Proposal: Tb - van
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December 5th
Without getting into the emotional value of the Sedins, 7 million retained for two years is too much for Drouin. Yeah yeah third overall pick, Canucks management wants to compete, and trading our two franchise scorers wouldn't be tolerated.
That being said, what's the deal with Flip?
Two 36-year olds, only one of whom would be a first liner on our team, with only one more year left on their contracts for a 21-year old elite young player who hasn't even hit his peak yet and who has another five years of team control remaining. Quote frankly it's insulting that you think any Lightning fan is dumb enough to believe that this is somehow a bad deal for your side.
Our top 6 is strong enough already while Filppula and Callahan give us a strong 3rd line. No need to give up a key piece of our future to win now when our core is relatively young. If the Sedins will waive SJ or NY would be better options as they're more likely to be desperate to win in the next two years.
I recognize that the OP tried to take into account the needs of the other team in the proposal, but it's just too weird/crazy of a trade. I'd rather just hold on to Drouin and deal with whatever comes with that.
Skippy73
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Vancouver is already committed to competing this year (yes probably for ownerships sake) so I can't imagine any scenario where they trade they're franchise players
WTG
December 5th
2 first liners @ 7 million should net you more then one good prospect.
Look, I understand that this really doesn't make a lick of sense for Tampa. But value wise this isn't a very good trade for the canucks. I'd rather keep the sedins for their leadership value and their ability to shelter younger players.
This isn't a very good trade for either team.
Nac Mac Feegle
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How can Vancouver handle all that cap? Sedins for 3.5 a year is a steal for Tampa. If that trade comes up they should take it and run. I know that Drouin is very valuable for all Tampa fans but the Sedins would create a second first line for Tampa.
Can't see why Vancouver does it though. The only thing they get that has some value is Drouin.
Can't see why Vancouver does it though. The only thing they get that has some value is Drouin.
We have Drouin - Stamkos on one line and Johnson - Kucherov on another, we already have two 1st lines. To upgrade Filppula and Callahan into the Sedins isn't worth Drouin.
Jacko95
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GOing by the playoffs and his start of the season, it is very likely that Drouin will be at least on par with the Sedins playing wise. So we trade a 21 year old 1st liner for 2 36 year old first liner, while we already have 5 first liners on the team. There is no real worth in this trade for Tampa as they have more than enough fire power.
If we seriously want to talk about Droun, we instantly talk about Tanev as well
CupsOverCash
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Todd1a
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this trade idea is horrible tampa's biggest issue is they need the second pair defenseman upgrade from garrison and coburn.
HasbeenHallzy
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It is very likely Drouin wins a Hart and Art Ross, and scores 1000Pts?
News to me...
Number1RedWingsFan52
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No thanks Tampa has zero need for the aging Sedins doubt that either Callahan or Filppula would waive for Vancouver any ways and Yzerman isn't dealing Drouin no thanks Tampa is doing just fine don't need the Sedin's period.
Hictor Vedman*
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Totally unrealistic, and awful for the Canucks:
-7mill retained on the Sedins for multiple years.
-10.8mill incoming for multiple years for 2 overpaid bottom-6 players.
-Having to re-sign Drouin for 5+mill after the season.
Brings the grand total to 19mill this year, and 23+mill next year, and 11+mill in the two following years to acquire Jonathan Drouin, while giving up the best 2 players in the deal. Yes, the Sedins are 36, but they'll be productive til they're 40 (which means 4 years x 2 players = 8 man years).
I also agree that the Lightning could use a d-man coming back instead of more offensive firepower, so it doesn't exactly fit a need for them either. Bottom line is, the Canucks aren't paying 64mill in salary the next 4 years to acquire Jonathan Drouin: I'm not sure any player would be worth that aside from McDavid
-7mill retained on the Sedins for multiple years.
-10.8mill incoming for multiple years for 2 overpaid bottom-6 players.
-Having to re-sign Drouin for 5+mill after the season.
Brings the grand total to 19mill this year, and 23+mill next year, and 11+mill in the two following years to acquire Jonathan Drouin, while giving up the best 2 players in the deal. Yes, the Sedins are 36, but they'll be productive til they're 40 (which means 4 years x 2 players = 8 man years).
I also agree that the Lightning could use a d-man coming back instead of more offensive firepower, so it doesn't exactly fit a need for them either. Bottom line is, the Canucks aren't paying 64mill in salary the next 4 years to acquire Jonathan Drouin: I'm not sure any player would be worth that aside from McDavid
Toss in a 1st and you got yourself a deal....
Why Tampa does this? Because the Sedins are still very useful players and would set Stamkos up for 50 goals.
Putting out a line of Sedins with Stamkos after Kucherov/Johnsons line scores would give opposing coaches fits all night
CupsOverCash
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No this deal is awful for TB. They lose Drouin who is an amazing younger player who can help Stamkos get back to 50.
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