Team Board Mock Draft Runoff

[Stewie Griffin]

Sennecke is the easy pick here. There's a very strong chance he goes top-10 though.

I wouldn't hate Eiserman, but meh.

Eiserman scores but that's literally it. Granted its the most important thing to do.

Sennecke is big, skates, and has great hands. Also a right shot/RW which we need.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

"late riser" that barely anybody has heard of when late risers rarely become something at the NHL level.

Lmao what? By development curve/trend alone you should take late risers and they show actually signs of progression. Something Eiserman hasn't done all year.

 

[themelkman]

Lmao what? By development curve/trend alone you should take late risers and they show actually signs of progression. Something Eiserman hasn't done all year.

I get the thinking but sometimes a hot streak is just a hot streak. These kids have been scouted for years and years, and I’ll take a bet on someone who’s been good for years rather than a burst for 30 games

 

[Juxtaposer]

I get the thinking but sometimes a hot streak is just a hot streak. These kids have been scouted for years and years, and I’ll take a bet on someone who’s been good for years rather than a burst for 30 games

So you aren’t concerned that Eiserman hasn’t improved almost at all in the last calendar year?

 

[themelkman]

So you aren’t concerned that Eiserman hasn’t improved almost at all in the last calendar year?

Oh yeah I am concerned for sure, there are a lot of guys I would pick first, but I don’t really see any of them left on the list we got to vote on. At 14 I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on a guy who was predicted to be top 5

 

[Gecklund]

So you aren’t concerned that Eiserman hasn’t improved almost at all in the last calendar year?

My question for people who are against Eiserman, what did you expect from him this year? He was over a goal per game again. Yes him putting together a more complete game would have been nice but that’s just not his game and never will be. He’s stuck in a league that’s clearly below his level. Personally I’ll take the elite goal scorer that’s supposedly best friends with our franchise player.

 

[Juxtaposer]

My question for people who are against Eiserman, what did you expect from him this year? He was over a goal per game again. Yes him putting together a more complete game would have been nice but that’s just not his game and never will be. He’s stuck in a league that’s clearly below his level. Personally I’ll take the elite goal scorer that’s supposedly best friends with our franchise player.

I expected him to be the best player on the ice at almost all times. I expected him to drive play at even strength, increase his physical involvement, and generally be good at even strength.

Instead he just doubled down on the things he was already good at: beating junior goaltenders and scoring on the PP. I mean, for the love of god, he only scored 3 more even strength goals than Teddy Stiga this year. He was 8th on the team in assists. Just pure insanity for a guy who was supposed to be a top-5 pick this year.

He was absolutely invisible at even strength in the U18, to the point that it’s like he isn’t even on the ice. His line looked like they were on the PK half the time. He should have had the tournament that Leonard or Perrault had last year, but came up empty.

It’s not just that I don’t like his progression or potential, I just don’t think he’s even all that great of a player at the junior level. I’ll admit that this post is going off the rails a little bit, but I’ve watched Eiserman for two years now and I have never, ever seen it with him. Yes, he can put the puck in the net in juniors. But having a great shot isn’t all that valuable if your team never has the puck because you don’t forecheck well, don’t play defense, have a mediocre transition game, and don’t carry the puck much.

I hope to be wrong on Eiserman, especially if we end up drafting him, but I’m not a believer.

 

[Gecklund]

I expected him to be the best player on the ice at almost all times. I expected him to drive play at even strength, increase his physical involvement, and generally be good at even strength.

Instead he just doubled down on the things he was already good at: beating junior goaltenders and scoring on the PP. I mean, for the love of god, he only scored 3 more even strength goals than Teddy Stiga this year. He was 8th on the team in assists. Just pure insanity for a guy who was supposed to be a top-5 pick this year.

He was absolutely invisible at even strength in the U18, to the point that it’s like he isn’t even on the ice. His line looked like they were on the PK half the time. He should have had the tournament that Leonard or Perrault had last year, but came up empty.

It’s not just that I don’t like his progression or potential, I just don’t think he’s even all that great of a player at the junior level. I’ll admit that this post is going off the rails a little bit, but I’ve watched Eiserman for two years now and I have never, ever seen it with him. Yes, he can put the puck in the net in juniors. But having a great shot isn’t all that valuable if your team never has the puck because you don’t forecheck well, don’t play defense, have a mediocre transition game, and don’t carry the puck much.

