Olympics: Team Canada 2022 (Part 2)

[chaser17]

Mangiapane is just a blast. To all B and C Team Canada players out there ---- see what playing in a World Championship can do for you. Take note! pay attention...and if you're a young NHLer with A Team aspirations and some free time to play a few games in Europe in the merry month of May, answer your damn phone when Hockey Canada calls.

This is the exact reason why i think Kuemper will be on the team as the 3rd string if nothing else.

 

[centipede2233]

This is the exact reason why i think Kuemper will be on the team as the 3rd string if nothing else.

Yeah, I think if kuemper is playing well he should be one of the 3 goalies. It’s likely price, binnington and kuemper. If price is a no go, sub in hart

 

[LuGBuG]

Getzlaf will not be on this team Canada.

For the record I didn't say he would be or expect him to be. Just saying if he is out producing most of the players and has already won twice you gotta think he would be brought up in conversation.

 

[centipede2233]

For the record I didn't say he would be or expect him to be. Just saying if he is out producing most of the players and has already won twice you gotta think he would be brought up in conversation.

I know. I was just saying I don’t see getzlaf making it. Centers are kind of spoken for. Also Canada will have plenty of playmakers, Canada will need goal scoring wingers which is why I think Dubois is a better fit.

 

[CornKicker]

Yeah, I think if kuemper is playing well he should be one of the 3 goalies. It’s likely price, binnington and kuemper. If price is a no go, sub in hart

disgree if price is healthy it will be price, MAF and whomever the canadian brass think the next in line will be Binnington (i doubt because he can get mentally rattled and lose his composure), Hart (my pick who i think they take)

 

[centipede2233]

disgree if price is healthy it will be price, MAF and whomever the canadian brass think the next in line will be Binnington (i doubt because he can get mentally rattled and lose his composure), Hart (my pick who i think they take)

Do you really think Doug Armstrong isn’t going to take binnington? Because I have news for you, he sure is, 10000%.

 

[snowkiddin]

I don’t see any chance Mangiapiane sniffs this team unless a bunch of guys go down with injury over the next couple of months

 

[ole ole]

disgree if price is healthy it will be price, MAF and whomever the canadian brass think the next in line will be Binnington (i doubt because he can get mentally rattled and lose his composure), Hart (my pick who i think they take)

Team Canada general manager Doug Armstrong of the St. Louis Blues stunned Canadian hockey fans today by announcing that Montreal Canadiens goaltender Carey Price will be Canada's starting goaltender at the upcoming 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing, China.

Read the rest here.

Report: Price will be Canada's starter at the Olympics despite not playing this season at all

 

[HFpapi]

I’m almost sure he’s too far gone from the picture at this point, but is there anything Taylor Hall can do between now and naming of the team to get back on Team Canada’s radar?

His speed, North-South style, and being one of Canada’s few high-level natural LW’ers, I used to think he’d be a perfect fit on the wing of a McDavid or MacKinnon.

Perhaps Mangiapane could be that natural LW, but I have a hard time seeing the historically conservative TC brass bringing a 25 year old with a career high of 32 points because of a hot start.

 

[centipede2233]

I’m almost sure he’s too far gone from the picture at this point, but is there anything Taylor Hall can do between now and naming of the team to get back on Team Canada’s radar?

His speed, North-South style, and being one of Canada’s few high-level natural LW’ers, I used to think he’d be a perfect fit on the wing of a McDavid or MacKinnon.

Perhaps Mangiapane could be that natural LW, but I have a hard time seeing the historically conservative TC brass bringing a 25 year old with a career high of 32 points because of a hot start.

With mangiapane, it just isn’t a hot start, it’s a hot start after being named tournament mvp at the worlds winning gold. Team Canada execs. Don’t tend to forget these recent accomplishments. Should that mvp alone get him onto a team Canada best on best? No. But in conjunction with his start, if he can consistently score, he will have a great chance.

 

[JackSlater]

Team Canada general manager Doug Armstrong of the St. Louis Blues stunned Canadian hockey fans today by announcing that Montreal Canadiens goaltender Carey Price will be Canada's starting goaltender at the upcoming 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing, China.

Read the rest here.

Report: Price will be Canada's starter at the Olympics despite not playing this season at all

I don't think that that story is giving an accurate impression. This is the interview it is sort of referencing and the key point is Armstrong saying that Price will be the starter if he comes back and is playing well:

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/...canada-men-doug-armstrong-interview-1.6256512

 

[Mathieukferland]

Few things

1. Toews and Makar need to be playing together

2. Chabot played 31 mins last night; he was relatively error-free, I wonder if in smaller doses he could have more to offer

3. Nazem Kadri is fourth in the league in points(lol)

4. If the timeline with Point turns out to be 8-10 weeks as his been suggested, that’s a major bullet dodged, back just in time

 

[johnsic]

My team Canada:

 

[QJL]

Locks:

Connor McDavid
Sidney Crosby
Nathan MacKinnon
Patrice Bergeron
Brad Marchand
Mark Stone
Brayden Point

Near Locks:

Jonathan Huberdeau
Ryan O’Reilly

Bubble (I’d take those above the line)

Matthew Barzal
Andrew Mangiapane
Mark Scheifele
Sean Couturier
Mitch Marner
…..
Pierre-Luc Dubois
Tom Wilson
Steven Stamkos

No Chance:

Nazem Kadri
Zach Hyman
John Tavares
Drake Batherson
Jordan Kyrou
Claude Giroux
Robert Thomas

Point - McDavid - MacKinnon
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Huberdeau - Barzal - Stone
Couturier - O’Reilly - Scheifele
Marner
Mangiapane

 

[CornKicker]

Do you really think Doug Armstrong isn’t going to take binnington? Because I have news for you, he sure is, 10000%.

unless binnington is playing lights out i disagree, armstrong isnt the only one making decision homie

 

[centipede2233]

unless binnington is playing lights out i disagree, armstrong isnt the only one making decision homie

We will see

 

[J bo Jeans]

Watched an Avs game for the first time in a while. Makar and Toews both deserve to be on this team.

