Player Discussion Tage Thompson 2

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
I dont disagree - he has been getting to the slot much more this season as opposed to previous ones. Shot charts show he is scoring between the dots, getting in tight and using his release to beat goalies.

Surprisingly, his PP spot by the left dot has not been that effective in him scoring goals. We've seen him flub plenty of setups for one timers.

Thompson's shooting% is high for the league average. To your point, he might simply be getting higher quality shots and scoring as a result. That's where I think teams will make it harder for him to reach his area next season - keeping him out of the center line between the dots. If he is forced to shoot from the outside/by the dots, he will drop in production.

I love Tage, I think he is a unicorn and should be a 30-30 guy from here on out. But he has a spot - and teams will hone in on it as they see more tape of Thompson in the offseason. It will be interesting if tage is able to improve on scoring from the dots. If he can, sky is the limit.

ive not seen any sort of chart that shows goals scored from.

i think most of them have been in the danger area trapezoid from the face off spots to the posts.

as I said above he was something like 9-7-16 in first 30 games which I think went to the Covid/ Xmas break. After that’s he’s above ppg.

idont know what match ups he’s gotten. I think playing in line 1 has given them harder matchups which would lower road ES stats.
 
ive not seen any sort of chart that shows goals scored from.

i think most of them have been in the danger area trapezoid from the face off spots to the posts.

as I said above he was something like 9-7-16 in first 30 games which I think went to the Covid/ Xmas break. After that’s he’s above ppg.

idont know what match ups he’s gotten. I think playing in line 1 has given them harder matchups which would lower road ES stats.

Here ya' go:

1650384421746.png
 
You don't see as many shots like that from right in the slot. He goes to the slot or gets to the slot. And the way he can move a puck from in his feet to his blade and then release is elite. He's a really dangerous shooter. I have to imagine Tage with that long stick and his being able to release from anywhere has to really challenge goalies - how many others can do that in the league?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Doug Prishpreed
You don't see as many shots like that from right in the slot. He goes to the slot or gets to the slot. And the way he can move a puck from in his feet to his blade and then release is elite. He's a really dangerous shooter. I have to imagine Tage with that long stick and his being able to release from anywhere has to really challenge goalies - how many others can do that in the league?
Its certainly an anomaly skill. To be able to receive a pass 15 feet in front of the goalie and rip a snap shot past them is something most NHL players cannot replicate. Which is why I think teams will work to actively box Thompson out of that area next season. If he can put up numbers working the perimeter, shooting from the dots or backing out towards the blue line a little more.... watch out. If he cant build into his game, I think he still works as a 30-30 guy long term.
 
Its certainly an anomaly skill. To be able to receive a pass 15 feet in front of the goalie and rip a snap shot past them is something most NHL players cannot replicate. Which is why I think teams will work to actively box Thompson out of that area next season. If he can put up numbers working the perimeter, shooting from the dots or backing out towards the blue line a little more.... watch out. If he cant build into his game, I think he still works as a 30-30 guy long term.

Even if they are trying to keep him out of that area on the cycle, plenty of his goals are on the rush where that strategy isn't as easy to accomplish. It seems like they are very much a rush oriented attack at the moment and that is going to allow him freedom to keep getting into the slot area.
 
Even if they are trying to keep him out of that area on the cycle, plenty of his goals are on the rush where that strategy isn't as easy to accomplish. It seems like they are very much a rush oriented attack at the moment and that is going to allow him freedom to keep getting into the slot area.
I agree - if teams defend the middle of the ice more effectively next year, I still think he is a 30 goal guy. But if he can develop that deadliness around the circles and the perimeter, teams will have to give him the space in the middle and he could be a 40+ guy.

A good problem to have!
 
Even with his ability to get to the front of the net, he is still outproducing his xG by 14 goals from those two charts. So some amount of sliding back (30 goals or slightly below that) may be in the cards for him.
 
Even with his ability to get to the front of the net, he is still outproducing his xG by 14 goals from those two charts. So some amount of sliding back (30 goals or slightly below that) may be in the cards for him.
I don’t know if we can project Tage. He’s actually getting better. He has 22 goals the second half of the season. He’s got one of those shots that is elite. His confidence is through the roof but could go even higher. His strong finish will carry him over to the offseason and I think he’s going to be better next year. Extremely motivated. I think with Tage it’s all about shot generation. If he’s top 15 in shots like he’s been the second half of the season then he’s going to score a lot.

