Proposal: Tanev to Toronto/Buffalo/Colorado

[Ivan13]

So Avs need a 3rd RHD

Avs need top 6 talent, they have plenty of depth D.

PS

If Vancouver wants to throw Virtanen our way on the cheap (don't see hwy they would) I don't see any deal that makes sense from Avs POV.

 

[Liferleafer]

Would love Tanev in TO, but there just isn't a deal that works. Anything we would do would be Players like JVR/Kadri for defensive help....that doesn't work for Vancouver. Toronto won't be dealing youth or picks at this point.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Make no mistake. I'd love Tanev on the Avs but there's realistically no room for him or a move that makes sense for us.

 

[DougGilmour93]

JVR + Gardiner +2nd in 17 (leafs choice as they have 3)

For

Virtanen + Tanev + 3rd in 17

 

[Raymoondo]

JVR + Gardiner +2nd in 17 (leafs choice as they have 3)

For

Virtanen + Tanev + 3rd in 17

Don't think that's enough tbh

 

[strictlyrandy]

Don't think that's enough tbh

I don't think it's awful either as an outsider. I think there's something to work with tbh.

 

[Syckle78]

JVR + Gardiner +2nd in 17 (leafs choice as they have 3)

For

Virtanen + Tanev + 3rd in 17

Too much from Toronto.

Don't say that often..

 

[one77]

JVR for Tanev straight up. Tanev is great and all but so is JVR. The difference between the two players is NOT Gardiner

 

[Nuckles]

The Canucks are not in a position to give up anything of value for JVR. We're a very bad team that's in desperate need for a very long rebuild. JVR is a UFA in a couple of years and he won't help our team much.

 

[TOGuy14]

JVR + Gardiner +2nd in 17 (leafs choice as they have 3)

For

Virtanen + Tanev + 3rd in 17

Way too much from Toronto.

Also not a fan of Virtanen at all. Hockey IQ is just way too low to be a regular NHL player.

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

Avs need top 6 talent, they have plenty of depth D.

PS

If Vancouver wants to throw Virtanen our way on the cheap (don't see hwy they would) I don't see any deal that makes sense from Avs POV.

Yeah, it was a question without a question mark.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

22 pages of Tanev for JVR again.
Just give up Leafs fans. It's not happening because it's a ***** proposal.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Way too much from Toronto.

Also not a fan of Virtanen at all. Hockey IQ is just way too low to be a regular NHL player.

Yet he is one of the most defensively responsible players on our team, last year and so far this year too, it's amazing that he can do with such a low hockey IQ

 

[Oliewud]

Is tanev for drouin laughable?

 

[Weast]

Oh ok if you say so. lol

Maybe he's saying that because the Avs have Barrie and EJ as RHD and Duchene is the leading scorer. Maybe remember that a trade should help both sides.

 

[bossram]

JVR + Gardiner +2nd in 17 (leafs choice as they have 3)

For

Virtanen + Tanev + 3rd in 17

Don't think that's enough tbh

I don't think it's awful either as an outsider. I think there's something to work with tbh.

JVR for Tanev straight up. Tanev is great and all but so is JVR. The difference between the two players is NOT Gardiner

Too much from Toronto.

Don't say that often..

Would love Tanev in TO, but there just isn't a deal that works. Anything we would do would be Players like JVR/Kadri for defensive help....that doesn't work for Vancouver. Toronto won't be dealing youth or picks at this point.

Liferleafer is right. There's no deal to be made here. Canucks need youth and would be asking for guys like Marner/Nylander. That's gonna happen. JVR doesn't do anything for Vancouver. A guy who's just gonna walk as a UFA does nothing for the rebuild. Gardiner is a lateral swap at best. I like Kadri, but we can't trade Tanev for a 2C type. We need upside.

Let's just move on.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Tanev does nothing for Buffalo but it's the thought that counts, I guess?

Tanev lets you lose Bogo to Vegas. He also gives you a pairing in Kulikov/Tanev that finally gets Risto away from so many Dzone starts.

 

[Jim Bob]

Tanev lets you lose Bogo to Vegas. He also gives you a pairing in Kulikov/Tanev that finally gets Risto away from so many Dzone starts.

I doubt LV takes Bogosian. He will have 3 years at over $5M per left and if he can't stay healthy, I doubt LV goes that route.

