Post-Game Talk: Team is still broken

[McFlash97]

Make a statement. Sit RNH, Arvidsson, and send Dermott to the AHL. Show management, thier acquisitions are trash.

 

[Shanahanigans]

You can bet on the top 6 to start scoring eventually. But there are some real concerns with this team. Here's what I think they are:

1) The loss of Mcleod. This player isn't without warts (who isn't), but his defensive game, shot suppression, puck movement and zone entries were HUGELY important on this team. Aside from Bouchard-Ekholm, this is not a good puck moving Dcore. Mcdavid, Draisaitl and Mcleod are 3 of the best centres in the league at supporting their Dcores by SKATING the puck out. Hugely important when your bottom 4 dmen can't really move the puck. Henrique offers different strengths, but he is nowhere near Mcleod in shot suppression and helping the Dcore by skating the puck out.

Before Mcleod graduated to being a full time NHL player, the Oilers top 6 would score a bunch, and the bottom 6 would give it all back. Mcleod and Foegele actually gave us a bottom 6 who outchanched and generally outscored teams, which is massive. Its not a coincidence that we were first round and out for years, then when Mcleod started carrying the bottom 6, we started going deeper into the playoffs. A functional bottom 6 is massive for any contender. Lundell for Florida, Cirelli for Tampa, O'Connor for Colorado, etc.


2) We have 1 functional pair, and Nurse and Kulak who are being eaten alive because they are being paired with #7s. This is an issue we all saw coming. How management missed this is beyond me. Having 2 basically non functional pairs also makes it harder for the forwards to score, because who is getting them the puck? Watch Dermott on the 2-2 goal yesterday- what is he doing on the complete wrong side of the ice? How do they gain the zone and score that easily? We need at least 2 NHL dmen and quickly.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Fire Jackson. He f'ed up FA
Fire Bowman for letting Holloway and Broberg walk
Knobby needs to go. He lost the room
Fire Schwartz.. Our goalies can't win
Fire Coffey. The old boys club needs to go

 

[Oilhawks]

Fire Jackson. He f'ed up FA
Fire Bowman for letting Holloway and Broberg walk
Knobby needs to go. He lost the room
Fire Schwartz.. Our goalies can't win
Fire Coffey. The old boys club needs to go

Missing the ?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Things, they is changing.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Things, they is changing.

What sucks is we don’t have enough working forwards to have Arvidsson not on the top unit lol

 

[Duke74]

Things, they is changing.

I like these changes except for Arvidsson on PP1. I'd prefer Corey Perry as the net-front man on that unit.

Edit: @CycloneSweep just beat me.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

What sucks is we don’t have enough working forwards to have Arvidsson not on the top unit lol

I mean Arvidsson is just in front of the net, they could have tried Perry.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I like these changes except for Arvidsson on PP1. I'd prefer Corey Perry as the net-front man on that unit.

Edit: @CycloneSweep just beat me.

I get it though. They probably want a guy that can do a bit more than park his ass and Perry doesn’t have the speed for that.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Id trade one of the so called "leaders" before I fire another coach.

Why the f*** do our players ONLY respond to coaching changes?

 

[Oilhawks]

Things, they is changing.

Better super duper extra late than never

 

[Canovin]

Things, they is changing.

I would switch Hyman and Drai. I honestly think McDrai have gotten complacent when they're playing together.

I highly doubt any coach in the league have the balls to do that switch tho

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I would switch Hyman and Drai. I honestly think McDrai have gotten complacent when they're playing together.

I highly doubt any coach in the league have the balls to do that switch tho

I can see what you're saying, but I also wouldn't.

 

[FlameChampion]

What sucks is we don’t have enough working forwards to have Arvidsson not on the top unit lol

Henrique isn’t a terrible option for net front

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The Idea I like the best with the PP, is the potential to flip Bouchard for Ekholm with unit one, to use him again with Nurse and unit too.

Bouchard on unit 1 for :30, Ekholm for :45, then Nurse and Bouchard for the rest.

 

[FlameChampion]

The Idea I like the best with the PP, is the potential to flip Bouchard for Ekholm with unit one, to use him again with Nurse and unit too.

