, then you are 100% right.

 

[DashingDane]

Agreed with your observations on Scheif. I noticed it quite a but in the Avs game as well, teams are playing him really hard. They need to find a little more room for him out there, if the TLC line can continue to return to form like last night, Maurice needs to give them a few more of the tougher match ups from Schief.

I think they target him because he is the best Jet player but also because (if we are being honest) he is pretty soft for a 6'2 player. I can't remember the last time he stuck up for himself without Wheels, Buff or Laine jumping in to defend him. It's one of the few things I have always found strange about Scheifele, especially when you see smaller guys like Frenchie, Little, Tanev and Ehlers stick up for themselves all the time.

 

[Revolver]

Great to see so many Jets fans at the game. I wasn’t sure what to expect from the Vegas fans but they were not hostile. Just a bit of friendly ribbing. That’s what I personally saw anyway.

Vegas has quite the in-game production. Some of it is a bit weird, like videos of Shaquille O’Neil telling the crowd to make some noise.

Anyways - great win and happy to see Laine score finally.

 

[Ducky10]

Golf?

And pretty much every other sport played at the highest levels.

 

[Revolver]

Morrissey on the backend begs to differ...

Morrissey can sure roll off a check though. Nobody does it better.

 

[Ducky10]

Maybe give that Roslo line another game or two. But I think Copp should be back at C. That means either MP or Roslo with Lowry which might not be ideal but is better than that 4th line.

As much as I liked Copp at C with that 4th line, the value he adds to the 3rd line is higher imo. It just creates two checking lines. I like the idea of a player like Stone but with the way the lines were performing last night I think the Jets might be better served by adding a guy like Hayes to play between Roslo and Perreault/Appleton, to add more scoring and keep TLC together. The sum of them has always been better than the parts.

 

[Ducky10]

I think they target him because he is the best Jet player but also because (if we are being honest) he is pretty soft for a 6'2 player. I can't remember the last time he stuck up for himself without Wheels, Buff or Laine jumping in to defend him. It's one of the few things I have always found strange about Scheifele, especially when you see smaller guys like Frenchie, Little, Tanev and Ehlers stick up for themselves all the time.

Not sure I agree tbh, I haven't really found Scheifele allowing himself to get pushed around. He's definitely targeted because he's our best player. It's also tougher for Maurice to get him away from certain match ups on the road, like last night and in Denver.

 

[GNP]

As much as I liked Copp at C with that 4th line, the value he adds to the 3rd line is higher imo. It just creates two checking lines. I like the idea of a player like Stone but with the way the lines were performing last night I think the Jets might be better served by adding a guy like Hayes to play between Roslo and Perreault/Appleton, to add more scoring and keep TLC together. The sum of them has always been better than the parts.

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Very much agree with your post on signing Hayes - "very smart" and cost effective. Hayes is on pace for 60 points this year, and Little is on pace for 50 points. Hayes could start off centering the 4th line, and that would give us scoring on all 4 lines. He could also replace Little, in the event of injury.

Considering that Stone will want $ 9.5 to 10 mil to resign, and cost us a great prospect, and potentially 2 1st round picks --signing Hayes would be a smart move, and be much more affordable and Cap friendly.

 

[Ducky10]

Despite some hiccups, that let's face it all of our D suffer, Niku provides what the Jets have been missing for most of the season, and is even more evident when Buff is out of the line up. He is a quick thinker, a creative player, a great passer, a very good skater and has great instincts. He just has abilities that at least 4 of our D don't really possess and can execute most of the time on plays that have a higher degree of difficulty. He's becoming more positionally sound and comfortable in his reads, which allows him to have to defend less and play with the puck on his stick more, as well as jump into the play. Vegas had a really hard time marking him last night with the areas he was popping up in.

I so much want to see him in the lineup when Buff is playing, preferably together. I think the notion that them playing a similar style being a problem is overstated.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Did not see the game, nor read this board, but I'm wondering about the lines.

Ehlers and Connor together, one on the off wing. Has that ever been tried before?

Laine 2 PP goals but still a -2 on the night, LOL. How did he look on the top line?

I wondered if they are trying these lines the last 2 games before the deadline to determine if and what they might need, or not need?

 

[gojetsgo]

Did not see the game, nor read this board, but I'm wondering about the lines.

Ehlers and Connor together, one on the off wing. Has that ever been tried before?

Laine 2 PP goals but still a -2 on the night, LOL. How did he look on the top line?

I wondered if they are trying these lines the last 2 games before the deadline to determine if and what they might need, or not need?

he was great pretty much shows why +/- is a garbage stat

 

[rkp]

Would be great fun if Dorion called to accept Chevy's offer and Chevy told him we have decided we don't need Stone.

With last night's lineup, you are correct in asking that question. There is no good answer. Of course , it was just 1 game but if Laine, Connor, Ehlers can continue playing like that Wheeler would be the only 1 you could move. Our 8.25 mil captain playing 12 min on the 3rd line.

I prefer to move Little before Wheeler, Little as a second line center isn't going to take us far into the playoffs.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

As much as I liked Copp at C with that 4th line, the value he adds to the 3rd line is higher imo. It just creates two checking lines. I like the idea of a player like Stone but with the way the lines were performing last night I think the Jets might be better served by adding a guy like Hayes to play between Roslo and Perreault/Appleton, to add more scoring and keep TLC together. The sum of them has always been better than the parts.

Several people are suddenly looking at Hayes. He would not be a bottom 6 C. He would push Little and Lowry down. We could have 3 genuine scoring lines with Little between Perreault and Appleton/Roslovic and a really solid checking line with CLT. We would also add an important element that is completely missing right now, coverage for a top6 C injury. Our PB corps would be pretty strong too.

 

[robertocarlos]

Laine scores 2 goals and is still a minus 2. Poor kid can't win. He had a good game.

 

[robertocarlos]

Jets should not add, except for Stone as a rental.

Edit: I guess a Hayes can't hurt.

 

[Ducky10]

Several people are suddenly looking at Hayes. He would not be a bottom 6 C. He would push Little and Lowry down. We could have 3 genuine scoring lines with Little between Perreault and Appleton/Roslovic and a really solid checking line with CLT. We would also add an important element that is completely missing right now, coverage for a top6 C injury. Our PB corps would be pretty strong too.

Hayes being a bottom 6 centre wasn't the point, it was him being a better fit and greater need than a winger to create 3 scoring lines. Whether he or Little are 2C or 3C is a moot point.

 

[Guardian17]

The only thing I like about the Vegas franchise is their cheerleaders.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I prefer to move Little before Wheeler, Little as a second line center isn't going to take us far into the playoffs.

Who do you replace Little with? I am talking about our current roster + Stone.

I think we saw last night that the problem has not been Little all along. It has also not been Ehlers, Connor or Laine. It has been any combination of 3 of those 4 together.

I would like to add more strength down the middle but that wasn't the point of the post you quoted.

 

[Whileee]

Wheeler's reaction:

Instant classic Jets' gif. Hope we have plenty of opportunities to use it in the near future...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Hayes being a bottom 6 centre wasn't the point, it was him being a better fit and greater need than a winger to create 3 scoring lines. Whether he or Little are 2C or 3C is a moot point.

Then we agree. The thing is that it fixes our C corps, top to bottom regardless of exactly who plays on which line. And it gives us injury coverage that we lack now. Aaaannd it leaves Copp beside Lowry.

 

[robertocarlos]

Surprise surprise, no mention of Max Pacioretty's butt end to Lowrys FACE.

Yet they suspend McDavid 2 games for finishing his check on Leddy. Funny that that's the exact hit that Kulikov got nailed with (as he was reaching down to play the puck).

I've never seen a team get screwed more by DoPS than the Jets.

I did not see that. How come Lowry didn't beat the shit out of Patchy?