Tailgating at Sens games - would you attend?

[Tuna99]

Would you attend a Senators tailgate?

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[dumbdick]

Swap the "coolers filled to the top" for "heaters turned to full blast".

Then I'm in. And by in I mean 1 or 2 beers. 'cause i gotta drive.

And also don't start too early, cause the kids got hockey practices.

Then I'm in.

 

[Micklebot]

Tailgating during the playoffs, I'd do. But for a Tues night game against SJ in Feb, not a chance.

Seems to me the ingredients for successful tailgating culture are the following;
a) weekend games
b) good weather
c) 1 to 4 o'clock starts
d) scarcity of games

The NHL games don't typically check a lot of those boxes, which is why it's less common.

 

[dumbdick]

If I was younger and cooler, I'd be bringing an ice fishing pop up tent and stocking it with a heater, some tunes and some buds.

I wonder how long it would take them to shut down a campfire if someone brought a raised fire ring and set it up in the parking lot.

But prices and lack of transportation are the real reasons people don't get bombed at the games.

Hopefully the team finds a way to build in some tailgating options at Lebreton. Or they at least build some kind of high capacity bar nearby that people can hit before and after.

 

[Tuna99]

Tailgating during the playoffs, I'd do. But for a Tues night game against SJ in Feb, not a chance.

Seems to me the ingredients for successful tailgating culture are the following;
a) weekend games
b) good weather
c) 1 to 4 o'clock starts
d) scarcity of games

The NHL games don't typically check a lot of those boxes, which is why it's less common.

let’s target the Bluejackets game Sunday April 6, all lined up for a great event. It’s on a Sunday so makes sense to our biological clock that wants canned beer and dirty wings on a Sunday at 3pm because it’s a 5pm game start so lots of light, in the playoff run, weekend, low attended game so the Sens could probably use the help, and we fans want it, and we deserve it, and there’s no good reason not to do it.

Charge $40 to park that day, Sens keeep some money for the cleanup, some money goes to charity, and it’s. win win win for everyone (this idea is so crazy I am proposing upping parking fees)

Stick the TSN crew right in the middle of it, they all have to sit on coolers and Cheryl Pounder has the biggest cooler. Who doesn’t want to see Chris Neil crush a table?

Thoughts?

 

[Micklebot]

let’s target the Bluejackets game Sunday April 6, all lined up for a great event. It’s on a Sunday so makes sense to our biological clock that wants canned beer and dirty wings on a Sunday at 3pm because it’s a 5pm game start so lots of light, in the playoff run, weekend, low attended game so the Sens could probably use the help, and we fans want it, and we deserve it, and there’s no good reason not to do it.

Charge $40 to park that day, Sens keeep some money for the cleanup, some money goes to charity, and it’s. win win win for everyone (this idea is so crazy I am proposing upping parking fees)

Thoughts?

That game has potential for all the ingredients (aside from scarcity, but with 82 games a year, you'll always have some saying, I'd do it next game and fail to hit that critical mass).

Be nice if it could be tied into Fan appreciation week, but that's the following week.

 

[Tuna99]

That game has potential for all the ingredients (aside from scarcity, but with 82 games a year, you'll always have some saying, I'd do it next game and fail to hit that critical mass).

Be nice if it could be tied into Fan appreciation week, but that's the following week.

Illl throw a Permit together and reach out to Micheal Andlauer, let you know how it goes.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Yes, if it's in late May or June....

 

[maclean]

Just out of curiosity, isn't one of the main cultural differences that allows this phenomenon to exist in the US the fact that alcohol consumption outside a licensed establishment is not a mortal sin there?

 

[Tuna99]

Just out of curiosity, isn't one of the main cultural differences that allows this phenomenon to exist in the US the fact that alcohol consumption outside a licensed establishment is not a mortal sin there?

Liquor board has tailgate permits to license a public space, Sens are uniquely positioned with their arena in a cornfield to do this now. Maybe the only NHL team that could do it.

