GDT: Tampa Bay Lightning vs New Jersey Devils: Pickle Blake

[BenedictGomez]

Can't wait to see how NBCSN trashes us. Always good for a laugh.

I disagree.

There appears to be a new era dawning in Devils hockey with regards to the media.

We've gone.........

FROM: unreasonably and too harshly ripped-on and ridiculed

TO: unreasonably and too excessively praised and applauded

 

[BenedictGomez]

There are aspects of Moore's game I like. I like Severson but I don't like them together. They are both gamblers positionally and with the puck, not Zidlicky bad, but still risks.

What was wrong with Green/Severson?

Agreed, I dont like them together either.

Both of them tend to forget they're playing defense in the NHL, and that they're not Paul Coffey or Mike Bossy.

What's "wrong" I think is that it's pretty clear Hynes insists on protecting Butcher with a veteran. I get it. I just hope Moore-Severson only results in 1 goal against tonight (because there's no way those 2 keep a clean sheet).

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Now that Lovejoy is officially out, I feel better already. Hynes is smarter than I thought. Real though game against probably the best team in hockey, at least now we have a chance.

 

[EliasFTW]

I disagree.

There appears to be a new era dawning in Devils hockey with regards to the media.

We've gone.........

FROM: unreasonably and too harshly ripped-on and ridiculed

TO: unreasonably and too excessively praised and applauded

Maybe so. After years of being the butt of every joke i stopped watching the main stream hockey media, so i haven't paid too much attention in recent years.

 

[BenedictGomez]

we have an illustrious history of allowing players first ever goals. Not jinxing... just saying that there's a certain Devil who has yet to get his due

This is the first home game I'm missing this season, so it's a shoe-in Nico scores his first NHL goal tonight.

The Mueller thing is stupid. He'd done nothing to warrant sitting multiple games for Bumjoy.

Mueller's been fine, but I have no problem with him sitting a spell. I think Hynes is doing a great job with this. Let the rookies watch a game or two, keep em' hungry. Also, I DONT like players (especially D) sitting for too long and getting rusty, so as much as I think Prout is "meh", I wanted to see him get in a game or two.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Maybe so. After years of being the butt of every joke i stopped watching the main stream hockey media, so i haven't paid too much attention in recent years.

Oh, I didn't mean "years", I meant more like a few weeks. The media has been slobbering over the Devils 4-1 start.

Personally, I think the Devils fall back to earth big-time unless the D collectively improves, but I'm enjoying the ride so far.

 

[These Are The Days]

Does every fan think that their team is known for giving up 1st career goals?

I'm not sure but we could ask guys like Michael Matheson, Sam Reinhart and Erik Gryba... hell even McDavid managed his first career shootout goal against us and we gave up Dumoulin's first career playoff goal.

I wish I was joking but I wouldn't say this if it was not true. These names are just off the top of my head

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

A lot of talk about Nico getting points tonight (myself included), but I would also like to at least a point out of Bratt. I'm hoping we get a lot of jam from our top-9 tonight.

 

[AfroThunder396]

I'm not sure but we could ask guys like Michael Matheson, Sam Reinhart and Erik Gryba... hell even McDavid managed his first career shootout goal against us and we gave up Dumoulin's first career playoff goal.

I wish I was joking but I wouldn't say this if it was not true. These names are just off the top of my head

Well, Kyle Palmieri scored his first career goal against us and now we use him to terrorize other teams. Hopefully the same holds true for you guys as well.

 

[NJDevs26]

He's another one sitting when his play absolutely doesn't deserve it.

Redemption is great and all, but how about merit? Hayes has no business being in the lineup right now.

It's six games into the season. They're not going to outright bury anyone at this point. Guys are going to get rotated in and out till there's more of a sample size to make consistent lineup decisions. If Noesen had shown enough when he had his chances last year maybe he wouldn't be on the back end of the roster merry go round to start this year.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Noesen has been fine, but I don't think he's really distinguished himself above and beyond what the other guys in the bottom-6 have been doing. Really, only Gibbons, Wood, and Bratt (I guess he's bottom-6?) have exceeded expectations.

Certainly he hasn't been impressive enough to avoid the rotation. Wood sat for the first game and made it very clear he doesn't want to sit again. We have a bunch of guys playing well and not enough spots for all of them, everyone is going to sit at some point. Nothing personal nor an indictment against his play, just a consequence of the numbers.

