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Add in a team playing in red, weirdly reminiscing certain ex-country. Egilible players are everyone who's daddy was a hockey player born in said ex-country and a defector. Perfect.
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Of course no NHL player is going to come out and say this is a stupid idea. They will all toe the company line, but I very much doubt we will see the players play like they do at the Olympics. Will Stamkos fight like a madman to get back from a broken leg to compete in the WC, will Datsyuk more or less play on one leg for the pride of his country at the WC? I think we see at the pre-season games and the ASG what it looks like when players play not to get injured. I suspect the WC will be the same way, players are just coming back from summer, rehab and bulking up in preparation of the season, not in season shape and therefore even more prone to injury. Seeing as NHL players play for the SC they will not risk everything for, what was it 150k USD each? For most of the elite players on the NT, Young Americans and Leftovers that is not a huge amount.
Crosby will probably dutifully talk about how excited he is and how it's a huge honor and then he will be out with a LBI a week before it beginsToews will do his rahrah thing because that's who is, Zetterberg will be injured so will Datsyuk, Subban will be excited and happy, Kessel will be awkward and yeah, some fans especially in Canada will turn in. The US and Europe won't give a toss.
I am surprised that the NHL that is so hellbent on expanding hockey into non-traditional markets in the US is so tone deaf. I somehow doubt that Obama will tweet if Oshie beats the Russians in a shootout or that crowds of US fans will gather at seven (or four thirty) in the morning to cheer. Even if Olympic hockey doesn't directly translate into gate for the NHL it does build interest and awareness among non-fans. If say, 1 of 1000 casual fans who tune into Olympic hockey turns into a true fan and starts watching/playing then that's a net gain for the sport and for the NHL. Maybe among those beginning by watching the Olympics is the next Arizona Crosby
"I don't like it at all. Not one thing about it," /Mark Streit
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I should have probably qualified that to any elite star players that will be used to push this travesty.
TheTwelfth
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Why is it people count 02 Olympics as a best-on-best but always forget the 05 WHC?
capebretoncanadien
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At first I was like wow cool a young guns team and euro team....
....now it just seems lame.
Gotta bring in the Swiss and if not the Slovaks the Latvians or even Slovenia.
If I was a Swiss or Slovak player that got the call from team Euro I would laugh in their face.
The inclusion of the two spare parts teams just sucks all of the legitimacy and credibility away from an international tournament.
Daly is on glue. Ancestral roots. Who are you going to play for? Is Subban gonna play for the Jamaican team? I'm going to go play for Scotland me and McElhinney.
....now it just seems lame.
Gotta bring in the Swiss and if not the Slovaks the Latvians or even Slovenia.
If I was a Swiss or Slovak player that got the call from team Euro I would laugh in their face.
The inclusion of the two spare parts teams just sucks all of the legitimacy and credibility away from an international tournament.
Daly is on glue. Ancestral roots. Who are you going to play for? Is Subban gonna play for the Jamaican team? I'm going to go play for Scotland me and McElhinney.
It's going to be another riot to follow how they'll handle the logistics of these joke teams, especially Euro Leftovers. Who's going to be on team staff? Could they actually try to find some decent personnel from Old Continent, or just have some NHL coaches moonlight, further underlining the gimmicky nature of it all? It's all going to be like from another galaxy compared to the manner these things are usually handled in Europe, further adding to the insult this whole thing presents to all hockey outside North America.
Hopefully any European coach with even meager merit will not take it up, leading to a situation where they'll have to either get some tactically inept unknown or just go with NA-based staff, taking yet another PR hit in the process.
Wishful thinking at this stage most likely, but if they can't sort out the way this whole thing should be organized, perhaps that could provide enough reason to just scrap the thing.
Hopefully any European coach with even meager merit will not take it up, leading to a situation where they'll have to either get some tactically inept unknown or just go with NA-based staff, taking yet another PR hit in the process.
Wishful thinking at this stage most likely, but if they can't sort out the way this whole thing should be organized, perhaps that could provide enough reason to just scrap the thing.
Because most teams were nowhere near their best. High quality for a WHC but not close to the Olympics.
KarmaPolice
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Slovaks should at least have their team. I can see maybe try ONE gimmick team, but to take away the Slovak team and have two? I think that's pushing it too far too fast. Try one first, with Team Slovakia added to the other nations, then add an 'Under 23' gimmick team if they really must (which I still don't like, but it's better than 2 gimmick teams) and see how it goes and how people respond. If it's a hit, then you maybe push a little farther with another 'gimmick' team next time. I don't like this.
Big Phil
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Do you hear that noise? That's Alan Eagleson laughing his butt off. Wondering how the heck you can possibly screw up such a simple tournament? Would team North America really be trying to beat Team Canada? Think about this, Connor McDavid is going to try his hardest to beat.................his own country? Huh? Alright NHL, this was cute and all but it isn't a funny joke if you are actually serious about this.
Think about this. Under this format Wayne Gretzky doesn't play in the 1984 Canada Cup for Canada. Mario doesn't play in 1987. Crosby in 2010. I mean, are we serious here?
How can you possibly butcher the World Cup? There wasn't a voice of reason that said it was the stupidest idea they've ever heard? There weren't 25 people who said this? Or............everyone?
Yeah, the credibility of this tournament - if they follow through - has just been taken away. How the NHL did that I don't know but they managed to take a tournament that has provided some of the best hockey in the history of mankind and make it a joke. Only the NHL could do this.
