Confirmed with Link: [TBL/UTA] Lightning trade Mikhail Sergachev for Conor Geekie, J.J. Moser, 2025 2nd, 2024 7th

[RussianGuyovich]

Someone check if @RussianGuyovich is alright

Oh wow the guy with bad player opinions has bad poster opinions, too. Here is my shocked face.

 

[Outl4w]

Seems to be a great trade for all involved. Sergachev will get to be a number one and play powerplay line1. Lightning got out of a 8.75 million cap hit for 8 years, got a serviceable young defenseman at 2 million who can be rfa and bridged at end of season, 11 pick from last year 6 foot 3 center, and a 2nd round pick.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[DFC]

You must have someone specific in mind, because that's a haul IMO.

Everyone I'm seeing who's familiar with Moser says he is being undervalued by the hockey media at large. Feels like our left side will be a lot more balanced. McD might decline, but at least we aren't sinking almost 1/3 of the cap into one position.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Everyone I'm seeing who's familiar with Moser says he is being undervalued by the hockey media at large. Feels like our left side will be a lot more balanced. McD might decline, but at least we aren't sinking almost 1/3 of the cap into one position.

Yep. Moser should be a good middle pair D, and at worst would be one of the best 3rd pair D in the league.

Really excited to see what Geekie does in Syracuse or even Tampa this year coming out of junior. I felt he was mildly overrated in the Dub, but his player type is the one you win with in the playoffs.

 

[Rschmitz]

Still a little shocked this got done.

Moser is exactly what we needed in a 3/4 defender who isn't going to get much PP time. He's good for ~30 5v5 points and is going to give you mistake-ish free defense. Sergachev was always an out of place luxury with Hedman on the team.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Thinking about it more, Geekie provides an insurance safety net in our prospect pool if Howard doesn't become a consistent NHLer. Geekie will at worst be a solid Swiss Army knife who can play up and down your lineup, contributing physically with his big body presence, likely settling in on a 3rd line. Reminiscent of the type of player that Ducks have loved dating back to their 2007 Cup team.

 

[Stammertime91]

Just saw the tweet that said in light of these trades, Brisebois did not up the offer for Stamkos.

Lol. Wut.

 

[Rschmitz]

 

[Sky04]

Oh wow the guy with bad player opinions has bad poster opinions, too. Here is my shocked face.

Utah has a new fan.

Still a little shocked this got done.

Moser is exactly what we needed in a 3/4 defender who isn't going to get much PP time. He's good for ~30 5v5 points and is going to give you mistake-ish free defense. Sergachev was always an out of place luxury with Hedman on the team.

Somehow half this board didn't realize that.

 

[DFC]

Thinking about it more, Geekie provides an insurance safety net in our prospect pool if Howard doesn't become a consistent NHLer. Geekie will at worst be a solid Swiss Army knife who can play up and down your lineup, contributing physically with his big body presence, likely settling in on a 3rd line. Reminiscent of the type of player that Ducks have loved dating back to their 2007 Cup team.

He was an 11th overall pick who, yeah, probably became a man among boys in the W. Still, I feel like he's immediately the best prospect in our pool.

 

[DFC]

Yeah, this is what I mean. Seems like guys are high on Moser.

No way Sergachev is a top 20 defenseman in the league though.

But with #1PP time, he will probably hit 50 points.

 

[Rschmitz]

Yeah, this is what I mean. Seems like guys are high on Moser.

No way Sergachev is a top 20 defenseman in the league though.

But with #1PP time, he will probably hit 50 points.

Seems like most fans just look at point totals, they don’t understand the main point of being a defenseman. Sergachev is certainly capable of putting up a ppg with top pp time though, makes sense why we traded him and Utah wanted him

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Yeah, this is what I mean. Seems like guys are high on Moser.

No way Sergachev is a top 20 defenseman in the league though.

But with #1PP time, he will probably hit 50 points.

Because the Lightning are a Sun Belt team, most people don't watch them on a consistent basis during the regular season, so they just regurgitate the narratives from 3-4 years ago. Almost every non-Lightning fan on Twitter thinks Sergachev is incredible, so they obviously didn't watch his piss poor 2023-24 prior to the injury. Passing the puck to nowhere, just braindead decision making in the defensive zone.

