DJB
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Is Hall willing to play for Monopoly money only?
If not Sens are out
If not Sens are out
Value of: Taylor Hall Auction
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SteveCangialosi123
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I cannot imagine New Jersey will in anyway hang on to Hall past the dealine. Aside from him being injured for the season, that is.
And I say that as a fan of a division rival who would benefit from them losing Hall for nothing.
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Anyone calling Hall a cancer is an idiot. Guy has been a top 5 LW for almost his entire career and hasn't been given a situation to succeed once. He's called a "cancer" because he wants to f***ing win and doesn't like when teammates don't care as much as he does. If he goes to a winning team with a developed locker room he will be noted for his leadership. The only knock Taylor will ever have to me is his health, he is injury prone, but when he is locked in he's a Top 10 player in the league as seen by his MVP season.
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If what Friedman said is true and Hall doesn't want to commit to a new contract with a new team then look at what Karlsson got in a similar situation.
Jason MacIsaac
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No he doesn't, especially if he isn't driving play like he did two/three years ago.
JoemAvs
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Well if that is the type of contract he is looking for, it kills basically each and every ounce of interest I would have in trading for him from an Avs POV. That contract would cripple us down the road and is not worth it.
If he is not willing to settle for 6 x sub-10M, the Avs and most teams that want to contend should probably pass on him...
Which makes this trade even more complicated.
If thats the deal he is looking for, he will probably go for a pure rental return at the deadline and go to a non-contender that has oodles of capspace on July 1st..
Not sure how that line up with him "wanting to win" though...
Jason MacIsaac
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Hall makes half a million less than Karlsson and NJ owners will take a contract back to essentially increase the market to anyone. I think he can get a better deal than Karlsson got for Ottawa.
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You're forgetting that EK's value at the time of the trade was greater than Hall's now. Significantly.
Jason MacIsaac
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An example of a Montreal package would be:
Nick Suzuki, Ryan Poehling, 1st, 2nd with conditional picks.
Nick Suzuki, Ryan Poehling, 1st, 2nd with conditional picks.
Jason MacIsaac
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Not by much, the 500 000 difference in salary a year later makes it around the same IMO.
JoemAvs
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Salary at the deadline is almost irrelevant for many teams. That 500k certainly is. A team would only have to have around 2M in space to start the season to absorb Hall without problems at the deadline.
EK also want before the start of the season which makes him more valuable..
Realistically Hall will and should fetch less than EK.
Karlsson was traded earlier, is arguably the better player at the time of the trade and plays a significantly more valuable position..
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EK was "definitely" the better player at the time of the trade. He was a 2-time Norris winner and had a superb playoff run a couple of years earlier. One of the most dominant defenseman of the last decade, still in his prime. Hall is a tier below.
Jost, 1st, Kaut, and some spare change players/picks is probably where the Avs would have to start around the deadline if they are healthy and looking like contenders.
JoemAvs
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Realistically only if they are allowed to talk extension as part of the deal and get positive signals.
Otherwise for a pure rental that is a bit excessive...
But I might be higher on Jost (after being lower on him as a prospect than most Avs fans ironically) than most so..
pretty much this entire post is false.
Andrew Ference goes nuclear, rips terrible practice habits, party atmosphere of 2013-15 Edmonton Oilers
he states how Taylor Halls talk is cheap. It doesn’t mean a goddamn thing. His actions show way different than his words. He is not a guy you spend huge money on.
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Jason MacIsaac
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It is roughly what Karlsson got. I think you will be surprised what he will fetch, it will be closer to Karlsson than Kovalchuk.
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no, no it is not.
Suzuki and Poehling alone are worth more than what SJ got....not to mention a 1st and 2nd
There is no shot that Hall returns that much. NONE.
To those valuing him as less than EK, it should be noted that a players attitude can affect his value as well. It was a lot less likely that EK would resign given the friction between him and the room. EK was insulted by his offer and had public issues with other players and/or their spouses that soured him the city. Hall saying he’ll “listen” but hoping to win is a less pressing situation. I think he should at the very least get a comparable return.
As per the Boston whispers, I don’t think he fits the Boston mold. That doesn’t mean he’s not valuable, players like Kessel and Seguin certainly went on to flourish after leaving the Bruins despite not fitting that mold. He just doesn’t strike me as a target.
As per the Boston whispers, I don’t think he fits the Boston mold. That doesn’t mean he’s not valuable, players like Kessel and Seguin certainly went on to flourish after leaving the Bruins despite not fitting that mold. He just doesn’t strike me as a target.
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Cont. without supporting.
And any team foolish enough to pay him that deserves what's coming to them in the future.
Here is an important difference that some are failing to grasp regarding a potential Hall trade at the deadline versus the recent Karlsson and Pacioretty trades. Karlsson and Pacioretty were traded in the summer prior to their the last season before UFA status. Vegas and San Jose were acquiring with the idea that they would receive a full season of their services along with a potential playoff run, which is significantly more player service that Hall will offer a team if traded at the deadline. It is a critical distinction. If Hall is traded in the next couple of months, maybe his value is above a true deadline acquisition, otherwise we are left with deadline transactions from the last several years as examples of trade return value.
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