 

[CornKicker]

We will see

well we can both flag this and if im wrong you can rub it in my face LOL

for the record im not saying Binnington doesnt deserve to be there im just saying the 3rd goalie will be the projected starter come 2026 and i think it will be Hart

 

[Gold Standard]

well we can both flag this and if im wrong you can rub it in my face LOL

for the record im not saying Binnington doesnt deserve to be there im just saying the 3rd goalie will be the projected starter come 2026 and i think it will be Hart

When has that ever been a Hockey Canada philosophy in selecting 3 goalies for a NHL Team Canada Olympic team?

 

[Mathieukferland]

When has that ever been a Hockey Canada philosophy in selecting 3 goalies for a NHL Team Canada Olympic team?

Have you seen what Mike Smith has gone on to accomplish post 2014? Absolute legend

 

[centipede2233]

well we can both flag this and if im wrong you can rub it in my face LOL

for the record im not saying Binnington doesnt deserve to be there im just saying the 3rd goalie will be the projected starter come 2026 and i think it will be Hart

I think it’s price, hart and binnington , fleury is the odd man out. Kuemper replaces price if he can’t go for whatever reason. But people have different opinions and that will happen

 

[86Habs]

Point out 8-10 weeks is bad news for him, and bad news for Team Canada. 10 weeks puts him right at the end of January, a week or so before the start of the Olympics. All things being equal Point is most likely a lock, so it probably makes sense for Armstrong to name him to the team in late December and also have a replacement in mind in the event that he's not healthy in time. Doesn't leave much time for Point to return to the ice and get back into game shape, though (if best case is 8 weeks, that's mid-January, so a week or so of NHL action).

Dubois stepping up his game this season really benefits the forward group. I think Armstrong is looking to build a forward group with size and physicality, and scoring ability at the wing position, in the mold of our successful 2010 and 2014 teams. If Dubois maintains this level of play he certainly has a very strong chance of making the team, not to mention his pedigree (high draft pick, good World Junior showing, good World Championships performances).

Personally I'd have no issue with Mangiapane on the team. He'd be a likely depth scoring winger that can play bottom six minutes. I'm not sure if I'd want him playing top-6 minutes with McDavid or MacKinnon, but he'd be fine in a depth role.

I wouldn't have Scheifele on the team at this point. He really hasn't done enough I don't think. If Point ends up missing the tournament he's probably on the short list to replace him, but without an injury or two (or if he ups his play) I don't see what he really adds over someone like O'Reilly or Couturier (for a 4th line center role), Stone (versatile 2-way RW), or Point/Stamkos (scoring RW).

 

[Tutu to]

Do you guys think Dubois can maintain his current play on the wing?

 

[Mathieukferland]

Do you guys think Dubois can maintain his current play on the wing?

Seeing him play wing in the playoffs last year I was thoroughly unimpressed

 

[JackSlater]

Point out 8-10 weeks is bad news for him, and bad news for Team Canada. 10 weeks puts him right at the end of January, a week or so before the start of the Olympics. All things being equal Point is most likely a lock, so it probably makes sense for Armstrong to name him to the team in late December and also have a replacement in mind in the event that he's not healthy in time. Doesn't leave much time for Point to return to the ice and get back into game shape, though (if best case is 8 weeks, that's mid-January, so a week or so of NHL action).

Dubois stepping up his game this season really benefits the forward group. I think Armstrong is looking to build a forward group with size and physicality, and scoring ability at the wing position, in the mold of our successful 2010 and 2014 teams. If Dubois maintains this level of play he certainly has a very strong chance of making the team, not to mention his pedigree (high draft pick, good World Junior showing, good World Championships performances).

Personally I'd have no issue with Mangiapane on the team. He'd be a likely depth scoring winger that can play bottom six minutes. I'm not sure if I'd want him playing top-6 minutes with McDavid or MacKinnon, but he'd be fine in a depth role.

I wouldn't have Scheifele on the team at this point. He really hasn't done enough I don't think. If Point ends up missing the tournament he's probably on the short list to replace him, but without an injury or two (or if he ups his play) I don't see what he really adds over someone like O'Reilly or Couturier (for a 4th line center role), Stone (versatile 2-way RW), or Point/Stamkos (scoring RW).

The theoretical timing of Point's return is awkward. If he's projected to return in time then I would guess that he's selected, but if he returns and his game is off then that is a problem. Now there will be 14 forwards and Canada has good depth so it's not a disaster or anything, but it is awkward.

I'm not sure on Mangiapane really. He should be able to do the things he does in the NHL on pretty much any line and he would be having a strong goal scoring start to the season even with a reasonable shooting percentage, so there are good points in his favour. I'm less concerned about other LW options (Huberdeau, O'Reilly, Marchand, maybe Stamkos or Dubois) scaling up to the best on best level in terms of ability though. We'll see how things look in a month.

Do you guys think Dubois can maintain his current play on the wing?

Sure. Dubois was better on the wing in junior than he was at centre and the things he's been doing this year, in my viewings, would translate fine to the wing.