Olympics: Team Finland 2022

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Finn's got a very tough draw IMO. Swiss are also very hard to play against if you get them.

I know but you Czechs are in a tougher spot, so I shouldn't complain. People probably say that Czechs dug their own grave for losing against Denmark but what if Denmark just is very good. ROC/RUS couldn't score more than 1 goal against them untill 6 seconds left on empty net to 2-0 it.
 
Before the tournament I said that EHT nations are the favorites and that stands. 3/4 of the EHT teams are on the bottom side of the bracket and the only EHT team on the top side Sweden will go to the final. That's what I think.
I'm liking Canada up there. I think a loss to US will get them flying. We will see. Now that Finn's and Russia play each other.. I don't even see a clear Gold favourite anymore. Only thing I'd bet money on is that Canada will beat China again.
 
We have to beat Switzerland. Not even thinking about Finland.. however, our path to Gold is like this

Switzerland.. Finland... most likely Russia and then Canada. I'm not liking those odds at all and I really like our team!

If Czechs go through of all of those to the final and loses to Sweden in the final, I'll actually be mad lol.
 
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I know but you Czechs are in a tougher spot, so I shouldn't complain. People probably say that Czechs dug their own grave for losing against Denmark but what if Denmark just is very good. ROC/RUS couldn't score more than 1 goal against them untill 6 seconds left on empty net to 2-0 it.
Danes are a nightmare! They give you the zone, every Dman is in perfect position and the goalie is positoinal solid. You just skate and skate and skate and shoot and shoot but nothing seems dangerous. They are so patient. Then, when you screw up, they all skate fast and are gone! We outshot them 16-4 and were down 2-0 after the first.lol They will drive Latvia nuts!

Czechs are roughly where they belong .. around 6th place... we always knew we'd have a tough draw. Finn's should've had an easier quarter and then 2 tough matches but not Russia till final. You are a favourite but didn't get a favourite draw at all.
 
I'm liking Canada up there. I think a loss to US will get them flying. We will see. Now that Finn's and Russia play each other.. I don't even see a clear Gold favourite anymore. Only thing I'd bet money on is that Canada will beat China again.

The 12 team Olympic system is weird and makes these rematches and makes luck a bigger factor than it usually is in terms of getting the right opponents.
 
Danes are a nightmare! They give you the zone, every Dman is in perfect position and the goalie is positoinal solid. You just skate and skate and skate and shoot and shoot but nothing seems dangerous. They are so patient. Then, when you screw up, they all skate fast and are gone! We outshot them 16-4 and were down 2-0 after the first.lol They will drive Latvia nuts!

Czechs are roughly where they belong .. around 6th place... we always knew we'd have a tough draw. Finn's should've had an easier quarter and then 2 tough matches but not Russia till final. You are a favourite but didn't get a favourite draw at all.

Yeah I know. They have surprisingly good roster with many KHL background players and the likes of Mikkel Bödker who is a very good player and who could be NHL player right now still and at least 1-2 more NHL level players there.
 
Before the tournament I said that EHT nations are the favorites and that stands. 3/4 of the EHT teams are on the bottom side of the bracket and the only EHT team on the top side Sweden will go to the final. That's what I think.

Well said and agreed.
 
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I don't know if you noticed or not, but it says above the bracket that "there will be a reseeding after the quarterfinals". This means that the bracket is not fixed - the highest seeded round-robin team that advances to the semis will actually play the lowest seeded one. So, if USA doesn't get past their quarter but Finland and ROC do, Finland would be the highest seeded semi team and would avoid ROC in the semi as ROC would get the second seed.

Of course, USA is the favorite against GER/SVK - so ROC is still the most likely semi opponent for Finland. However, if USA, ROC and SWE win but FIN loses to CZE, then ROC and SWE (2nd and 3rd seeds, respectively) would play against each other in the semi.
 
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If Jalonen dont get a NHL job after this season its a crime. If it happens, who should replace Jalonen as the headcoach for leijonat? Mikko Manner seems like a good choice.
 
I don't know if you noticed or not, but it says above the bracket that "there will be a reseeding after the quarterfinals". This means that the bracket is not fixed - the highest seeded round-robin team that advances to the semis will actually play the lowest seeded one. So, if USA doesn't get past their quarter but Finland and ROC do, Finland would be the highest seeded semi team and would avoid ROC in the semi as ROC would get the second seed.

Of course, USA is the favorite against GER/SVK - so ROC is still the most likely semi opponent for Finland. However, if USA, ROC and SWE win but FIN loses to CZE, then ROC and SWE (2nd and 3rd seeds, respectively) would play against each other in the semi.

I did not notice. That makes it very interesting. I thought that the group stage seedings remain because of wikipedia having those lines pointing like "this team goes to this slot", if you know what I mean. It is kind of misleading.

Well that's very good news and fair, so it makes that Sweden win matter more. However Germany or Slovakia would have to beat USA in order to change things. I think that the possibility for an upset (if it's even an upset because we don't know much about those NA teams) is there. If GER or SVK doesn't beat USA, it's the same as before, Sweden and USA in the semis, because I assume Sweden takes out Canada.
 
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Based on Germany being man handled by Slovakia 4-0 today that group A seems to have been the weakest group by far with China, USA and Canada being in it. Germany was the only real measurement of the level of Canada and USA and it seems like Slovakia could beat USA and that would mean a Finland Slovakia semifinal most likely if Finland would beat SUI/CZE winner which seems to be SUI at the moment, unless Denmark upsets ROC/RUS. I mean USA-GER ended 3-1. So in my opinion Sweden takes out Canada easily and Slovakia will give USA a run for their money and maybe beat them.
 