I’m predicting 40 goals next year.
 
Last edited:

The Tuesday Athletic Hockey Show are Don Granato Stans and this is a good interview with Tage.

Custance: It’s funny, because there’s all these generalizations people want to make about big hockey players. You’re 6-foot-7, so people wanted to say, “Oh, this guy is going to develop into a power forward.” I heard that about you in your draft year. This is how it’s gonna go for Tage Thompson. But with you, when you talk to people or you read things, it’s vision. It’s intelligence. It’s not the prototypical 6-foot-7 kind of descriptions. How much of that is being a coach’s son and having that coach’s kid mentality?

Thompson: One-hundred percent. I think the majority of it is that. Another piece is that I wasn’t always the biggest kid. I was a late bloomer. Like, big time. I was 6-foot-1, 160 at the program.

And then I went in the next year at college at 6-foot-4, 185. So I grew three inches over the summer and put on 25 pounds. Then I think I grew another inch the next season. When I turned pro, I grew another two inches. You keep growing, and you start to get comfortable with your skating, and then you grow a little bit (more), and you’re like, “Oh, I feel weird.” And then you gotta keep adjusting.

I finally stopped growing. The weight started to come on. I’m feeling comfortable in my body. When I’d been younger, I’d always been the smaller, skilled guy on the team. I wasn’t a guy that would run around and use his body. I was still learning how to use that part of my game. I’m still learning how to use my body in certain situations to benefit me. But when I was younger, I relied more on my hockey sense and my skill to create plays and get open. That’s something that’s stuck with me. It’s something that I have now, plus the size. I think learning how to combine those two will be nothing but a benefit for me.

Gentille: How much of that happened during offseason? Was there a summer where you came back and were like, “Oh, shit. I have to relearn everything.” How do you adjust whenever you make those jumps?

Thompson: I think the biggest focus was just making sure that I’m continually working on my skating, working on the mechanics on my stride so I can always fall back on that. I think the biggest thing with the skating, as you grow, is the strength. You’ve got to continue to build strength as you get taller, because your center of gravity is changing. And I think as long as I had that foundation for my stride and continued to work on the mechanics, that was a big focus for me. Obviously the weightlifting, too. But it just seemed like no matter what I did in the gym, the weight just wouldn’t come on. And I feel like the past couple of years now, it’s starting to (stick).

This part of Tage talking about the challenges of growing into his body and putting on muscle was really interesting.

Having Granato move him to center and finally getting to the point where he has grown into his body lined up perfectly.
 
Last edited:
I don’t know if we can project Tage. He’s actually getting better. He has 22 goals the second half of the season. He’s got one of those shots that is elite. His confidence is through the roof but could go even higher. His strong finish will carry him over to the offseason and I think he’s going to be better next year. Extremely motivated. I think with Tage it’s all about shot generation. If he’s top 15 in shots like he’s been the second half of the season then he’s going to score a lot.

I’m predicting 40 goals next year.

I agree - plus he'll have a full season under his belt as a full-time center. He's basically still (re)learning the position and doing it on the first line in the NHL and with a lot of success.
 
I would be wary of predicting another big leap for Thompson next season.

It could happen. But, I would be happy just to pencil in 30-35 goals & 55-60 points.

Just as Jeff Skinner has had up and down production throughout his career, it won't surprise me if Thompson doesn't have another career year next season. Especially if Skinner and Thompson play a lot together next season and it is a down season for Skinner.
 
I would be wary of predicting another big leap for Thompson next season.

It could happen. But, I would be happy just to pencil in 30-35 goals & 55-60 points.

Just as Jeff Skinner has had up and down production throughout his career, it won't surprise me if Thompson doesn't have another career year next season. Especially if Skinner and Thompson play a lot together next season and it is a down season for Skinner.
I never really looked until now but Skinner has never posted back to back 30 goal seasons in his career, even though he has now had 5 of them. I'm definitely interested in seeing how he does next season to see if he can finally do it.
 
You don't see as many shots like that from right in the slot. He goes to the slot or gets to the slot. And the way he can move a puck from in his feet to his blade and then release is elite. He's a really dangerous shooter. I have to imagine Tage with that long stick and his being able to release from anywhere has to really challenge goalies - how many others can do that in the league?
More than once he's used his feet to kick the puck up to his stick sometimes, and takes a quick shot. He might practice that.
 
I would be wary of predicting another big leap for Thompson next season.