I hope to be wrong on Eiserman, especially if we end up drafting him, but I’m not a believer.

Isnt Eiserman one of the younger players in this draft? Born August 2006 (wow I feel old) so I’ll be honest not 100% sure but I think if he was in last years draft (or from early looks of it next years draft too) I wouldn’t like him at 14 but personally I think Sharks need that chance at elite talent and I just don’t see it with Sennecke, MBN or really any of the other realistic options there. Eiserman definitely has the lowest floor of the 3 but I also think he has the highest ceiling.

I really really wish he was in college this year. Obviously not really up to him but I’d love to see him at a different level. You’re right he sort of doubled down on what he was good at. This is yet another one of those that think the interview will be very telling on. Is it a coaching thing, maturity thing, etc.?

Totally get not being a believer and it’s probably major coping on my part because I do believe we end up drafting him if he’s there and if the dmen are not.

 

[GRANdSharks]

My question for people who are against Eiserman, what did you expect from him this year? He was over a goal per game again. Yes him putting together a more complete game would have been nice but that’s just not his game and never will be. He’s stuck in a league that’s clearly below his level. Personally I’ll take the elite goal scorer that’s supposedly best friends with our franchise player.

It's not that eiserman didn't have a good season or would be worthy of a pick in this range I have him 14th on my board. He had an elite goal scoring season, but there are also problems in every other area of the game, and he is also a little to one dimensional with his goal scoring. that put him below other players who seem more projectable to the NHL game and have made more development progress on the rest of their game.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Isnt Eiserman one of the younger players in this draft? Born August 2006 (wow I feel old) so I’ll be honest not 100% sure but I think if he was in last years draft (or from early looks of it next years draft too) I wouldn’t like him at 14 but personally I think Sharks need that chance at elite talent and I just don’t see it with Sennecke, MBN or really any of the other realistic options there. Eiserman definitely has the lowest floor of the 3 but I also think he has the highest ceiling.

I really really wish he was in college this year. Obviously not really up to him but I’d love to see him at a different level. You’re right he sort of doubled down on what he was good at. This is yet another one of those that think the interview will be very telling on. Is it a coaching thing, maturity thing, etc.?

Totally get not being a believer and it’s probably major coping on my part because I do believe we end up drafting him if he’s there and if the dmen are not.

He is one of the younger players, but for me that only really matters if he’s on an actual upward trajectory (like Tij Iginla who improved a crazy amount all season and doesn’t turn 18 until August like Eiserman) or if the player is super physically immature (Eiserman is very physically mature for his age).

I just don’t see crazy high upside in Eiserman, despite the “boom-bust” talk. For me, real boom-bust guys in this draft are like Catton, Parekh, Yakemchuk, and Sennecke. Guys with real dominant star potential, even if they aren’t extremely likely to hit their upsides. Eiserman’s upside, in my opinion, is literally PP specialist.

 

[Gecklund]

He is one of the younger players, but for me that only really matters if he’s on an actual upward trajectory (like Tij Iginla who improved a crazy amount all season and doesn’t turn 18 until August like Eiserman) or if the player is super physically immature (Eiserman is very physically mature for his age).

I just don’t see crazy high upside in Eiserman, despite the “boom-bust” talk. For me, real boom-bust guys in this draft are like Catton, Parekh, Yakemchuk, and Sennecke. Guys with real dominant star potential, even if they aren’t extremely likely to hit their upsides. Eiserman’s upside, in my opinion, is literally PP specialist.

I do agree that Parekh and Catton are boom bust guys. Yakemchuk too but I don’t like him. Think he’s closer to bust then boom.

Feels like one of those where we just disagree on the upside. Eiserman definitely has a lot of work to do to get to that star level but I feel like it’s all stuff that can be worked on with the right coaching staff and attitude on his part. Now with that said he is still in that 13-16 range for me. It’ll be interesting to see how this draft plays out. Feels like a lot of parity throughout the top 20ish.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I do agree that Parekh and Catton are boom bust guys. Yakemchuk too but I don’t like him. Think he’s closer to bust then boom.

Feels like one of those where we just disagree on the upside. Eiserman definitely has a lot of work to do to get to that star level but I feel like it’s all stuff that can be worked on with the right coaching staff and attitude on his part. Now with that said he is still in that 13-16 range for me. It’ll be interesting to see how this draft plays out. Feels like a lot of parity throughout the top 20ish.