Now in all honesty, this a year and a half away. I still say there is no way that they keep this because of what I hope will be a strong public backlash. That's my honest opinion because this falls under the category of "they can't be serious". The NHL made this serious fan right here actually get BORED from the skills competition today. Man, it isn't enough the all-star game is irrelevant they have to bungle up the skills competition thing too? That whole shootout thing is just a farce.
Anyway, expect the NHL to eventually smarten up with the World Cup.
Think about this. Under this format Wayne Gretzky doesn't play in the 1984 Canada Cup for Canada. Mario doesn't play in 1987. Crosby in 2010. I mean, are we serious here?
How can you possibly butcher the World Cup? There wasn't a voice of reason that said it was the stupidest idea they've ever heard? There weren't 25 people who said this? Or............everyone?
Yeah, the credibility of this tournament - if they follow through - has just been taken away. How the NHL did that I don't know but they managed to take a tournament that has provided some of the best hockey in the history of mankind and make it a joke. Only the NHL could do this.
Now in all honesty, this a year and a half away. I still say there is no way that they keep this because of what I hope will be a strong public backlash. That's my honest opinion because this falls under the category of "they can't be serious". The NHL made this serious fan right here actually get BORED from the skills competition today. Man, it isn't enough the all-star game is irrelevant they have to bungle up the skills competition thing too? That whole shootout thing is just a farce.
Anyway, expect the NHL to eventually smarten up with the World Cup.
Just horrible. I can't believe they're going to do this, it's not going to be taken seriously by anyone I don't think.
Nope, that would involve the NHL admitting that they were morons for presenting the idea in the first place. Not gonna happen.
This along with the NHL dithcing the Olympics = best-on-best hockey is officially dead for the forseable future.
Gary Bettman is the lowest form of life in the hockey world.
Big Phil
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Yeah but eventually the NHL admits things. Look at the crease rule, it took them the entire three years to finally change it (thanks Brian Burke for continuing to push that rule despite it sucking the life out of the game). They don't like doing it, but with all the backlash this will have I can't imagine them doing this. McDavid for all we know can be good enough to make Team Canada. MacKinnon too. My feeling is there is just no possible way this can have anything but a horrible backlash unless TSN and Rogers are paid to push this idea like it is the best thing since sliced bread. But the public won't put up with it.
I'm more inclined to laugh than cry... No respect to tradition whatsover, but I'm sure that as showbusiness this will be moderately entertaining. Will probably watch some matches even, but no way will I take this even remotely seriously, or with the tiniest respect.
So players on the young stars team will have to play against their own country? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
first they ruin the all-star game with their ****** format and add that stupid breakway challenge.
now they are going to ruin international hockey. It's clear they don't want to send NHL players to the Olympics and this tournament is not a real world cup in any way.
I could go on a rant about Bettman but I would get banned for racism.
now they are going to ruin international hockey. It's clear they don't want to send NHL players to the Olympics and this tournament is not a real world cup in any way.
I could go on a rant about Bettman but I would get banned for racism.
Yeah. This is perhaps what saddens me the most. Could be there is some good, even great, hockey to be seen... but in the end, all of it will be overshadowed by the biggest brainfart in the history of the game. Talk about it with people years from now, and all most will mention is how Bettman and his cohorts managed to frick it up beyond recognition.
The only way I will watch a single game is if they agree on Olympic participation by then (unlikely). Then I could watch and take it for what it is: a circus meant for the pleasure of the average North American hockey fan, a joke. But apparently Daly is so stupid that he thinks this is good enough to replace the Olympics, which is not true and the reason I will boycott this tournament. I wish Finland the best of luck, but I can't get behind this. Accepting this tournament is essentially accepting that real high-level international hockey has been destroyed by North Americans.
"I would say if it was 10 years ago it would be upsetting because 10 years ago we had a lot of guys in the NHL," said Jaroslav Halak, the New York Islanders goaltender and a native of Slovakia. "Right now, we got maybe 12. So that would be tough to make a team out of 12 guys. Obviously you need 20. It will be different to see (a Team Europe) but at the same time I’m open to it. It would be nice to play with some other players from different countries."
Halak has bombed for Slovakia in his most recent appearances, so it's not even clear he'd be Slovakia's no. 1 goaltender in a World Cup. Yeah, to start with, likely, but Slovakia's better goaltender eventually in Sochi was clearly Laco (delivering a memorable arse-check behind his own net!), a KHL star goaltender in recent seasons, who managed to shut out Russia's superstar offence. Slovakia only lost that game 1-0 in a shootout.
"It would be nice to play with players from various countries..." Yeah, like on the New York Islanders!
Best of luck there! (Despite some uneven performances; he often gets bailed out by the Isles' highly potent offence this season.)
"It would be nice to play with players from various countries..." Yeah, like on the New York Islanders!
Best of luck there! (Despite some uneven performances; he often gets bailed out by the Isles' highly potent offence this season.)
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Nothing against Finland. Finland is the 1 European team I cheer for when Canada is no longer in the mix....but not a ratings driver, nor will Team Euro Leftovers... I'm hoping this scheme falls apart by the World Championships. I'm not overly shocked that the NHL dumb dumbs came up with something that is actually worse than the annual Skoda Invitational tournament, I'm just disappointed and want this venture to fail miserably.
Invitational? What are you on about? The only invitational tournament I'm aware of is the World Cup. Maybe the EHT would qualify but the WHC has a relegation system, for christ sake.
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