Temperature Amongst the Fanbase
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Hali33
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I think a lot of things have gone poorly since 2013 when we looked like we were set up to be the class of the East for years. I'm bitter about that because this I loved this core. I see us wasting the prime years of whoever is left from it.
I have no confidence in our current decision makers for this team. There's a couple people of people I respect that do, but I just am not seeing it. I think there's reason to be optimistic about some of our prospects and it was desperately needed. But they came at a price and nothing is guaranteed. The work outside that has been highly questionable, IMO.
I think it's incredible that this organization is still too arrogant to bring in outside help and opinions despite things going in the wrong direction for the past few years and mistakes continuing to be made.
I've said my piece on how I feel about how they treated Claude on his way out, one of the best things to happen to this franchise. I also think they've hid from and communicated poorly to fans while charging top dollar for tickets and it sucks.
I'm at a low point with this team, basically.
I have no confidence in our current decision makers for this team. There's a couple people of people I respect that do, but I just am not seeing it. I think there's reason to be optimistic about some of our prospects and it was desperately needed. But they came at a price and nothing is guaranteed. The work outside that has been highly questionable, IMO.
I think it's incredible that this organization is still too arrogant to bring in outside help and opinions despite things going in the wrong direction for the past few years and mistakes continuing to be made.
I've said my piece on how I feel about how they treated Claude on his way out, one of the best things to happen to this franchise. I also think they've hid from and communicated poorly to fans while charging top dollar for tickets and it sucks.
I'm at a low point with this team, basically.
C77
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Strangely enough I am fairly optimistic.
I think it was evident when the Bruins were drafting Spooner in 2010 and Koko the following year that there was a disconnect between the front office and Julien and that the long-term plans of management didn't include Julien's system. In some way his coaching success forced management to keep him.
The positive element now is that they should all (finally) be on the same page.
My interpretation of Sweeney's free agent signings so far is that he is largely biding his time until his drafted guys are ready. The brass will improve pro roster if possible without giving away their best future assets. Building through the farm is the logical way forward for long-term success. The NHL is a young man's league now, and you can't win with a handful of great players surrounded by marginal talents.
I had written that the Bruins, now that the team was healthy, should have given Julien another 5 games which would have coincided with the Vancouver game this weekend. I would have fired him years ago because I think he is a great coach for a subpar team, and a subpar one with a great roster. So I think he was doing a good job this year considering the Bruins blue line.
I do think it is a good idea to see evaluate the players under a new coach before making moves. It would probably have worked wonders with Seguin, but it wasn't meant to be. Like others I am excited to see if certain players will respond better to Cassidy this year. But I think Sweeney needs to act at the deadline and in the offseason to give this team more of a coherent identity.
I love the idea that the team could be playing more on instinct. In my opinion too many games over the past few years have had a funereal atmosphere to them. But one of the hidden secrets of Julien's success is that I believe his style of play kept our games lost to injury down. If the Bruins are going to start taking the puck to net and try to play more aggressively, then the depth will be tested.
I think it was evident when the Bruins were drafting Spooner in 2010 and Koko the following year that there was a disconnect between the front office and Julien and that the long-term plans of management didn't include Julien's system. In some way his coaching success forced management to keep him.
The positive element now is that they should all (finally) be on the same page.
My interpretation of Sweeney's free agent signings so far is that he is largely biding his time until his drafted guys are ready. The brass will improve pro roster if possible without giving away their best future assets. Building through the farm is the logical way forward for long-term success. The NHL is a young man's league now, and you can't win with a handful of great players surrounded by marginal talents.
I had written that the Bruins, now that the team was healthy, should have given Julien another 5 games which would have coincided with the Vancouver game this weekend. I would have fired him years ago because I think he is a great coach for a subpar team, and a subpar one with a great roster. So I think he was doing a good job this year considering the Bruins blue line.
I do think it is a good idea to see evaluate the players under a new coach before making moves. It would probably have worked wonders with Seguin, but it wasn't meant to be. Like others I am excited to see if certain players will respond better to Cassidy this year. But I think Sweeney needs to act at the deadline and in the offseason to give this team more of a coherent identity.
I love the idea that the team could be playing more on instinct. In my opinion too many games over the past few years have had a funereal atmosphere to them. But one of the hidden secrets of Julien's success is that I believe his style of play kept our games lost to injury down. If the Bruins are going to start taking the puck to net and try to play more aggressively, then the depth will be tested.
mikelvl
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I have ZERO confidence in Charlie Jacobs, Neely, and the management group who is making the decisions on NHL talent. With the only exeption being the apparent good drafting. This feels like the ship is sinking like they did in the Sandy Moger era in the 90's. The fish is rotten from the head down.
ReggieMoto
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First and foremost I'm a fan and I make a strong effort to watch every game. I don't go to the games though.
Being a fan does not make me blind to the ineptness of the organization. I agree with the points in both of these posts, especially the last points each made.
Being a fan does not make me blind to the ineptness of the organization. I agree with the points in both of these posts, especially the last points each made.
ODAAT
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Agreed, I think the former #8 has the Jacobs brainwashed and I think this teams Pro scouting is horrific
Really encouraged by their amateur scouting though
I didn`t/don`t like the way this whole CJ firing went down, think it should have been handled much differently and sooner however, I may be in the minority here but I think Sweeney has the vision, it`s just not close to being aligned with Neely`s
smithformeragent
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smithformeragent
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Bruins lanyard has been thrown in the trash.
Blue Jays lanyard has been ordered from the Amazon.
Blue Jays lanyard has been ordered from the Amazon.