 

[4thline]

Liferleafer is right. There's no deal to be made here. Canucks need youth and would be asking for guys like Marner/Nylander. That's gonna happen. JVR doesn't do anything for Vancouver. A guy who's just gonna walk as a UFA does nothing for the rebuild. Gardiner is a lateral swap at best. I like Kadri, but we can't trade Tanev for a 2C type. We need upside.

Let's just move on.

There is a deal, but not many Leafs fans would be ok with it.

2017 1st (top 5 protected)+ Bracco/Dermott + 2018 SJ 2nd (if we make the playoffs this year or it's a top 5 pick and make it next year when the pick transfers.

 

[bossram]

There is a deal, but not many Leafs fans would be ok with it.

2017 1st (top 5 protected)+ Bracco/Dermott + 2018 SJ 2nd (if we make the playoffs this year or it's a top 5 pick and make it next year when the pick transfers.

In terms of value, it's pretty close for both sides.

But as a Canucks fan, it doesn't fit our needs. There isn't a deal here. We need a future core. We need high-end upside young players. We need AAA prospects. That's not a slight to guys like Bracco and Dermott who I think are pretty good. But we have prospects of that calibre (not as many as the Leafs, but still). We need the Marner/Nylander calibre prospects. We need that extra top-five pick. We absolutely cannot trade Tanev for less than that.

It's not something we can do. And understandably Leafs fans will not want to give up a Marner/Nylander/top-five pick.

So there just isn't anything that can get done here.

 

[Cogburn]

There is a deal, but not many Leafs fans would be ok with it.

2017 1st (top 5 protected)+ Bracco/Dermott + 2018 SJ 2nd (if we make the playoffs this year or it's a top 5 pick and make it next year when the pick transfers.

No thank you. Too many small pieces, and the way Benning drafts I don't think that 1st will be used effectively.

 

[Liferleafer]

There is a deal, but not many Leafs fans would be ok with it.

2017 1st (top 5 protected)+ Bracco/Dermott + 2018 SJ 2nd (if we make the playoffs this year or it's a top 5 pick and make it next year when the pick transfers.

Conversation ends. Is Tanev worth it? Maybe. Are the Leafs in a position to trade 1st round picks? Nope.

Again...no deal that works for both teams.

 

[Liferleafer]

No thank you. Too many small pieces, and the way Benning drafts I don't think that 1st will be used effectively.

Not condoning the deal, but aren't Nucks fans praying for a true rebuild? A deal like this is exactly the type that would signify the start of a rebuild.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

JVR + Gardiner +2nd in 17 (leafs choice as they have 3)

For

Virtanen + Tanev + 3rd in 17

Hard pass! Try again....

 

[4thline]

In terms of value, it's pretty close for both sides.

But as a Canucks fan, it doesn't fit our needs. There isn't a deal here. We need a future core. We need high-end upside young players. We need AAA prospects. That's not a slight to guys like Bracco and Dermott who I think are pretty good. But we have prospects of that calibre (not as many as the Leafs, but still). We need the Marner/Nylander calibre prospects. We need that extra top-five pick. We absolutely cannot trade Tanev for less than that.

It's not something we can do. And understandably Leafs fans will not want to give up a Marner/Nylander/top-five pick.

So there just isn't anything that can get done here.

Fair enough, but you do know that Nylander was an 8th overall right? I would think that pick falls around 8th-12. That's the AAA prospect in the deal. Well chance of one. Slam dunk AAA's don't get traded in a Tanev level deal

No thank you. Too many small pieces, and the way Benning drafts I don't think that 1st will be used effectively.

There is one small piece, one huge one. That doesn't invalidate the huge one.

Conversation ends. Is Tanev worth it? Maybe. Are the Leafs in a position to trade 1st round picks? Nope.

Again...no deal that works for both teams.

Most tired trope on the board. The only time a team "isn't in a possession to trade firsts" is when their prospect pool is depleted. A 1st round pick is just a player with x probability of reaching y talent level with the added benefit of cost control. In a smart deal for a key piece of commensurate value any draft pick is available at any time. See Andersen. F. As long as it's got that top 5 protection (because in all likelihood any trade wouldn't be for a player worthy of Patrick/ Liljegren.