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Speculation: Tavares to Toronto.... eventually?

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We were never getting Stamkos, and we are never getting Tavares. Take a break and go outside for a walk or something.
 
Fwiw, I think Rick Nash is actually more realistic in terms of homecomings. He's in 2018. The Leafs could very reasonably be good by then, the Rangers aren't a fantastic scenario atm, he's said a lot about loving the Leafs before, and basically said "well, I'll only be 34 when the deal expires" on TSN when asked about the Leafs the week he signed his current deal. He'll also be old enough it'll be more like Roberts/Nieuwendyk than the sorta Stamkos situation. That's the kinda thing I could see happening.
 
Wow, what is with the Toronto media? They must truly believe the rank and file fans in the GTA are dumb as ****. Who is still buying this weak, clickbait chum?

I feel sorry for Leaf fans, because this becomes imprinted on their fanbase unfairly as the mentality of the Leafs. Yeah, I am sure Lou and Shanahan are rubbing their hands together thinking about how they can sign someone to a megadeal in 2018. Meanwhile, they have a team they're focused on now that is loaded with young talent.

Also, this guy is unhinged. I especially like his tweet comparing Mulcair and the NDP to the Nazi party, if that is even what he was driving at. What a complete fool.
 
BreakingGood said:
Fwiw, I think Rick Nash is actually more realistic in terms of homecomings. He's in 2018. The Leafs could very reasonably be good by then, the Rangers aren't a fantastic scenario atm, he's said a lot about loving the Leafs before, and basically said "well, I'll only be 34 when the deal expires" on TSN when asked about the Leafs the week he signed his current deal. He'll also be old enough it'll be more like Roberts/Nieuwendyk than the sorta Stamkos situation. That's the kinda thing I could see happening.
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If the leafs are trending upward and developing their young players, are they really gonna be keen to supplement them with a 34 year old Rick Nash? :help:
 
Skinnyjimmy08 said:
Sorry I cant get the actual tweets on here for some reason... excuse my copy and paste...

Alan Strachan
‏@winsford99
Alan Strachan

I believe they'll get him.



Alan Strachan
‏@winsford99
Alan Strachan

I know the Leafs' plan is to target Tavares. This isn't sudoku here, trying to figure out an ending. It's a plan.


thoughts??
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Looks like more of the same BS we heard the same thing with Stamkos and how did that work out.
 
Extra Texture said:
If the leafs are trending upward and developing their young players, are they really gonna be keen to supplement them with a 34 year old Rick Nash? :help:
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Nash is still pretty good, and if it's a Roberts/Nieuwendyk situation, and this is the reason it's more realistic I think, is that he'd have to take a lesser role. JVR is also gonna be a UFA in 2018, at the really awkward age where he's young enough to still get paid, but old enough you know the end of the deal will look bad if he gets term. The Leafs have no can't miss guys on the left wing, it's all Leivo, Leipsic, Soshnikov, and Rychel, so I mean, conceivably he could play with Matthews and Nylander or Marner on the top line, or Kadri and Nylander/Marner/Brown/maybe Komarov still on the second line. It's a long ways out, but if we're talking this far ahead, I ain't even considering Tavares until he's allowed to talk to other teams, and I think there's a good chance that doesn't happen until 360 days after he's already re-signed.
 
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the same rick nash that has blocked a trade to the leafs...

ok then.
 
We're not going to get Tavares. He's going to use us as leverage at some point I'm sure in contract negotiations if he needs to, and then will sign a long-term contract with the Islanders
 
Number1RedWingsFan52 said:
Actually i was preferring to, Once Snow gets John Tavares locked up next summer with 1 more year left. Then it should cease and assist any more talking of JT to Toronto because we all know that all Toronto born players or Ontario born players want to play for the Leafs.
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When I said "Close" I meant in regards to you saying "cease and assist"

Not to be that guy but its "cease and desist"
 
Jerkini said:
If Steven Stamkos didn't want to come home and play for Toronto, i think it's infinitely less likely that John Tavares would even consider it. You could see the Stamkos connection to Toronto from multiple different angles. None of that exists with Tavares.
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He didn't?

No doubt had the Leafs offered 7 years he would have signed.
 
go4hockey said:
Looks like more of the same BS we heard the same thing with Stamkos and how did that work out.
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I really don't like the equivalence thing. Stamkos wasn't unrealistic. He met with the Leafs. He heard their pitch, and didn't listen to everyone. He repeatedly left the door open, and even if you don't think he Liked those tweets on purpose (I mean, why would he?) he was still reading on Twitter about joining the Leafs. Tavares has shut down all talk about Toronto. Totally different. There's this video that circulated of Spezza, Stamkos, and Tavares, and they asked them all about coming home. Spezza just laughs and says they probably don't want him since he's been a Senator for so long. Tavares and Stamkos both gave really interesting answers. Stamkos got all dreamy eyed and gave an intentionally very vague "who knows what the future has in store" answer, and Tavares basically says "uhh nope" and laughs as if there's no way in hell he'd get involved in this situation now. It's an older video, from 2014 iirc, but you really get the impression Stamkos took the idea much more seriously than Tavares.

Remember: not everything that happens was always destined to happen. I'd say the best you could say on Stamkos is that he thought he'd seriously consider coming, and when it came down to it, he just couldn't leave a good situation. So maybe he was always going to, even if he didn't think he was always going to. Something happening or not happenig doesn't mean it was always pre-ordained, though. That said, I seriously don't have any hint of belief that the Leafs are getting Tavares.
 
what's with the obsession for a team to get players who are from the area?
 
I hope that everyone knows that this guy is just trying to generate clicks and hype. This hasnt even crossed Tavares mind at this point.

Sorry to Isles fans that have to deal with this BS
 
Mad Brills said:
the same rick nash that has blocked a trade to the leafs...

ok then.
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Nash never blocked a deal to the Leafs. A deal was never done. The Leafs were in a playoff spot when he first made his list of teams he'd accept a deal to, and the Leafs were on it. Then they fell apart, and he took them off.

I think what people forget is the Leafs used to fairly regularly get star players from the GTA as UFAs, but the UFA age was 31, so the closest to prime age was Curtis Joseph, and the biggest thing here is that, all things being equal, maybe some guys would like to play in Toronto, but not when the team is terrible. Leafs get good and they'll sign guys as easily as the other good teams do, if not a bit easier. But nobody's coming to save a last place team just because it's their home town.
 
HockeyGuruPitka said:
I hope that everyone knows that this guy is just trying to generate clicks and hype. This hasnt even crossed Tavares mind at this point.

Sorry to Isles fans that have to deal with this BS
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Nah, it's totally different. He doesn't even have a site. He doesn't need clicks. It's worse. He just wants attention because trolling on Twitter is all he can be known for these days.
 
Considering what burke did when he was fired, i wouldn't be surprised.

What he did was essentially tampering
 
DopeyFish said:
Considering what burke did when he was fired, i wouldn't be surprised.

What he did was essentially tampering
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There's a lot of reason to believe the Leafs tamper a lot. In all sports, big market teams (Leafs/Yankees/Lakers) leak **** about who they want to the press so it can be heard without being said. Leafs did it hiring Burke, Yankees did it with CC Sabathia, Lakers did it with Dwight Howard to some extent and well, basically do it with every free agent, and then it doesn't happen (and of course in Dwight's case they waited until he was expiring and leveraged "Dwight is leaving Orlando" into a trade for Andrew Bynum's corpse).
 
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