Heh. Now we have two FIN-SUI games scheduled for the same day.

One thing that can't be belittled is the significant rest advantage the direct advancers get - Finland has had nearly three days of rest before tomorrow's puck drop, while Switzerland gets less than a day - after what was a very high-tempo game. If the score is in any way favorable for Finland (lead or even behind but within a striking distance) at the second intermission, the Swiss players' legs won't be doing much work in their favor.

As an aside, it was curious that the first two of today's games were played simultaneously - gives Denmark a slightly better position than the rest of the elimination game advancers.

Although, SVK didn't probably have to drain their tanks empty against GER, and it's safe to say CAN won't have to break much sweat against CHN either. I'm not big on making predictions, but I have this strange gut feeling that USA-SVK will be much closer to a coin toss than some people expect, and that Canada's playstyle will be the worst suited for Sweden out of all the teams in the tournament - I won't say who will win, but I completely disagree that it will be an easy ticket through for Tre Kronor.
 
The Swiss will be very confident tommorrow due to victory over Czechs. I hope they are out of gas though and won't play that well again. Might be wrong, anything can happen. One thing is a certainty, if Finland lose it will a national tragedy.
 
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Heh. Now we have two FIN-SUI games scheduled for the same day.

One thing that can't be belittled is the significant rest advantage the direct advancers get - Finland has had nearly three days of rest before tomorrow's puck drop, while Switzerland gets less than a day - after what was a very high-tempo game. If the score is in any way favorable for Finland (lead or even behind but within a striking distance) at the second intermission, the Swiss players' legs won't be doing much work in their favor.

As an aside, it was curious that the first two of today's games were played simultaneously - gives Denmark a slightly better position than the rest of the elimination game advancers.

Although, SVK didn't probably have to drain their tanks empty against GER, and it's safe to say CAN won't have to break much sweat against CHN either. I'm not big on making predictions, but I have this strange gut feeling that USA-SVK will be much closer to a coin toss than some people expect, and that Canada's playstyle will be the worst suited for Sweden out of all the teams in the tournament - I won't say who will win, but I completely disagree that it will be an easy ticket through for Tre Kronor.

Finland has to push the pace and Swiss legs go out in the 3rd I agree, but have to push the pace. Finland has the hardest opponent coming from the extra round. I'd rather take Canada than Switzerland.

Many ppl are overlooking Denmark and they have a legit shot at upsetting ROC/RUS, based on the results of this tournament. They are the dark horse like Germany was in the previous Olympics. Denmark has to have a good day and ROC/RUS must not have their best day.

In my opinion Sweden beats Canada 4-2, 4-1, 5-2 or something like that. It's won't be a battle for the ages.

I give slight advantage for SVK beating USA, because the teams in group A don't look so good anymore based on the results of the tournament. I think that SVK & USA is the closest and most even pair of the QF round.
 
I trust jalonen 100 percent so I will be on board with whatever lines he selects.

I would like however to go back to the Slovakia lines. Altonen/Nattinen looked far more dangerous with ojamaki

Antilla lack of speed makes the bjorninen line look a bit disconnected and they haven't looked as good as first game..

I'd like another look at

Granlund Manninen Hartikanen
Pesonen Filppula Pakarinen
Aaltonen Nattinen Ojamaki
Maenalanen Bjorninen Komarov
 
I confess something. I've rarely felt as little agitation before the game of death as I do now. Not really because I think we've got this 100% - anything can happen. But because I'm 100% in a "gold or bust" mode - this is the time to grab our first OG title, and I know I'll be royally disappointed if that doesn't come to be, no matter whether our team bows out at 2nd or 5th. So if they are to stumble, it doesn't really matter whether they'll do it at hurdle 1 or 3.

With most tournaments, especially best-on-bests, I consider any medal a commendable achievement. But now? I want that gold. And taking it means toppling at least one, likely two pretty good teams - so again, it doesn't really matter at what steps you end up facing them.
 
For me it wouldn't feel like a real Olympic gold even if Finland would win it, but winning that gold now would still top the 2006 Torino silver, as did all the WHC golds. I don't know, I just got mixed feelings about it. I don't consider ROC's 2018 Korea win a legit Olympic gold either, not because they weren't representing a country. We know that they are Russia, but it just wasn't best on best tournament and they didn't even look good/strong while they won that tournament. For that poor performance it feels as though there was no winner in that tournament. There was just one moral winner which was Germany. Germany showed some Olympic miracle spirit with their performance back then.

On another subject. I normally don't bet money for sport results but this time I had to put few bets for Slovakia's win or tie and Denmark's win or tie. Those have some pretty good odds and in Slovakia's case it wouldn't be an upset if they pulled one of those results off. Denmark has pulled off some very good results each time they have been an underdog and they are underdog again against RUS, which was 1-0 game almost the entire game. Against Latvia when Denmark might have been the favorite it seemed harder.
 
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For me it wouldn't feel like a real Olympic gold even if Finland would win it, but winning that gold now would still top the 2006 Torino silver, as did all the WHC golds. I don't know, I just got mixed feelings about it.

I normally don't bet money for sport results but this time I had to put few bets for Slovakia's win or tie and Denmark's win or tie. Those have some pretty good odds and in Slovakia's case it wouldn't be an upset if they pulled one of those results off.
It's obviously not the same as winning in 2006 would have been. But it would definitely be sweeter than any tournament that did not end in a gold medal.
 
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