GDT: Tag Team GDT #2 - Bruins @ Devils, 7 PM, MSGSN2

[haak84]

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Queue Spider-Man pointing at each other meme.

Blackwood is kinkaid. Kinkaid is Blackwood. Shitty Schneider is in the picture as well.

 

[StevensRocks]

Asked @Devils090 3 times, he chickened out.


The moral of my story. Hard work pays off. Anyone who works hard in life, even in defeat, during tough times, will see the light at the end of the tunnel, sooner than later.

I look to a Devils message board for the meaning of life

 

[jkrdevil]

One thing I've learned from my goals reviews is that not every goalie that's bad looks bad and not every goalie that looks bad is really as bad as he looks (Mike Smith's last two years stick out). I mean, Korpisalo doesn't look like that bad of a goalie to me most years, but he constantly is outplayed by the other goalie on his team almost every season and by a significant amount.

There's a lot of guessing, there's a lot of mental that goes into this position. So there's definitely a lot of goals that it doesn't look like the goalie has a shot on, but that he probably really does. Jonathan Quick in current times is the best example of this. Martin Jones at times is as well. There's a lot of goals on Quick where he has no chance, but since he spends A LOT of the game on his ass and break dancing in the crease, most goalies are calm and collected and playing in their net and those shots are saves on them. While they look like no chance goals on Quick because he's sliding around and catapulting himself all over the place while the pucks are going into empty nets.

So back to Blackwood, yeah, a lot of these goals that don't look bad on him, probably really are.

These 4 goal on 18 shot games and really wasn't it like 4 goals on 9 or 10 shots at one point? These happen A LOT on Blackwood. They happened in 2020-2021, they happened a lot in 2021-2022, they're still happening in 2022-2023. They were happening in the AHL a lot in 2017-2019.

They happen to Vitek sometimes but not with this much regularity. They'd happen to Schmid if you gave him more games, but probably not this much. They didn't even happen to Daws with this much regularity, and Daws certainly was not an NHL ready goalie last year.

Yes, they happened to Gillies, they happened to Hammond. But guess what? Those goalies are for the AHL (actually Hammond is for some retirement league now), which might very well be where Blackwood is for.

quoting this because I can only like it once

 

[NjDevsRR]

I look to a Devils message board for the meaning of life

You and others acting like the team playing well even in defeat, is meaningless is an absolute joke.

Reeks of Verucka from WONKA.

Dont. Care. How. I want it now….

Childish stuff.

 

[glenwo2]

quoting this because I can only like it once

I liked this post because you quoted his post as a 2nd like.

 

[MadDevil]

It's kind of a shitty comparison anyway given Kinkaid was a backup for several years and put up better numbers than Blackwood. It was really the last two years (outside of that ridiculous hot streak he had down the stretch in 2017-18) when he had to play more where he was really bad.

 

[haak84]

my favorite quote “don’t confuse effort with result” will apply to this team at some point. It’s not right now. They’re developing and showed they can dominate the lesser half teams in the league. They will need to learn to win Tough games or when the puck doesn’t go their way. Fortunately, I don’t think they will have to learn right away because they can out skate any team which is a huge advantage. Once the new crop of young fast inexperience teams enter the arena is when they will need to use their experience to win.

 

[Bleedred]

Goalie a is Blackwood.
Goalie b is Kinkaid.

I was too busy making other pieces roasting Blackwood, but I think you know I would have gotten this right away.

At this point the organization needs to treat Blackwood like Kinkaid in his last year and give him a sendoff. Kinkaid was much less further removed from a solid stretch of play when we departed with him than Blackwood currently is.

Now, Kinkaid was 29 years old and I know he had no ceiling, so I certainly understand treating Blackwood a little bit differently. Blackwood's ceiling was always much higher than Kinkaid's. But it doesn't look like he will ever reach that ceiling. The odds are heavily stacked against him ever reaching that ceiling. And the elite upside comment is absolutely false. How many ELITE NHL goalies have we ever seen that had not shown any flashes of ELITE by 26 years old? Blackwood showed it for 3 months and has been close to unplayable ever since. That was three years ago now. I guess if he played like he did in December 2019-February 2020 that was elite, but that's 3 years ago now.

Unless they're over playing in another league overseas, you don't see goalies in North American leagues become elite while looking this awful at ages 24-26, on top of his lousy mediocre AHL career.

What was Vasilevskiy doing at 26? What was Igor doing at 26? I think they were winning Vezina's/and or cups. Do I have to get into Brodeur? Roy? Belfour? Luongo? Lundqvist? How about Jonathan Quick? Rask? Nope. There was Hasek, but we all know why he wasn't playing in the NHL earlier than he was. Tim Thomas is the best example.

Kuemper had a surge in his late 20's and was pretty meh before then, but I don't think he ever had a stretch like Blackwood is currently having at that age.

In 2016, Michael McLeod had a MUCH higher ceiling than Jesper Bratt, but that don't mean shit in 2023, now does it?

Goalies like Blackwood will probably get a few more years worth of chances in the league, due to his age and ceiling, but it's very possible he has an even less remarkable NHL career than Keith Kinkaid did.

 

[glenwo2]

my favorite quote “don’t confuse effort with result” will apply to this team at some point. It’s not right now. They’re developing and showed they can dominate the lesser half teams in the league. They will need to learn to win Tough games or when the puck doesn’t go their way. Fortunately, I don’t think they will have to learn right away because they can out skate any team which is a huge advantage. Once the new crop of young fast inexperience teams enter the arena is when they will need to use their experience to win.

The thing is that if they didn't have a sieve at Goaltender tonight, they might have won a Tough game.

That's the most frustrating thing about tonight.

 

[StevensRocks]

Generally, I'm not happy, ever, starting a 3rd period down by 3.

 

[jkrdevil]

At least Kinkaid actually helped us at one point.

 

[Eggtimer]

So back to Blackwood, yeah, a lot of these goals that don't look bad on him, probably really are.

This. I think other goalies would make some of the goals he let in look like routine saves or at least a make the save. He was Waaayyyyyy off his angle / not square Amd lost his net and was way too far in his net (almost on the goal line ) on Pasta’s one goal to the top corner.
Then the pass to Severson at Mach 2 was a dumb play , then he overplayed the initial shot , then lost his stick and could not poke the puck off of Pasta , then once again overplays the move by pasta whe he would have been in a good spot if he just stayed I. The butterfly or if he wasn’t having to panic from getting way too far out of position on the original play.
He is making routine saves hard for himself and is making goals look like they are not stoppable when other goalies would have made routine saves by being in proper position , nkt givig up rebounds and beig square to the play and challenging off the goal line and not too deep.
Same thing in the Panthers game . He simply not in position and had a huge gap in between himself at the post . He was sleeping on the play and once again was late to react then once he did ,he didn’t get square to the play. It’s like he has mental focus issues where he is not set and ready in time and does nkt thunk the game well enough. He is pure reactionary and that’s not good enough. His athleticism lets him make some nice saves sometimes but then his lack of beig able to read and anticipate is nkt good enough . He should have somewhat anticipated the shot form Pasta tonight ( top corner ) He shoild be able to read that pasta was goig blocker side with nkw he angled his stick . He should have been wayyyy over to his right more. This is just one example,e of MANY shit reads or lack of reads by Blackwood .

Simply put , Blackwood has good athleticism but his lack of hockey IQ reading the play and anticipating plus lack of focus equals not good enough.

 

[jkrdevil]

The thing is that if they didn't have a sieve at Goaltender tonight, they might have won a Tough game.

That's the most frustrating thing about tonight.

They scored three goals vs the best defensive team in the league! That should be enough to get points out of the game.

 

[Bleedred]

