Tanner Jeannot trade

[DatDude44]

Yeahhhh….I mean…..they probably could’ve landed Timo Meier if they tossed in Isaac Howard at this point looking back at all the deals….lol

Crazy to give up that much for Jeannot, but with that being said, he got injured and obviously the Hedman and Cernak injuries didn’t help. He definitely fits the mold of fast-ish physical complimentary bottom 6 fwds thst have some scoring ability that TB typically added each year they went on their cup runs (Coleman, goodrow, Hagel etc..) If they won this series and went on a another run, this discussion probably wouldn’t be as lopsided as it is

 

[Bank Shot]

Would love for you to give me one player who was available with as much upside as Jeannot who is cost certain and has upside.

‘Lots of options’

Doubt

He's basically Jake Evans so probably Jake Evans.

I don't really see a 26 year old coming off an 18 point season as having tremendous upside. Certainly not if you look at his scoring history through junior and the ahl.

 

[wmupreds]

Yeahhhh….I mean…..they probably could’ve landed Timo Meier if they tossed in Isaac Howard at this point looking back at all the deals….lol

Crazy to give up that much for Jeannot, but with that being said, he got injured and obviously the Hedman and Cernak injuries didn’t help. He definitely fits the mold of fast-ish physical complimentary bottom 6 fwds thst have some scoring ability that TB typically added each year they went on their cup runs (Coleman, goodrow, Hagel etc..) If they won this series and went on a another run, this discussion probably wouldn’t be as lopsided as it is

Fast?

 

[wmupreds]

He's basically Jake Evans so probably Jake Evans.

I don't really see a 26 year old coming off an 18 point season as having tremendous upside. Certainly not if you look at his scoring history through junior and the ahl.

In total fairness to him, I don't see goal scoring as his issue. He'll almost certainly never shoot 20% again but he regressed to a very low % this year and if things stabilize at a normalish number going forward he could hit 12-15 yearly which is fine for a 4th line type.

Unfortunately that's about all he does effectively. Sure he hits a lot but he's not really doing all that much to actually win games with the physicality, he's kind of a mess defensively, he doesn't drive play or have any real transition skill, he's not a terribly good skater. There are better options for bottom 6 who can score similarly that can play defense well at least.

Plus word around NSH was that he had quite high salary demands for what he was producing, which who knows. We'll see how that works out in Tampa I guess.

 

[DatDude44]

Fast?

Fast-ish. Maybe I shouldve said downhill north-south type that wreak havoc below the dots and bring physicality, either way, u get the point…..I hope….

 

[aylib]

The trade will only ever look good if they take him out of that goon role. Make him a “3rd” guy playing on one of the top two lines and let him go when he absolutely has to. Otherwise they paid hela much for an enforcer who isn’t even top tier at that aspect.

His skating is worse than maroons and that’s saying something. He looked couple of steps behind most of the time, even on the 4th line, and that’s prior to his injury.

 

[aylib]

Fast-ish. Maybe I shouldve said downhill north-south type that wreak havoc below the dots and bring physicality, either way, u get the point…..I hope….

Have you seen him play?

 

[DatDude44]

Have you seen him play?

Yeah, u? Granted most of my viewing were when he was in Nashville. You’re trying to tell me he’s not in the same mold of player type as goodrow, Paul, Coleman etc…? Lol

 

[PanniniClaus]

Pro scouts failed here... simple

 

[aylib]

Yeah, u?

You called him fast-ish, so I had to ask.

 

[DatDude44]

You called him fast-ish, so I had to ask.

And u ignored everything else I said? Classic

Whether you like it or not, He’s not maroon slow when he’s healthy.

 

[serp]

Right now its looks pretty bad ( as it did when it happened ) but since he's RFA this might still turn out ok in the longer run . They were clearly banking on Jeannot to return to form of last year and that has not happened yet.

Maybe with a full camp and all that. Right now massive overpayment but also injuries played a part

 

[aylib]

And u ignored everything else I said? Classic

Whether you like it or not, He’s not maroon slow when he’s healthy.

He is slower than maroon, other stuff you said isn’t worth mentioning. Simply addressing you calling him fast-ish. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[danny90]

4 points in 20 regular season games

0 points -2 in the playoffs

Nashville received defenseman Cal Foote, a conditional first-round pick in the 2025 NHL Draft, a second-round pick in the 2024 NHL Draft, and a third-, fourth- and fifth-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft.

Is this one of the worst trades of all time?

It sounds bad but hitting a player like jeannot with any of things picks is probably incredibly rare

 

[NHL Fanatik]

Bad trade but TBs window was closing anyway. Might as well Leeroy Jenkins it before it was too late.

Agreed but you can find a much better player

and shout out WoW

 

[DatDude44]

He is slower than maroon, other stuff you said isn’t worth mentioning.

Well the other stuff is why they traded for him….and also why they traded for Paul, Coleman, goodrow, hagel(tho he’s clearly a tier or two above these guys as a player), signed maroon etc…. It’s unfortunate for TB he wasn’t able to provide that, but that’s what he was in Nashville and that’s what TB was investing in at the deadline.

If u just want to point out my generalization of fast-ish for those guys then go ahead, I’m not dying on that hill lol, I don’t really care, maybe he’s slower than I remembered, but the type of player and attributes he was supposed to bring to the table are exactly what I stated, so not sure how that’s “not worth mentioning” but that one little -ish word apparently grinds your gears to no end… lol

 

[wmupreds]

It sounds bad but hitting a player like jeannot with any of things picks is probably incredibly rare

I don't think finding a Jeannot (or better) in the 1st or even 2nd round is "incredibly rare".

But idk I also believe Jeannot types are easy enough to find as cheap FAs that I'll gladly take the roll of the dice on draft picks.

 

[Oddbob]

This is one of the most mind boggling trades I have ever seen. 6 assets for an agitator.

 

[ijuka]

Would love for you to give me one player who was available with as much upside as Jeannot who is cost certain and has upside.

‘Lots of options’

Doubt

So, here's what I don't get. Why, exactly, do you think that Jeannot had so much upside?

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I’d like to see him healthy. they’ll have him for a few years after this one. Too early to come to conclusions like “one of the worst trades of all time”

people said the same thing last year about Hagel…

 

[Over the volcano]

Didn’t Hagel trade also look bad at first ?

It did and it's starting to look bad again if it gave them the confidence to make this deal for Jeannot

 

[Alex1234]

Would love for you to give me one player who was available with as much upside as Jeannot who is cost certain and has upside.

‘Lots of options’

Doubt

« As much upside » like in healthy scratch on a team with Bellemare and Marroon on the LW?

 

[AvroArrow]

Didn’t Hagel trade also look bad at first ?

No, Hagel was a proven top 6 player on an absolute steal of a contract

 

[Evergreen]

I was rooting for the Leafs in this series because I'm sort of bored with Tampa winning so much, but I don't think this trade is as bad as you're making it sound. Jeannot was clearly not even close to 100% after that knee injury. And he's still under team control, so it's not like he was a rental.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I know Jeannot was playing injured, wonder how severe the injury was.

Jeannot looked like he couldn’t accelerate normally.