He's throwing his body around and is working hard. But hasn't been very creative or involved offensively, though he is playing on the 2nd PP unit. Overall I think his line with Lantosi and Zigo has been Slovakia's worst on 5 on 5.
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He's throwing his body around and is working hard. But hasn't been very creative or involved offensively, though he is playing on the 2nd PP unit. Overall I think his line with Lantosi and Zigo has been Slovakia's worst on 5 on 5.
stastny12
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I also read that maybe Bondra would not be in the roster, at all. If they find out that Daloga is out of the tournament, for good, they will call most likely a next defenceman. Which player it could be? Is it even possible for them, when they before the WC send home Stajnoch, Sersen etc. and did not call a Gernat? This guys have not been playing a hockey for while.
I am just wondering what are your thoughts...
I am just wondering what are your thoughts...
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slovakiasnextone
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From the sounds of it, Daloga might be able to continue the tournament. The way I read the information that they have released so far is that there are no signs of concussion yet.
But if he can't play, I assume they will call the player who was the last cut. Well that was Grman who is also injured, so I think the next in line are Rosandic and Stajnoch.
slovakiasnextone
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Such a heart breaking loss. On the positive side of things, everyone is beating everyone in this tournament, so making the QF's as the 7th or 8th seed might be as good, or even better, than finishing 5th or 6th, Big game coming up against Germany. They way Slovakia has played this tournament they should win, but goaltending is worrysome and so is the penalty kill. Those things alone could easily come back to haunt Slovakia against the Germans, or even the Danes or French.
Not a bold prediction to make. That's what Slovaks regularly do, after all. Unable to play well when they're "supposed to win".
As I mentioned earlier, this tournament could well turn out to be Pyongyang, Version 2: ecstasy after the opening game (perhaps defeating the eventual champion here as well) – and all downhill from then onwards.
You're kidding. I haven't noticed anyone beating Russia yet. Having to play the quarterfinal game against Russia would be near equal to a death sentence.
Okay, let me rephrase, everyone except Russia lol. But Sweden could still beat them and win the group. Also, the changed the format in this year's tournament. It's not the 4th team going up against the 1st team in the other group. Both groups will be ranked together 1-8. If the results go their way, Slovakia could finish above the 4th ranked team from the Bratislava group.
Finland could end up as the #1 seed and Slovakia as #8. And even if Finland ends up with the highest rank, I think Slovakia stands a better chance against them than against Russia, Canada, USA or Sweden. Neither of those four started as well as Finland, but are heating up and will be ready once the QF's comes.
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PapaQ
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I think the team showed way more than in Pyongyang already. Sure, there might be some struggle in the rest of the matchups, but I don't think it can be called a "lucky coincedence" when we played well 3 matches in a row againts stronger teams.
Despite all the positive things after those 3 games their PK has been just brutal. Currently the PK% is dead last. I don't know who on the coaching staff is responsible for the PK selection but they should change it on the fly. For example Marincin has a weird habit of bending on one knee to prevent the cross crease pass way too often. Jaros and Sekera had been physically outmatched several times. Also no forwards are able to put any pressure on the point. The whole PK as a unit is just too static.
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slovakiasnextone
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Yes, my point was that I am trying to jinx that prediction into not being true like my one regarding this team lacking offense I made prior to the tourney, haha.
Yeah, they need to change something about the PK and definitely try to be less static. I would expect Handzus to have some hand in the PK as he has been pretty invaluable in that regard as a player, though of course that might not always translate into coaching as well.
Definitely, the performances on the whole have been much better than in Pyongyang, just the ultimate result might still be the same.
If we lose against Germany tomorrow, I suppose that's equivalent to that Slovenia loss at the Olympics, and then it's Auf Wiedersehen and goodbye.
And really, with that midget-level penalty killing, they would hardly deserve a better fate, despite overall much better play. Goaltending (apart from the first game) and face-offs have also been marked weaknesses of this team.
SoundAndFury
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I think faceoffs had to be expected with centers like that.
Having said that, Germans haven't impressed so far and they will play 2nd day in a row, it's all still very much in Slovak hands. Realistically, 3 points out of games against Finland, USA and Canada is pretty much grade A scenario.
Having said that, Germans haven't impressed so far and they will play 2nd day in a row, it's all still very much in Slovak hands. Realistically, 3 points out of games against Finland, USA and Canada is pretty much grade A scenario.
You are mistaken, according to this IIHF webpage:
IIHF - Tournament Info 2019 IIHF ICE HOCKEY WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
The system you mention only applies to semi-finals, not quarter-finals. Quarter-finals are played in the old way. So, if Slovakia finishes 4th in Košice (very optimistic prediction), they would face the group winner from Bratislava.