Morris Wanchuk
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I still blame the new schedule. These out of conference games are terrible. You used to have the division 6-8 times a year. Now it is 4-5? Not enough familiarity.
Its not even the constant success. The 2007-2008 Bruins had less points than the teams that missed the playoff the past 2 years but the entertainment value was night and day. Yes, some of it was probably how low of expectations we had, but that team played with some balls.
smithformeragent
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That's part of it.
Many of them feel bunched up too so you could see the Canadiens for two out of three games in December and then be done with them for the year.
winterwill
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LouJersey
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Out of market games are a tough watch these days. I have NHL tv but if I'm not watching the Bruins im watching the Rangers, Devils or Islanders. I hate the NBCSports coverage. I'll watch the oilers late on the weekends sometimes.
It's just not a great product. Two many systems, to little contact, so little passion. No rivalry.
It's just not a great product. Two many systems, to little contact, so little passion. No rivalry.
I look at our prospect pool and get excited. But I look at the management and get depressed. And it all starts at the top, with an owner who refuses to do things the right way because he wants his damn playoff gate. Where would we be this year if we had auctioned off Soderberg and Eriksson the last two trade deadlines? And it hurts knowing that when we are good again that Bergeron and Krejci will be aged vets, with Marchand getting up there in age too. Those three guys are legit proven championship level players who are being wasted right now because of the stubbornness of ownership.
Feeling more optimistic now then I have in awhile. Julien should have been let go after last season but Sweeney out of respect gave him another year, that was a mistake, Julien's style of play does not mesh with Sweeney's going forward. Sweeney's ideas are more in line with mine, younger faster players with offensive talent are to be valued more then non-talented defensive plugs. I just hope that he doesn't do something silly like giving up some of our futures for a rental. The cupboard is stocked with lots of good prospects, now we just need a coach who knows who to utilize them, hopefully Sweeney doesn't blow this.
I am hate the Habs level angry about Claude Julien's firing. Not just the way it was done which was bad enough but IMO he didn't deserve to be fired in the first place.
With respect to management it feels like deja vu all over again, the team has gone back in time to the mid 1990s. Mediocrity in the front office and mediocrity on the ice. I loathe, detest and despise them for wrecking the franchise yet again.
With respect to management it feels like deja vu all over again, the team has gone back in time to the mid 1990s. Mediocrity in the front office and mediocrity on the ice. I loathe, detest and despise them for wrecking the franchise yet again.
Oates2Neely
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Roster is better than they've played. Core needs a boot in the rear.
Bottom six needs injection of youth. Too many passengers
Trade needed. Left side dman preferrably. Scoring winger
Team is close to getting back to playoffs & being dangerous
Not sure on Cassidy, but hopefully coaching search yields a solid bench boss
Not sure on Neely, how much say he has. If indeed Sinden has a say, that's scary
Bottom six needs injection of youth. Too many passengers
Trade needed. Left side dman preferrably. Scoring winger
Team is close to getting back to playoffs & being dangerous
Not sure on Cassidy, but hopefully coaching search yields a solid bench boss
Not sure on Neely, how much say he has. If indeed Sinden has a say, that's scary
smithformeragent
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What happened to that older lady they used to show all the time in the balcony who wore a practice jersey with about a thousand pins on it?
She was in those commercials after the lockout begging fans to come back.
Does she still go to the games?
I wonder what she thinks of this.
She was in those commercials after the lockout begging fans to come back.
Does she still go to the games?
I wonder what she thinks of this.
hoss75
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Professional sports are getting worse and worse, bland products, conservative coaching, long games due to commercials, loud static noise from the media creating pseudo-fans and expensive. I liked the Bruins and the NHL because they held out longer, but they're going down that path as seen last Saturday by the $12 beers, 3 hour long game, and spectators that obviously couldn't care less.
As for the Bs specifically, it's only going to get worse before it gets better, but if it severs the 'Baw-stahn Spahts Fan' from wanting to engage... that could be a silver-lining.
As for the Bs specifically, it's only going to get worse before it gets better, but if it severs the 'Baw-stahn Spahts Fan' from wanting to engage... that could be a silver-lining.
Oates2Neely
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Maria from Watertown perhaps? You can catch her discussing her feelings on the hockey show every Saturday morning from 9-11
Bruinfanatic
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Seems like Neely gets blamed for every bad declision this organization makes.Neely was here in 2011 was he not.I don't care if they fired Julian on the day of Pats parade,not sure what one has to do with the other.
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smithformeragent
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Mama take my Rask jersey
I won't wear it anymore
Franchise is ****ed too ****ed for me
I feel like I'm breaking down Jacobs' door
I won't wear it anymore
Franchise is ****ed too ****ed for me
I feel like I'm breaking down Jacobs' door
smithformeragent
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Correct.
My take is this and I may be off.
Bruins blow the 3-0 lead to the Flyers.
Chiarelli is on his second coach.
Neely is promoted. This creates some check on Chiarelli's power.
There's pressure on Clode to make some adjustments.
It's also an extension of ownership "taking back" some control from Chiarelli.
The marriage works for all parties involved until it stops working.
Chiarelli takes the fall.
Sweeney is brought in.
Former Bruin, current employee as assistant GM and worked in Providence.
This the lines are blurred and we cannot know to what extent anyone is "the guy" calling the shots.
It's fine to have a team approach, but someone has to be "the guy".
Look no further than the Islanders.
Garth Snow was interviewed on NBCSN a couple of weeks back and when he was grilled on who was calling the shots, he hemmed and hawed.
I suppose that organizations in pro sports don't have to be transparent and accountable to media and fans, but when they aren't, they cannot expect to be trusted or instill confidence.
