Tampa Bay: Are we witnessing the best roster in the cap era?

stampedingviking

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I dunno man. If winning championships doesn't mean your team is the best in the league then I don't think any team can be labeled as the best, as there's absolutely no way to quantify it. Winning the president's trophy doesn't mean anything. It means you've accumulated the most points during the season to give you an advantage going into the playoffs, but the season on a whole isn't done yet, hence the remaining 16 teams battling it out to become the leagues number 1. If simply winning the president's trophy means you're the best of the best, then why bother with the playoffs and Stanley cup?
Just saying that a sample size of 82 games is possibly a better measure than a few games tacked on at the end of the season. Yes, I know it's for the cup, that doesn't stop it being a much smaller sample size in which luck/injuries can play a much larger part..
 
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Luigi Lemieux

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Just saying that a sample size of 82 games is possibly a better measure than a few games tacked on at the end of the season. Yes, I know it's for the cup, that doesn't stop it being a much smaller sample size in which luck/injuries can play a much larger part..
The regular season is simply preparation for the playoffs. It's absolutely not a better measure for who the best team is. The playoffs is when your opponent scrutinizes your strengths and weaknesses in order exploit them. It's a strategic chess match with the intensity ramped up to 11, and you have to be able to adapt. There's a reason why the same teams kept winning the cup over the past decade.
 

Rschmitz

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The regular season is simply preparation for the playoffs. It's absolutely not a better measure for who the best team is. The playoffs is when your opponent scrutinizes your strengths and weaknesses in order exploit them. It's a strategic chess match with the intensity ramped up to 11, and you have to be able to adapt. There's a reason why the same teams kept winning the cup over the past decade.

That's fine, but there is this huge misconception that the Lightning are bad in the playoffs. Pretty sure nobody has more playoff victories than the Lightning have over the past 4 years
 

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I don't care what they do. They are irrelevant. Just get my damn team's jersey off.
Do you get pissed off when you see someone driving the same car as you or when someone uses the same shirt?

Anyway, I'll give the honor of arguing with you to others, your level of intelligence is just too much for me.
 

Luigi Lemieux

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That's fine, but there is this huge misconception that the Lightning are bad in the playoffs. Pretty sure nobody has more playoff victories than the Lightning have over the past 4 years
Penguins have more, 39-34. I don't think anyone is saying they're bad in the playoffs.
 

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Everybody always falls in love with great first half regular season teams. Truth is come playoff time it wont mean much except more pressure if they keep it up.

These guys are not the Wings or Hawks calibre imo but I'm open to changing my mind...
 
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BeingTheThunder

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Cringe is cheering for a team that's basically wearing leaf jerseys.

Ya could have at least changed the damn blue.

The Tampa Bay Maple Leafs...lol.
Couldn't really do that because the Tampa Bay Lightning have actually won a playoff series or two in the past 15 years. Call yourself a member of the big boys club when you win a few series in the postseason.
 

VoluntaryDom

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Last I checked a team has to win at least 3 to get to a game 7. How does one get "dominated" yet manage to win 3?
Yeah, and we outplayed Washington for some real stretches too. And I still believe that if Drouin’s goal had counted we would have held on to win game 6 against the Pens.
 

Master P

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I don't care what they do. They are irrelevant. Just get my damn team's jersey off.
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Looks like Babcock has a different opinion. :laugh:
 

gtrower

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Yeah, and we outplayed Washington for some real stretches too. And I still believe that if Drouin’s goal had counted we would have held on to win game 6 against the Pens.

I looked it up. 9 ES goals in 7 games against the Caps last May - that’s including an ENG too. Caps had 19 ES goals (also 1 being an ENG). That’s why people are arguing that the series was one-sided. Bolts drove play for some stretches, sure. And having a good PP is part of the game. But the Caps dominated ES play.
 

DFC

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Luck obviously. Don't try to rewrite the past, Tampa did nothing in the offensive zone at even strength all series.

We got out-coached. Kept trying the exact same entry with the exact same results. Our transition was horrible (thus the Bowness firing, IMO), and then we kept trying a dump-and-chase game that the Caps were clearly ready for. They often had a guy literally waiting to pick off the dump-in, and yet we kept right on going back to it. Those were a couple of frustrating games.
 

VoluntaryDom

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We got out-coached. Kept trying the exact same entry with the exact same results. Our transition was horrible (thus the Bowness firing, IMO), and then we kept trying a dump-and-chase game that the Caps were clearly ready for. They often had a guy literally waiting to pick off the dump-in, and yet we kept right on going back to it. Those were a couple of frustrating games.
Well the bow ness firing could also have to do with our atrocious PK
 

RedHawkDown

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Probably up there. I think they win the cup this year tbh. Point and McDonagh got way better than last year, Vasi took another step and everyone else is just as good. Just an absurd team. Here’s hoping Stevie can do the same for Detroit once he takes over GM.
 

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