 

[These Are The Days]

Well, Kyle Palmieri scored his first career goal against us and now we use him to terrorize other teams. Hopefully the same holds true for you guys as well.

lol maybe someday right? We don't really have a Devil killer in the lineup. The Wings on the other hand... well let's just say they check under their beds for Tyler Johnson and Nikita Kucherov

 

[Blender]

Noesen has been fine, but I don't think he's really distinguished himself above and beyond what the other guys in the bottom-6 have been doing. Really, only Gibbons, Wood, and Bratt (I guess he's bottom-6?) have exceeded expectations.

Certainly he hasn't been impressive enough to avoid the rotation. Wood sat for the first game and made it very clear he doesn't want to sit again. We have a bunch of guys playing well and not enough spots for all of them, everyone is going to sit at some point. Nothing personal nor an indictment against his play, just a consequence of the numbers.

Zero reason Hayes should be in over Noesen for 5 he 2nd game in a row. None. Hayes was the worst player against Washington where Noesen was fine, and Hayes was again the worst against the Rags and was benched for 2 periods for good reason.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

It's six games into the season. They're not going to outright bury anyone at this point. Guys are going to get rotated in and out till there's more of a sample size to make consistent lineup decisions. If Noesen had shown enough when he had his chances last year maybe he wouldn't be on the back end of the roster merry go round to start this year.

I guess it comes down to how you've evaluated those previous games. I don't think Noesen's been a "passable passenger". I think he's had an appreciable affect on the ice, to the point that taking him out sends the wrong message IMO and squad rotation doesn't sufficiently answer that for me. I think it's poor squad mamagement.

Now, that said, we're talking about a fourth line wing. I'm not going to flip my lid, but...

 

[ThePrideofStockholm]

Ben Lovejoy, why? What evil have this fan base done to deserve this?

 

[Darkauron]

Wtf Islanders play-by-play guy calling the game tonight. I WANTED DOC

 

[Brick City]

I'm going to create an ap that turns all "Rick and Morty" gifs into Seinfeld gifs.

I think the likes to this post may have well revealed the generational pop culture gap. Can we all just get along and agree to classic Simpsons gifs.

I disagree.

There appears to be a new era dawning in Devils hockey with regards to the media.

We've gone.........

FROM: unreasonably and too harshly ripped-on and ridiculed

TO: unreasonably and too excessively praised and applauded

Heavily prefer the former. I'd prefer our opponents to not see us coming. Save planning the parade in October for Rangers and Toronto fans.

 

[HenriquesJawLine]

It must be exhausting whining about minor lineup changes every single day

 

[Better Call Sal]

The rookie gif has now turned into the new celebratory gif, correct? I'll refrain from posting it beforehand, if so.

No jinxing here!

 

[BenedictGomez]

It must be exhausting whining about minor lineup changes every single day

You just need to work up your stamina.

Start with whining about 4th-line and #5/#6 defense decisions, and in no time at all you'll be switching 1st & 2nd line wingers.

 

[AfroThunder396]

I mean, the fact we have like 15 competent forwards is a great thing. Last year we barely had 5. I'll gladly bench some 4th liners if it means we don't have to make Hall and Palms win every game singlehandedly.

 

[mtnet]

Rep just emailed to inform me hype train admission no longer available in PDF or paper

 

[Jets012]

I was fine with Mueller sitting since the guy has looked horrible by every metric and by the eye-test thus far this year. Prout, who actually has been a solid bottom-pairing guy since we acquired him, is the one I would like to see on a nightly basis. Hopefully they start phasing out Moore and have Butcher take his role. Moore does bring some offense I'll give him that, but he is flat out awful at everything else. I understand Hynes thought process separating Severson and Greene. He clearly wants Severson to carry someone like Moore, and with the lack of depth on the defense we might need to separate them since the other 4 would be a dumpster fire together, but I just don't know if it is going to work. The Severson/Greene pairing really is a nice pairing. Greene/Santini hasn't been IMO.

And count me with the group that is Pro Noesen over Hayes. Hayes should be a healthy scratch going forward.

 

[mtnet]

Not to mention, has Hayes scored with a deflection off his face yet?

Didn't think so...

 

[Billdo]

I'd rather Noesen than Hayes but maybe they're to figure out how much more they can stand with him before waiving him.