This. I think other goalies would make some of the goals he let in look like routine saves or at least a make the save. He was Waaayyyyyy off his angle / not square Amd lost his net and was way too far in his net (almost on the goal line ) on Pasta’s one goal to the top corner.
Then the pass to Severson at Mach 2 was a dumb play , then he overplayed the initial shot , then lost his stick and could not poke the puck off of Pasta , then once again overplays the move by pasta whe he would have been in a good spot if he just stayed I. The butterfly or if he wasn’t having to panic from getting way too far out of position on the original play.
He is making routine saves hard for himself and is making goals look like they are not stoppable when other goalies would have made routine saves by being in proper position , nkt givig up rebounds and beig square to the play and challenging off the goal line and not too deep.
Same thing in the Panthers game . He simply not in position and had a huge gap in between himself at the post . He was sleeping on the play and once again was late to react then once he did ,he didn’t get square to the play. It’s like he has mental focus issues where he is not set and ready in time and does nkt thunk the game well enough. He is pure reactionary and that’s not good enough. His athleticism lets him make some nice saves sometimes but then his lack of beig able to read and anticipate is nkt good enough . He should have somewhat anticipated the shot form Pasta tonight ( top corner ) He shoild be able to read that pasta was goig blocker side with nkw he angled his stick . He should have been wayyyy over to his right more. This is just one example,e of MANY shit reads or lack of reads by Blackwood .

Simply put , Blackwood has good athleticism but his lack of hockey IQ reading the play and anticipating plus lack of focus equals not good enough.

For some reason he's also been losing his stick on goals against him the last two games.

First goal against Florida and one of the others tonight.

Not sure if that was just bad luck two games in a row and someone took it out from him or what. Maybe a teammate?

Martin Jones is a DUMB goalie in my book. Doesn't even always give up weak ass goals that you could easily pick out as bad, but gives up a goals at a way higher rate than an average goalie in the league.

Blackwood actually does fail the eye test and gives up a lot goals that look weak though.

And honestly, he gets screened by the most measly little thing. EVERYTHING is a screen on him.

 

[NjDevsRR]

They scored three goals vs the best defensive team in the league! That should be enough to get points out of the game.

Ehhh, not when Boston averages 3.9 goals a game lol. Thats how GOOD they are. But us being the better team tonight is big. Goaltending was the difference. Goaltender needs to be a difference maker when facing a powerhouse team. When the goalie is a detriment, little chance. Even though they managed to make it a game.

 

[Bleedred]

At least Kinkaid actually helped us at one point.

The thing with Kinkaid was also that I don't think I ever expected much from him other than to be a backup.

Kinkaid, like your typical backup, was inconsistent from year to year and play greatly fluctuated. And this type of goalie doesn't have a very long shelf life in the NHL. They're usually out of the league around 30 and if they're not, they usually got a late start, like Scott Clemmensen, Carter Hutton, Curtis McElhinney and did it in reverse.

Blackwood has been very consistent in both halves of his career. Two solid years in a row to start, now 3 really BAD years in a row to (hopefully) finish as a Devil.

Blackwood needs 5 more wins to pass Keith Kinkaid for wins as a Devil lol. Looks like a tall order at this point.

If he gets 5 more wins this year then it probably means he got more starts than he should have or the almost impossible happens and he does a total 180.

It doesn't sound like if Ruff has anything to do with it that Blackwood is gonna get many more chances.

He threw the guy under bus, without really throwing him under the bus too badly. In the most polite way as possible and without absolving the blame of the skaters.

He basically said f*** him without saying f*** him tonight in his presser.

 

[glenwo2]

At least Kinkaid actually helped us at one point.

I take at least partial credit for that :

 

[Bleedred]

Ruff knows his job is in real danger if we fall out of a playoff spot

I think he's seeing the writing on the wall that they can't afford too many more of these ''Let's see what we have with Blackwood'' or ''Let's try and tap some of that potential out of him'' type of starts.

He mentioned in the presser something about the first thing they need to do is figure out a ''Schedule'' with the goaltending. When I first heard this I had a mini meltdown, as he said this before he really started critiquing and ripping Blackwood.

It's super wishful thinking on my part, but I wonder if that ''Schedule'' means a trip to either Utica or Arizona for Blackwood and a recall of Schmid?

Either way, it doesn't feel like we're very far from that happening, even if it's not that soon.

 

[mdj12784]

Who were the other goalies before BLACKWOOD snapped a 5 game LOSING streak??

 

[Bleedred]

Who were the other goalies before BLACKWOOD snapped a 5 game LOSING streak??

OHHH he snapped a 5 game losing streak. WHHOOPPPPEEEEEE!!!!!

Yeah that one game means more than his entire body of work since February of 2021!

Better yet, where was his sorry ass when the team was on a 13 game winning streak? How many of those wins did he have on that streak?