It could happen. But, I would be happy just to pencil in 30-35 goals & 55-60 points.

Just as Jeff Skinner has had up and down production throughout his career, it won't surprise me if Thompson doesn't have another career year next season. Especially if Skinner and Thompson play a lot together next season and it is a down season for Skinner.
I don’t think Skinner has been that up and down. Eliminate the Krueger years and he’s posted 28, 37, 24, 40, Krueger, Krueger, and 31.

Skinner will likely be around 30 goals if he gets the ice time.
 
I don’t think Skinner has been that up and down. Eliminate the Krueger years and he’s posted 28, 37, 24, 40, Krueger, Krueger, and 31.

Skinner will likely be around 30 goals if he gets the ice time.
28, 37, 24, 40 isn't up and down? That is an average swing of 13 goals season to season.

I want to see Skinner get back-to-back 30+ goal seasons before I expect it to happen given how his career has gone.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Chainshot
I would be wary of predicting another big leap for Thompson next season.

It could happen. But, I would be happy just to pencil in 30-35 goals & 55-60 points.

Just as Jeff Skinner has had up and down production throughout his career, it won't surprise me if Thompson doesn't have another career year next season. Especially if Skinner and Thompson play a lot together next season and it is a down season for Skinner.

there is always fluctuation in goal production fir various reasons.

you see with all goal scorers if they avg 25-35. They are going to have a couple 40+ seasons and they may have years below 20 due to lines/ usage/ injury. If the lines are the same and still producing at the same clip it’s fine…it doesn’t matter who the scorers are.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dingo44
28, 37, 24, 40 isn't up and down? That is an average swing of 13 goals season to season.

I want to see Skinner get back-to-back 30+ goal seasons before I expect it to happen given how his career has gone.

have to look deeper at things like line changes, injury, PP time and look at how scoring was on the lines and see things like goal production at ES thst feeds + in. +/-
 
28, 37, 24, 40 isn't up and down? That is an average swing of 13 goals season to season.

I want to see Skinner get back-to-back 30+ goal seasons before I expect it to happen given how his career has gone.
So 29 would be considered a down year? His shot % in his 24 year was also much lower than the other years.

If 30 goals is the objective then he’s likely to be right around 30 based on his history. Also based on his history he will peak to around 40 goals.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dingo44
28, 37, 24, 40 isn't up and down? That is an average swing of 13 goals season to season.

I want to see Skinner get back-to-back 30+ goal seasons before I expect it to happen given how his career has gone.

What about 30, 27, 23, 23, 29. 27. 46. 34, 27, 44, 33, 15, 25? That's Patrick Kane.

Or 24, 30, 18, 24, 36, 18, 19, 38? Johnny Gaudreau.

36, 44, 30, 28. 12, 26 - Patrick Laine.

23, 51, 45, 60, 29, 25, 43, 36, 27, 45, 29, 17, 33 - Stamkos.

How many goal scores don't fluctuate from year to year? Mike Bossy?
 
What about 30, 27, 23, 23, 29. 27. 46. 34, 27, 44, 33, 15, 25? That's Patrick Kane.

Or 24, 30, 18, 24, 36, 18, 19, 38? Johnny Gaudreau.

36, 44, 30, 28. 12, 26 - Patrick Laine.

23, 51, 45, 60, 29, 25, 43, 36, 27, 45, 29, 17, 33 - Stamkos.

How many goal scores don't fluctuate from year to year? Mike Bossy?
That is my point.

People are expecting production to remain where it is or improve next season when the odds say that a regression in production is just as likely as an increase.
 
That is my point.

People are expecting production to remain where it is or improve next season when the odds say that a regression in production is just as likely as an increase.

But that's not really your point. People are saying we should be able to expect Skinner to be at least 25+ based on his track record when he's not coached by an idiot. It could be 25, or it could be 40 again with a full season with improved players and a center who isn't in his first year playing center in a professional league. With your glass-half-empty (you'd call it realistic but you'd be wrong) view, what do you expect out of Skinner next year? Sure, everything could go wrong, but that would have to be the case for him to not pot 25+ based on his past performance.
 
On the one hand, I sort of expect Tage to backslide a little next year. That's pretty natural. This year just seems too good to be true. OTOH, he should be more comfortable at center, more comfortable in the league, more comfortable with his body AND will have a full year of playing with Tuch. Also, the whole team should be better, which should help him. So who knows.
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad