BackhandToedrag
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High price for sure and it wouldn't be my starting offer but I think it will be a bidding war for hallTerrible overpayment.
High price for sure and it wouldn't be my starting offer but I think it will be a bidding war for hallTerrible overpayment.
High price for sure and it wouldn't be my starting offer but I think it will be a bidding war for hall
You can use that as a good baseline yes .That's 3 first rounders and our best RDH prospect. It would never happen, not even close.
Go look at what Duchene and Karlsson returned as rentals and it will be somewhere in the middle of that.
What would you want from Montreal? Would a good 20 year old player like Suzuki be enough?
Avs fans are very divided on the Zadorov front. Personally, I don’t want to trade him, not yet at least as we’ve got no replacement for him and it’d create a bigger hole than the one we’d be plugging with Hall.As a Devils fan I’m hoping for something like Zadorov type D , a goalie /goalie prospect / pick or winger prospect .
I know Zadorov Kaut Newhook is too much but can the Devils add to make it work ??
If we had a good replacement for Palmieri I’d say yes . However losing Hall plus him would hurt big time for depth . We’d have to more Zacha to wing and he would be our “best” winger ... Bratt Boqvist Gusev Simmonds Coleman Wood .... ya it would be scaryAvs fans are very divided on the Zadorov front. Personally, I don’t want to trade him, not yet at least as we’ve got no replacement for him and it’d create a bigger hole than the one we’d be plugging with Hall.
With that said, to answer your question, the Avs would (obviously) want Palmieri or a Dman to replace Z on this deal to get Newhook too. I assume that Palmieri probably tips the scales too much, so the Avs would likely include Jost too. Still not sure about it from the Avs perspective though and I’m sure devils fans will say the same from yours.
I think once you trade Hall you’ve gotta commit to the rebuild, but it will be be a quick one with what you have already. You’re better off being as bad as possible and getting as high a pick a possible while you can. Trade Palmieri (with or in separate deal from Hall) and get max value in futures. All he can do is mess up your draft position and you’ll be wasting a team friendly prime contract.If we had a good replacement for Palmieri I’d say yes . However losing Hall plus him would hurt big time for depth . We’d have to more Zacha to wing and he would be our “best” winger ... Bratt Gusev Simmonds Coleman Wood .... ya it would be scary
What would you want from Montreal? Would a good 20 year old player like Suzuki be enough?
Who would Avs fans rather give up ? Zadorov or Girard ?
How far out is your goalie prospect Kaut ?
Montreal and New Jersey are not a verygood fit as trade partners, as both have the same organizational need (LHD) and strength (C Depth). Montreal could help NJ with a young goaltender like Primeau. But considering the age, injury history and contract of Price, Montreal shouldn't walk away from a young cost controlled goaltender with starter potential.What would you want from Montreal? Would a good 20 year old player like Suzuki be enough?
Yup, probably could make something work. We want Hall to take a run at a Cup now. Have depth in farm system to move a young player. Suzuki, our 2nd in 2021 if Hall re-signs in Montreal. A throw in cap dump like Weise?it definitely intrigues me.
maybe Suzuki + conditional 2nd + a roster player to even out salaries?
Definitely not moving Primeau or Caufield for a rental. They could be blue chippers.Montreal and New Jersey are not a verygood fit as trade partners, as both have the same organizational need (LHD) and strength (C Depth). Montreal could help NJ with a young goaltender like Primeau. But considering the age, injury history and contract of Price, Montreal shouldn't walk away from a young cost controlled goaltender with starter potential.
Not moving Chatiot. We are weak at LD as it is.Suzuki
2nd (1st if resigns)
Chiarot?
Only have a rough idea on Habs players value so sorry if its off
You flamed my offer but your is basically the same except you changed Timmins to ZadorovZadorov. Girard is signed for 8 years and isn't available (probably even less so than Byram).
Also Kaut isn't a goalie, he's a winger. Our top goalie prospect is Annunen. "How far" is impossible to answer. 2 years away, perhaps.
If the Avs were to trade for Hall without an extension, I could see something like Zadorov + a B prospect + 1st + conditional 1st (if he resigns). That's the kind of package you should expect based on past similar trades.
That should work, Zadorov is as good as gone in the expansion draft anyways. The Avs are not asking Johnson to waive his NTC.I think Zadorov would be a great target for Jersey. 24 years old and extremely unique, IMO. Big, mean defender. Would bring a nice balance to that blue-line. If they could get Z and a 1st for Hall, I'd be pretty happy with that haul(Hall...) if I were a Devs fan.
I agree with everything you said except that a GM that isn't Dorian could get a better return.Salary at the deadline is almost irrelevant for many teams. That 500k certainly is. A team would only have to have around 2M in space to start the season to absorb Hall without problems at the deadline.
EK also want before the start of the season which makes him more valuable..
Realistically Hall will and should fetch less than EK.
Karlsson was traded earlier, is arguably the better player at the time of the trade and plays a significantly more valuable position..
You can have Zadorov and Kaut. Just not Newhook.As a Devils fan I’m hoping for something like Zadorov type D , a goalie /goalie prospect / pick or winger prospect .
I know Zadorov Kaut Newhook is too much but can the Devils add to make it work ??
Based on how the big name UFAs are all getting the royal treatment during the courting stage by teams on July 1st - how likely is it that Taylor Hall bypasses that opportunity and agrees to an extension at the TDL to whatever team NJ trades him to?
Not bloody likely, by my estimation.
And unfortunately for Devils fans, this is going to severely dampen his value for the most part.
As a Devils fan I’m hoping for something like Zadorov type D , a goalie /goalie prospect / pick or winger prospect .
I know Zadorov Kaut Newhook is too much but can the Devils add to make it work ??
Yup, probably could make something work. We want Hall to take a run at a Cup now. Have depth in farm system to move a young player. Suzuki, our 2nd in 2021 if Hall re-signs in Montreal. A throw in cap dump like Weise?