There was a stretch where he had like half or was it even two/thirds of our total regulation losses to that point and he had already been out for a few weeks at that point.

So I don't give two f***s about one game played by a goalie that's done much more bad than good over the last 2 years.

 

[mdj12784]

OHHH he snapped a 5 game losing streak. WHHOOPPPPEEEEEE!!!!!

Yeah that one game means more than his entire body of work since February of 2021!

Better yet, where was his sorry ass when the team was on a 13 game winning streak? How many of those wins did he have on that streak?

There was a stretch where he had like half or was it even two/thirds of our total regulation losses to that point and he had already been out for a few weeks at that point.

So I don't give two f***s about one game played by a goalie that's done much more bad than good over the last 2 years.

You need serious counseling. You’re not changing reality with obsessive rants on a fan hockey board. Fans. If you knew as much as you think you know, you’d have a league job. You’re no expert buddy.

 

[Bleedred]

You need serious counseling. You’re not changing reality with obsessive rants on a fan hockey board. Fans. If you knew as much as you think you know, you’d have a league job. You’re no expert buddy.

That’s your rebuttal. Okay.

That does it.

I don’t know what I’m talking about Blackwood doesn’t actually suck.

After my counseling sessions I will seriously believe this.

By the way, you don’t have to be an expert to know Blackwood sucks.

As a matter of fact, the goalie coaches around the league and the rest of the teams coaching staffs know he sucks. They know a lot better than I do. You don’t think they’re meeting with the players about how bad of a goalie they’re facing tonight?

They know all of his weaknesses. They have a lot more data than we can ever imagine.

The jig is up. He sucks.

 

[Satans Hockey]

What the f*** is with this BOZO's sudden speech impediment? He didn't have that when he first came up.

Let me guess, tongue/mouth injury that's giving him constant pain and that's why he's playing poorly now?

Smokeless tobacco his given him a tongue ailment?

That's the next excuse.

He's the purest human embodiment of the lights are on but nobody's home.

I have to say what a stand up guy Ruff is. I’m not saying the greatest coach but what a fine presser there. Honest and straightforward and on point. “You’d like to get a couple of those saves.” And the genuine Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays.” Appreciation for the fans. I just can’t fail to like Lindy Ruff. Even his patience with some of the stupid questions.

“What you’re asking me is, is it discouraging when you don’t score on your chances and they score on theirs.” LoL. Touché journalist. Very succinctly put.

He won me over as a person with how he took the booing because he knew it was warranted and understood the fans frustration of seeing shit after shit season.

 

[Satans Hockey]

You need serious counseling. You’re not changing reality with obsessive rants on a fan hockey board. Fans. If you knew as much as you think you know, you’d have a league job. You’re no expert buddy.

Do you see how half the clowns in front offices run most of these teams? Half these guys are dumb as a box of bricks and are only there because it's all about who you know and it's a good old boys club. It's why the carousel of the same shit coaches/gms somehow manage to stick around for ages who don't deserve jobs.

 

[Bleedred]

If there’s one thing I think I won’t need to rant on anymore it’s that Ruff might really think Blackwood is better than he is.

Tonight’s presser was pretty much a more realistic and toned down version of what I posted was the only acceptable answer to why Blackwood was pulled.

“Yeah, I pulled him. I also heard Vitek chants in the crowd, so I'm giving those people what they want. He SUCKS. HE STUNK! He didn't give us enough saves. He never gives us enough saves. You're never gonna see the motherf***in bastard again, at least not in our NHL team's jersey. He won't play another god damn second here, so I shut him down one period early to save you the trouble of getting another look at him and put it out its misery before. Good night everybody, have a merry f***in Christmas and enjoy the rest of the Hanukkah season! The organization is gonna give you a LOVELY PRESENT AFTER THE FREEZE!''

He seriously almost did exactly that, without being so blunt and all the expletives and being much more polite and respectful, including to Blackwood as a human.

The whole “Schedule for the goalies” quote and it being the first thing they’ll look at or whatever he said, really teases a potential Schmid recall.

I wonder if we could call Schmid up without waiving Blackwood? Would it work cap wise? If it does I could see that happening.