Bouchard on unit 1 for :30, Ekholm for :45, then Nurse and Bouchard for the rest.

One nice thing about Ekholm is hes more willing to make a simple play and/or shoot the puck. JSkinner seems to be similar.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Edmonton is dead last now in ES shooting % lol. 4.81%

Teams like Vegas are 13.64%

HD save % is 75.86. Above a few teams

Top teams have 85%-93%

Vancouvers #1 goalie is out for who knows how long and their backups are top 10...

Edmonton still top 3 in HDC For, Corsi, Top 10 in least high danger chances allowed.

Edmonton 2nd last at ES HD shooting % with 9.62%. A few points above WPG (who have a wall in net). Top teams have a 21%-36%

 

[kevy9999]

Why the f*** do our players ONLY respond to coaching changes?

Weak on ice leadership

Edmonton is dead last now in ES shooting % lol. 4.81%

Teams like Vegas are 13.64%

HD save % is 75.86. Above a few teams

Top teams have 85%-93%

Vancouvers #1 goalie is out for who knows how long and their backups are top 10...

Edmonton still top 3 in HDC For, Corsi, Top 10 in least high danger chances allowed.

Edmonton 2nd last at ES HD shooting % with 9.62%. A few points above WPG (who have a wall in net). Top teams have a 21%-36%

7 game sample means nothing. Show me stats at 20 game mark

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

One nice thing about Ekholm is hes more willing to make a simple play and/or shoot the puck. JSkinner seems to be similar.

I wonder JSkinner and the potential for one timers with the quality passing that McDrai "shout' be able to provide.

 

[K1984]

Edmonton is dead last now in ES shooting % lol. 4.81%

Teams like Vegas are 13.64%

HD save % is 75.86. Above a few teams

Top teams have 85%-93%

Vancouvers #1 goalie is out for who knows how long and their backups are top 10...

Edmonton still top 3 in HDC For, Corsi, Top 10 in least high danger chances allowed.

Edmonton 2nd last at ES HD shooting % with 9.62%. A few points above WPG (who have a wall in net). Top teams have a 21%-36%

Vegas are the anti-Oilers.

They torch the league every October, only to gradually fizzle out as the season wears on.

 

[oXo Cube]

Edmonton is dead last now in ES shooting % lol. 4.81%

Teams like Vegas are 13.64%

HD save % is 75.86. Above a few teams

Top teams have 85%-93%

Vancouvers #1 goalie is out for who knows how long and their backups are top 10...

Edmonton still top 3 in HDC For, Corsi, Top 10 in least high danger chances allowed.

Edmonton 2nd last at ES HD shooting % with 9.62%. A few points above WPG (who have a wall in net). Top teams have a 21%-36%

It's the exact same deal as last season.

There are definitely some issues that can/should be worked through, but the team is going to start winning a lot of games even if it makes absolutely no changes.

 

[Kerberos]

None of them look slow to me.

Well maybe I'm biased but watching other games around the league, we don't play with anywhere near the pace or intensity of other teams. It's an eye test but a pretty damning one so far.

 

[Morpheus]

Someone else better take a stab at the GDT for a while. Thats the problem. Plus I am heading to Vegas Friday to watch the Raiders Chiefs game.

I can do the next GDT.
Have a great trip brotha!!

 

[Cloned]

Well maybe I'm biased but watching other games around the league, we don't play with anywhere near the pace or intensity of other teams. It's an eye test but a pretty damning one so far.

Pace was fine yesterday, we are getting burned on stupid plays both offensively and defensively.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Pace was fine yesterday, we are getting burned on stupid plays both offensively and defensively.

What game were you watching? Last 2 games talented speed teams were blowing the doors off beating us with speed and counters. You could watch basically any shift of Necas last night and see how much he was burning us with speed. We couldn't even contain.

If this team had to play against McD....

The Oilers don't come close to matching the speed of top teams like Dallas or Carolina. We're trying to move pucks quickly as answer to matching pace. But what this results in is a lot of miscues and can fall into the trap of playing these teams. The Oilers can have some quick puck movement, but that isn't speed. Its pace of puck.