I’m cool with agreeing to disagree here. At any rate, Eiserman’s progression over the next few years will be really interesting.

 

[Grinner]

Not to sound like a broken record but, I'd still take MBN over either of Sennecke or Eiserman

 

[Mattb124]

I doubt Esierman falls to 14 but apparently he and Celebrini have played together before

Not only that, but they are best friends.

 

[Baysick]

I can’t vote in the poll being new here, but my vote goes to Eiserman

 

[Alaskanice]

I can’t vote in the poll being new here, but my vote goes to Eiserman

Welcome!

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

Yes but we must not fall into the trap of drafting guys for the sole purpose of us wanting them to fall in love with each other. Remember all the Czechs that we got for Hertl? Marty Kaut who wants nothing to do with the US anymore; Zadina; and countless other Czechs. Hertl doesn't even anything to do with us anymore.

Eh Esierman has been doing his own thing for a while I don’t think that be a problem. That being said I’m pretty sure Grier will trade up to get a defenseman, good ones are much harder to find

 

[Baysick]

Welcome!

Thanks! Been a life long fan, back around 92/93 I remember being a young kid and seeing those OG teal jerseys on my aunt and uncles blurry analog tv, and I’ve been hooked ever since!

Honestly at pick 14 I’m not gonna be super picky. Obviously if one of the big 6 defensemen falls we’re sprinting to the podium and taking them, but most likely that won’t happen though unless we catch some luck like we did with Musty last year. There’s always a few prospects who get drafted lower or higher on draft day than where the consensus had them projected to go.

Eiserman would be my number one choice just because of the elite potential/ceiling he has. I like MBN a lot too, he’s the type of guy you want on your team especially in the playoffs, and he has a shot to boot. I’d also be ok with Sennecke, and Jiricek as long as the knee checks out. I’ve been watching film on Solberg and I’d be fine with him too.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Re: Eiserman. As good of a goal scorer he is...he's not Ovechkin...he's not Matthews...he's more of a Patrick Laine. Still great at scoring goals, but that's it.

Looking at teams left in the playoffs, do any of them have an Eiserman type? I think Grier has done a good job looking at recent winning/contending teams in how they are built. They surround their elite scorers with big, two-way/defensive guys. We have Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, etc. to be our scorers. We need guys like Sennecke/MBN/Helenius, etc to round them out. Sennecke is more offensive than the other two, but that's also why he probably won't even be around by 14. Guy is a gamer.

 

[bigsjfan]

I think Eiserman could really help maximize the effectiveness of Celebrini. Especially if you can put a Musty on the other wing. He will either draw attention due to his dangerous shot leaving more room for Celebrini and Musty to work or they double team Celebrini leaving Esierman open to score. Musty and Celebrini will be able to cover defensive laps and Musty can do the forecheck and board battles.

 

[Gecklund]

Not to sound like a broken record but, I'd still take MBN over either of Sennecke or Eiserman

He’s gone in this mock draft. Otherwise I think you’d see a lot of votes for him.

 

[Grinner]

He’s gone in this mock draft. Otherwise I think you’d see a lot of votes for him.

Oh, I realize that. And I'm sure he would.
I doubt that he'd win a Sharks board voted mock
I was just saying in the advent all 3 or either one or another was available in the actual NHL draft. I'd still go with MBN.

 

[Gecklund]

Oh, I realize that. And I'm sure he would.
I doubt that he'd win a Sharks board voted mock
I was just saying in the advent all 3 or either one or another was available in the actual NHL draft. I'd still go with MBN.

Question for you because I know you’re very high on MBN, if you had the choice of him or say Yakemchuk/Parekh where would you go?

 

[Grinner]

Question for you because I know you’re very high on MBN, if you had the choice of him or say Yakemchuk/Parekh where would you go?

That's a tough one. It's no secret I like bigger tougher players. I have concerns about the mental aspect of Yaks game. And I've read Parekh has personality issues. That he rubs people the wrong way. Both seem to have defensive issues. Push comes to shove I'd probably go with Yakemchuck. I think he'd bring more match up problems for the opposition.

 

[Hodge]

My question would be, does Eiserman have any value outside of ripping one tees from the right faceoff circle on the power play?

Because if not then we shouldn't even draft him in the 2nd round because that's Macklin's office for the next 15 years.