He's a good offensive number 3 or 4, but plays like a number 5 or 6 in his own zone. He'll frustrate fans in Utah quite a bit IMHO

 

[Todd1a]

Just saw the tweet that said in light of these trades, Brisebois did not up the offer for Stamkos.

Lol. Wut.

I think JBB has a hand shake deal done with the agent of Jake Guentzel is why

Would not surprise me probably 7 year term 8 AAV

 

[DFC]

Because the Lightning are a Sun Belt team, most people don't watch them on a consistent basis during the regular season, so they just regurgitate the narratives from 3-4 years ago. Almost every non-Lightning fan on Twitter thinks Sergachev is incredible, so they obviously didn't watch his piss poor 2023-24 prior to the injury. Passing the puck to nowhere, just braindead decision making in the defensive zone.

He's a good offensive number 3 or 4, but plays like a number 5 or 6 in his own zone. He'll frustrate fans in Utah quite a bit IMHO

Yeah, I never saw #1 potential in Sergachev. Maybe a low-end #1, but he just doesn't seem to have the awareness necessary to be "the guy" back there. Always thought he would top out at a #2, and right now I would say if he's a good #3.

I think JBB has a hand shake deal done with the agent of Jake Guentzel is why

Would not surprise me probably 7 year term 8 AAV

It kind of does reek of some kind of tampering. Not sure what the deal will be, but I hope we're not going to 9. It was reported that Carolina offered 8x8.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Yeah, I never saw #1 potential in Sergachev. Maybe a low-end #1, but he just doesn't seem to have the awareness necessary to be "the guy" back there. Always thought he would top out at a #2, and right now I would say if he's a good #3.

I stopped believing in his potential in 2021. He wasn't anything special in the 2nd of the back to back Cups, where McDonagh was absolutely elite. And his 2021-22 was a generally a mixed bag, which is why so many pondered the possibility of trading him at the 2022 Draft for a HAUL instead of a bloated extension.

 

[DFC]

I stopped believing in his potential in 2021. He wasn't anything special in the 2nd of the back to back Cups, where McDonagh was absolutely elite. And his 2021-22 was a generally a mixed bag, which is why so many pondered the possibility of trading him at the 2022 Draft for a HAUL instead of a bloated extension.

Yeah, I mean, we paid him for potential, which is a thing we hadn't done before. Then in 22/23 he wound up on PP1 long enough to hit 60 points, but somehow it still didn't feel like a "great" season, and Hedman had reclaimed the throne by year's end.

To me he wasn't drastically overpaid. He's just drastically overpaid for a guy who's primarily an offensive D, and blocked from putting up big numbers (by Hedman). So what were we paying for? When we brought McDonagh back, suddenly that question got even worse.

I'm happy JBB wasn't serious about keeping all three of them. Now I'm hoping he's equally not serious about letting Stamkos walk for a tiny slice of cap.

 

[Bozo Nicholson]

I think JBB has a hand shake deal done with the agent of Jake Guentzel is why

Would not surprise me probably 7 year term 8 AAV

Please don’t get my hopes up, Todd.

 

[Zwui21]

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

That’s cause everyone realizes Sergy has always been sheltered by either Mac or Heddy.

I love Sergy but his defense makes you want to choke the life out of him at times.

 

[olli]

Moser was very solid in the Coyotes games I watched last year. Played pretty well as a top 4 guy on a bad team. He’s still 24 so theres probably room for more growth especially considering he seems to have been drafted 2 years late as a 2nd rounder. So he probably made lots of strides to go from being passed up on for 2 drafts to being a 2nd rounder. I’m speculating but the point is he could potentially be a legit top 4 guy as Mcd slows down or if there’s injuries.

 

[Felonious Python]

Strangely, the quote is not about the Lightning.

 

[SaucerpassfromKuch]

Good trade by JBB, hopefully he can sign Moser to team friendly bridge contract. Geekie should start the season in Crunch, but he could get some looks in NHL during the season.

 

[Felonious Python]

That’s cause everyone realizes Sergy has always been sheltered by either Mac or Heddy.

I love Sergy but his defense makes you want to choke the life out of him at times.

I don't think that had been entirely priced in yet, so a good time to sell.