 

[Samboni]

IMO tailgate parties would be too boorish for most local fans. Not enough blue collar fans. Maybe a big bon fire with hot chocolate and a sing-a-long.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I’d go in playoffs, like in the past, when weather is warmer and snow has melted.
Not attending in the winter, straight from car to the building for me.

 

[thinkwild]

Do they do much tailgating for NBA games? Seems more a Sunday afternoon nfl thing where stadiums have huge parking lots. Cant imagine it happening at MSG for example.
Sens have had beer gardens and food in the plaza out front during warm playoff days which was ok except still paying arena prices for beer. Im guessing it would just be one parking lot that you could pay extra for to set up BBQ's? Maybe lot 9 against the grass or something. I remember nearly getting frostbite once trying to find the car in lot 9 one cold wintery night. Maybe if they move downtown they could set up bbq parties on the aqueduct before games

 

[jbeck5]

Just out of curiosity, isn't one of the main cultural differences that allows this phenomenon to exist in the US the fact that alcohol consumption outside a licensed establishment is not a mortal sin there?

Yeah, I don't get this either.

Other places allow alcohol consumption in public places...no issues.

Why is it an issue here? Whether you chug a beer at home and then walk to a bar, or bring a beer on your walk, what is the difference in the governments eyes?

I guess back in the day when it was 90% bottle sales they could make the argument that people will smash bottles...but now it's all cans and plastic bottles...homeless people have proven that the area will be clear of empties...

What's the problem?

We have public shoot up sites...we can smoke weed outside in public...but we can sip on a beer can in public? So much for freedoms.

 

[jbeck5]

Do they do much tailgating for NBA games? Seems more a Sunday afternoon nfl thing where stadiums have huge parking lots. Cant imagine it happening at MSG for example.
Sens have had beer gardens and food in the plaza out front during warm playoff days which was ok except still paying arena prices for beer. Im guessing it would just be one parking lot that you could pay extra for to set up BBQ's? Maybe lot 9 against the grass or something. I remember nearly getting frostbite once trying to find the car in lot 9 one cold wintery night. Maybe if they move downtown they could set up bbq parties on the aqueduct before games

They don't even need to do anything extravagant.

Just a BYOB and BYOW and BYOM and let the people enjoy.

Would need security around making sure people drinking are of age.

 

[dumbdick]

Yeah, I don't get this either.

Other places allow alcohol consumption in public places...no issues.

Why is it an issue here? Whether you chug a beer at home and then walk to a bar, or bring a beer on your walk, what is the difference in the governments eyes?

I guess back in the day when it was 90% bottle sales they could make the argument that people will smash bottles...but now it's all cans and plastic bottles...homeless people have proven that the area will be clear of empties...

What's the problem?

We have public shoot up sites...we can smoke weed outside in public...but we can sip on a beer can in public? So much for freedoms.

Historical precedent. If public drinking had always been legal people would riot if the gov tried to change it to being illegal (See Kingdom, United).

Same way that if guns were just invented today they would be immediately banned tomorrow. And people would unanimously agree with that decision.

Same way that people love karlsson until he's traded and then shit on him afterwards.

People have very illogical preferences and the inertia of the status quo is a motherf***er.

And for any economists in the forum...yes, that means 90% of the theory your discipline is based on is completely worthless.

 

[jbeck5]

Historical precedent. If public drinking had always been legal people would riot if the gov tried to change it to being illegal (See Kingdom, United).

Same way that if guns were just invented today they would be immediately banned tomorrow. And people would unanimously agree with that decision.

Same way that people love karlsson until he's traded and then shit on him afterwards.

People have very illogical preferences and the inertia of the status quo is a motherf***er.

And for any economists in the forum...yes, that means 90% of the theory your discipline is based on is completely worthless.

I get that, but we change laws all the time.

Weed was illegal until most people realized most people use weed no different than alcohol and that adults should be able to have freedoms...if adults brake other laws while intoxicated, they will take care of those, but you're free to simply smoke weed.

