Value of: Tanev and Lindholm to VAN
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Brace for all the incoming Kuzmenko + some crappy prospects proposals
I don't see why the need Lindholm. Tanev makes sense. I'd take Brusterwics straight up... Or a pair of 2nds. You guys owe us for the light return on Zadorov.
eviohh26
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Not willing to pay what you guys would want. We also don't need any game breakers. Just some more depth would be fine.
I feel like anyone who remembers 2011 knows you need insane depth. Someone like Lindholm could fill in late in the playoffs for injury or win us a round alone maybe like Kesler. He’s cheap and we can afford him.
Tanev is also very good playoff depth.
1st and a 2nd? Need a cap player then
Tkachuk Norris
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Still doesn't make up for turning Sven Baertschi into Rasmus Andersson
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The Flames drafted Tkachuk, because the Canucks took Juolevi (for some reason), the pick before. The organization turned Tkachuk into Huberdeau, which is royaly F-ing the Flames. Your fault.
I'm all for it. We finally have depth scoring and our top guys performing at the same time, lets go for it and really take advantage of the lack of super teams.
Lindholm @25%
Tanev @50%
$5.8875 Million out
For
Myers
2024 First
2025 Second
Brzustewicz
$6 Million out
Basically a first and Brzustewicz for Lindholm + retention, then Myers and a second for Tanev. Calgary can retain on the giraffe and get another 3rd for him. 1st, 2nd, 3rd and Brzustewicz for Lindholm, Tanev and money? Is that reasonable? I would also do the 1st, Lekkerimaki and Myers for the same package if Calgary retains 50% on both deals.
Petey - Miller - Boeser
Kuz - Lindholm - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - Lafferty
Hughes - Tanev/Hronek
Soucy - Hronek/Tanev
Zadorov - Cole
Lindholm @25%
Tanev @50%
$5.8875 Million out
For
Myers
2024 First
2025 Second
Brzustewicz
$6 Million out
Basically a first and Brzustewicz for Lindholm + retention, then Myers and a second for Tanev. Calgary can retain on the giraffe and get another 3rd for him. 1st, 2nd, 3rd and Brzustewicz for Lindholm, Tanev and money? Is that reasonable? I would also do the 1st, Lekkerimaki and Myers for the same package if Calgary retains 50% on both deals.
Petey - Miller - Boeser
Kuz - Lindholm - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - Lafferty
Hughes - Tanev/Hronek
Soucy - Hronek/Tanev
Zadorov - Cole
You can have Bru, a 1st a 2nd for Lindholm. Uniting the lotto line is likely to good to split up and not saying EP is a Diva but he looks so Good damn happy to be back with the two most effective mates he's had. That leaves us not desperate for a 2C but it would be huge for what is hopefully a long season.
He's also a calibre of player that you make room to re-sign if the fit is good.
As for Tanev, in the games I've seen he hasn't looked great and with cap restrictions a 2C would be my hope.
Ledge And Dairy
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Take out Tanev and Flames may accept that.
Taking on Myers and retaining should cost at least a 2nd.
No dog in the fight, but Myers is owed next to nothing in salary and wouldn't cost anywhere near a 2nd to dump
Ledge And Dairy
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Teams can't just simply take on a 6M depth player, half the league is using LTIR and can't accrue cap space this year, the other half aren't buyers. Even if Calgary were to try and flip him with retention (despite using 2/3 retention slots in the above deal and still likely wanting to move Hanifin too) not a lot of teams will want him at 3M either. So yes while he is owed very little in actual money he is still a very negative value trade asset
they don't have any blue chippers like harris or strubble to offer
Sure beats the Anderson proposals am I right.they don't have any blue chippers like harris or strubble to offer
Canucks giving up Bruster who has 60 points in 39 games as a dman for old man UFA in Tanev. Thats a good joke lol
Lekker, Bruster, Willander are the untoucheable prospects, Podkolzin Would also be close to untoucheable due to the fact he is NHL ready.
Tanev is worth a 2nd and maybe another pick or mid prospect like maybe Brisbois
Fat chance we give that up lol. Lindholm and Tanev are both UFAs and not even elite.
Would trade Willander if Andersson was the return
i what world is a 35 point pace defensemen a negative asset.
The Canucks should have no problem moving him if they were so inclined. If the Flames did this trade before the trade deadline, the Flames could get even more by retaining and trading him to a contender.
He's a UFA and would be owed something like $150,000 by the trade deadline. the bulk of his salary was paid in a signing bonuses this season. Not like the Flames need that cap space for anything.
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The one where he’s consistently proven to be a 15-25 point dman making with a 6 mil cap hit having an outlier half season with tons of second assists. Lol
He’s definitely negative value. Contender/buyer would never waste cap on that, seller would not give up anything for him. If he was moved it would be as a negative value cap dump to a open cap space in a trade, even if he’s still an ok player l
pretend its beneath you all you like. he's having a good season, he's a UFA, he's cash cheap. if the canucks were so inclined, he's movable. if the you don't think the flames can flip that, while, you deserve that management group.
Ledge And Dairy
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Lol he's been awful for years and is still bad. Good on him for catching a few stray points on the highest scoring team in the league but he's still a liability out there.
Also a team can only retain on 3 contracts at any given time. That proposal has Calgary using 2 of their retention slots + taking on his full cap hit. Hanifin is obviously more valuable than him so they would use that last retention slot on Noah first without hesitation.
I'd consider that. I think it's a solid offer for Lindholm. Just still genuinely confused as to why Vancouver is interested in Lindholm and not one of Hanifin or Tanev considering their roster. I know EP has been playing wing lately, but isn't he usually a C?
Sure, he's worth IMO a 2nd and 3rd. I'd rather send him not to Vancouver. Just because their fans are extra insufferable when they are good. They'll be half a dozen teams willing to give a 2nd and 3rd. I want some incentive to send him there,