Outofbodyinhungary
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slovakiasnextone
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Nice. Hopefully if nothing else comes from this tourney, at least a few players will garner some interest from better leagues/teams than than their current ones.
Ah, they talked about the format change briefly on Swedish television and I took their word for it, or maybe I misunderstood them. That changes things. Tough road ahead for Slovakia, but even if they just make the QF's I think people will be very happy. Especially with how well they have stood up against the top nations so far.
Lantosi, Liska and Lunter. These undrafted young forwards have some serious speed. I hope NHL teams are noticing. Sukel is another positive surprise for me. I've liked Studenic so far too but am not surprised, I've liked his game for some time.
If Slovakia takes 3 points in all of their remaining games, while USA takes 0 points against Canada but wins the rest of their games, Slovakia ends up above USA in the standings. Even if USA earns a point against Canada, or Slovakia drops a point to Germany or Denmark, I imagine Slovakia would finish ahead of USA. In this scenario they end up with the same amount of points, but Slovakia won their game against USA and I think that would be the deciding factor.
slovakiasnextone
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I don't think it makes much sense to speak about possibly surpassing US in the ranking when we have yet to get even one point against Germany. When Germany getting 3 points today might still lend us in the territory where Slovak media are writing articles about the extremely unlikely things that have to happen in order for us to make the QFs, haha.
I am hoping for a repeat of this kind of gmae tonight:
I must point out that Pyongyang is the capital of North Korea, the previous Winter Olympics were held in Pyeongchang, South Korea.
Good talk with Jiri Fischer about Bucek, Lantosi, Liska - Here.
In short:
- Its all about speed
- Bucek was very good in playoffs (but there isnt a question why he is not on WCH)
- Lantosi is covered by almost every NHL team
- Liska will be drafted for about 90%
slovakiasnextone
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Thanks for the link.
Just one thing - could you guys please correct Kakko's name? It seems to say Kaako on all of Jiri's answers.
Outofbodyinhungary
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Can't really see anything in the attached picture, but we're choke-masters extraordinaire.
No one can lose in as spectacular fashion as Slovaks can. Possibly no other nation is so weak mentally and psychologically. (See the two missed Olympic qualifications around the turn of the century – those were similar to last night.)
That doesn't mean we're dumb or lack skill. But we're monumentally weak mentally and psychologically. And coupled with unwarranted pride, obstinacy, and refusal to take advice from others in many situations, that's a recipe for self-destruction.
The way Slovakia managed to lose last night's game was so absurd and far-fetched it actually made me laugh out loud (out of shock).
Despite all that and another disaster of a home championship, and Pyeongchang, Version 2 (thanks for the correction, Urbanskog), the team's play this year and in previous years has been like day and night.
Massive improvement overall, just inability to finish it off. I wish Ramsay could stay for another couple of years. If not, the "new regime" under GM Šatan should definitely continue. We just need to be patient.
The worst thing that could happen now would be, just because this tournament is another disaster for us, to get back to the old ways, to the Vůjtek and Cíger type of hockey. Yep, those WC tourneys were disasters as well (apart from the flash-in-the-pan 2012), but also Slovakia's hockey was excruciating to watch. This year, it's been a joy to watch Slovakia play in every game – just the results are missing, for the time being.
No one can lose in as spectacular fashion as Slovaks can. Possibly no other nation is so weak mentally and psychologically. (See the two missed Olympic qualifications around the turn of the century – those were similar to last night.)
That doesn't mean we're dumb or lack skill. But we're monumentally weak mentally and psychologically. And coupled with unwarranted pride, obstinacy, and refusal to take advice from others in many situations, that's a recipe for self-destruction.
The way Slovakia managed to lose last night's game was so absurd and far-fetched it actually made me laugh out loud (out of shock).
Despite all that and another disaster of a home championship, and Pyeongchang, Version 2 (thanks for the correction, Urbanskog), the team's play this year and in previous years has been like day and night.
Massive improvement overall, just inability to finish it off. I wish Ramsay could stay for another couple of years. If not, the "new regime" under GM Šatan should definitely continue. We just need to be patient.
The worst thing that could happen now would be, just because this tournament is another disaster for us, to get back to the old ways, to the Vůjtek and Cíger type of hockey. Yep, those WC tourneys were disasters as well (apart from the flash-in-the-pan 2012), but also Slovakia's hockey was excruciating to watch. This year, it's been a joy to watch Slovakia play in every game – just the results are missing, for the time being.