Drinking in public could lead to crime, but most people realize most people drinking alcohol in the streets will behave the same way they do in other situations when they have alcohol which is pretty tame. The bad apples that will commit crime will be dealt with.

 

[dumbdick]

I get that, but we change laws all the time.

Weed was illegal until most people realized most people use weed no different than alcohol and that adults should be able to have freedoms...if adults brake other laws while intoxicated, they will take care of those, but you're free to simply smoke weed.

Drinking in public could lead to crime, but most people realize most people drinking alcohol in the streets will behave the same way they do in other situations when they have alcohol which is pretty tame. The bad apples that will commit crime will be dealt with.

I agree 100%.

But just look how long weed took. We don't change these laws all the time.

And weed is pretty obviously less harmful than alcohol.

I'm not saying they shouldn't change it. But I aint gonna hold my breath.

 

[jbeck5]

I agree 100%.

But just look how long weed took. We don't change these laws all the time.

And weed is pretty obviously less harmful than alcohol.

I'm not saying they shouldn't change it. But I aint gonna hold my breath.

I agree it's less harmful.

But that double standard still exists...like on 89.9 the other day they were talking about how excited they were to get home and try a bottle of wine...or talking about when they go out drinking and would go get fast food...or hangovers.

I never hear radio hosts saying they can't wait to get home to rip a bong hit...or that on Friday they did edibles and got so high that they ate a whole bag of family size Doritos.

There's still a double standard...and yet, we legalized weed almost a decade ago.

So I'm saying they could change laws to allow public drinking even if media isn't quite ready for it. The majority of common sense young adults would be ok with it. They already have projects for open drinking parks and the pilots are going great.


I remember when the stones came to perform at Lansdowne...all the parents (teachers, principals, doctors, lawyers, government managers and directors) ...very successful people in the community, were all emptying coke cans to fill with wine so they could do the 20 minute walk from somewhere in the Glebe to the venue and have a pre-drink. This was what, 2003? The world has been ready for public drinking for decades. It's dumb that it hasn't been a cheap easy mention on a platform to get votes.

 

[OD99]

I will also say that in my travels to other countries it is so nice to see a group of people gather in a park, after work with a 6 pack, or see a couple on the shores of some waterway with a bottle of wine.

There is nothing shady going on, people aren't looking to get blitzed, they are just casually enjoying their city while also enjoying a beverage.

As for a tailgate at CTC. They sort of do that with the outdoor tent and beer hall before games. The reality is that:

1. The location sucks. Even the parking isn't ideal to set up a community space to gather

2. The weather sucks. Who wants to set up a BBQ in the dark at 4pm on a Tuesday while the wind howls?

3. The location sucks (again). Maybe having a couple pregame is OK, but with the majority of fans driving a fair distance after the game, it is hard to create a party atmosphere.

Let's make the playoffs and see what happens. One of my best Senators memories is a pregame with 15 friends before the Habs game where we beat them on the ice and in the alley. We also started the "Pageau!" chant. True story.

 

[maclean]

Historical precedent. If public drinking had always been legal people would riot if the gov tried to change it to being illegal (See Kingdom, United).

Same way that if guns were just invented today they would be immediately banned tomorrow. And people would unanimously agree with that decision.

Same way that people love karlsson until he's traded and then shit on him afterwards.

People have very illogical preferences and the inertia of the status quo is a motherf***er.

And for any economists in the forum...yes, that means 90% of the theory your discipline is based on is completely worthless.

It's definitely historical precedent, but a side aspect of that that the authorities are worried about (above and beyond the loss of revenues which will always be motivation number one) is again - see United Kingdom. They had pubs only open till eleven, then when they did away with that, the people went crazy because they were used to having to cram a whole night's drinking into the brief period between going out and last call. We can leave some leeway for the absolute dumbness that is English culture, but Canada is the offspring of that, so.. That said, I think society is ready for it, and I think they've proven it. Off-site bottle sales have worked, as mentioned park drinking has not led to utter chaos