U18: Sweden 2025 U18 Team

[Predatore]

10-2 win vs Canada West, Frondell hattrick.

I believed they changed that to give Stenberg the hattrick instead.

(the hockeycanada website usually correct/change their boxscores several hours post game. quite unreliable during and just after the game)

 

[theslatcher]

3 shorthanded goals, 3 powerplay, 4 5v5. SOG 38-18, Canada having 7 PP's.

That's a paddlin'.

 

[Eye of Ra]

I was already looking forward to u18 wjc
Now im even more excited.

 

[Predatore]

It’s pretty funny to see how clueless some Swedish fans are on social media commenting the 10-2 win over Canada. Canada probably has 200 players they could have dressed that are better than these guys, seeing as they excluded all players from OHL, WHL and QMJHL.

With that said, still a nice win…I guess

 

[erikhamren]

It’s pretty funny to see how clueless some Swedish fans are on social media commenting the 10-2 win over Canada. Canada probably has 200 players they could have dressed that are better than these guys, seeing as they excluded all players from OHL, WHL and QMJHL.

With that said, still a nice win…I guess

lmao. Theres no coverage on this tournament so i dont put to much blame on them, i havent read the comments but it wouldnt suprise me if the majority of the comments are from 60-70 year olds

 

[theslatcher]

It’s pretty funny to see how clueless some Swedish fans are on social media commenting the 10-2 win over Canada. Canada probably has 200 players they could have dressed that are better than these guys, seeing as they excluded all players from OHL, WHL and QMJHL.

With that said, still a nice win…I guess

Well, yeah.

Have to remember that the others bring U19 teams, and compare this to last year.

The 2006's won 2 out of 6 games, while Frondell was their best player. It just goes to show how much better the 07's are.

 

[BearNorth]

Well, yeah.

Have to remember that the others bring U19 teams, and compare this to last year.

The 2006's won 2 out of 6 games, while Frondell was their best player. It just goes to show how much better the 07's are.

When was the last time we had such a good agegroup as the 07 one?

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

5-3 win vs USA after strong 3rd period.

 

[theslatcher]

When was the last time we had such a good agegroup as the 07 one?

The 07's might just be the strongest age group so far?

The 02's and 04's were fantastic as well, but they had certain flaws that are not there with the 07's. Only thing the 07's are missing are truly top-end D, but they have some great depth on D.

 

[Gazewithin]

When was the last time we had such a good agegroup as the 07 one?

They probably look the strongest in recent memory as of right now, but it's so early. It's also heavily dependant on criteria. Is it success as a team internationally? Is it based on amount of interesting players long term? Amount of 1st rounders/1st round talents? Or based on the absolute top players who became great NHL players?


We look at the 02 group now as a strong group, but that's mostly because William Eklund ended up becoming a great prospect and now NHL player, and added to Raymond(and potentially Wallstedt).
04s got great international results at the big stages, and we will have a bunch of NHL players from that age group, but aside from Carlsson I'm not convinced that any of them is going to end up very high end(and if so, at best one of them).
So in retrospect, I think it will mostly come down to how players like Frondell and Stenberg end up in a couple years, maybe with the addition of one or two more players if we are fortunate. But it's always easy to look right before they start their real attempts at professional hockey to believe that many players are going to end up great, when realistically very few of these guys will become that noteworthy in the end.

Wouldn't be surprised if we get more SHL/Allsvenskan players than usual from this group. But as of right now I think there are two players that are clear super talents, then there are a couple good ones(my boy Eric Nilsson probably deserves a individual shoutout), and then a lot of interesting players. Which is fun, and makes for good depth internationally. But if certain players don't turn out the right way we will pretty quickly forget this and move on, so...

EDIT:To briefly add on, when this group started to get very hyped already during the 21-22 season, it was partly for players that are now already losing steam compared to their peers, and it feels like a lot of people are still holding onto that hype. Keep in mind that some of the more interesting players now were not at the top of the list back then.

 

[theslatcher]

They probably look the strongest in recent memory as of right now, but it's so early. It's also heavily dependant on criteria. Is it success as a team internationally? Is it based on amount of interesting players long term? Amount of 1st rounders/1st round talents? Or based on the absolute top players who became great NHL players?


We look at the 02 group now as a strong group, but that's mostly because William Eklund ended up becoming a great prospect and now NHL player, and added to Raymond(and potentially Wallstedt).
04s got great international results at the big stages, and we will have a bunch of NHL players from that age group, but aside from Carlsson I'm not convinced that any of them is going to end up very high end(and if so, at best one of them).
So in retrospect, I think it will mostly come down to how players like Frondell and Stenberg end up in a couple years, maybe with the addition of one or two more players if we are fortunate. But it's always easy to look right before they start their real attempts at professional hockey to believe that many players are going to end up great, when realistically very few of these guys will become that noteworthy in the end.

Wouldn't be surprised if we get more SHL/Allsvenskan players than usual from this group. But as of right now I think there are two players that are clear super talents, then there are a couple good ones(my boy Eric Nilsson probably deserves a individual shoutout), and then a lot of interesting players. Which is fun, and makes for good depth internationally. But if certain players don't turn out the right way we will pretty quickly forget this and move on, so...

No, the 02's were looked at as a very strong class quite early and that kept going into their draft. If anything, they're looked at as worse now.

Funny thing is they were in a similar position as the 07's, coming off a bad group in the 01's (who in retrospect look even worse now!) where the best 02's were already better than the 01's.

 

[Eye of Ra]

And why did Canada do that. ?

It’s pretty funny to see how clueless some Swedish fans are on social media commenting the 10-2 win over Canada. Canada probably has 200 players they could have dressed that are better than these guys, seeing as they excluded all players from OHL, WHL and QMJHL.

With that said, still a nice win…I guess

 

[Gazewithin]

No, the 02's were looked at as a very strong class quite early and that kept going into their draft. If anything, they're looked at as worse now.

Funny thing is they were in a similar position as the 07's, coming off a bad group in the 01's (who in retrospect look even worse now!) where the best 02's were already better than the 01's.

You are completely misunderstanding my point. Obviously the 02s had very early hype, but I'm pretty confident that people would not retroactively bring up the strength of the 02 class was if there were not multiple players turning into good professional players

If people in 20 years do a list of the best swedish birthyears in hockey, they wouldn't pick the 02 group because Holtz was a man amongst boys at 14, or because Wallstedt played at X level at Y age, etc. they will look at the 02 group and go "wow, Raymond and Eklund had sick careers, and Wallstedt(if he does) turned out into a NHL starter" and so on.

 

[theslatcher]

You are completely misunderstanding my point. Obviously the 02s had very early hype, but I'm pretty confident that people would not retroactively bring up the strength of the 02 class was if there were not multiple players turning into good professional players

If people in 20 years do a list of the best swedish birthyears in hockey, they wouldn't pick the 02 group because Holtz was a man amongst boys at 14, or because Wallstedt played at X level at Y age, etc. they will look at the 02 group and go "wow, Raymond and Eklund had sick careers, and Wallstedt(if he does) turned out into a NHL starter" and so on.

Well, you can't compare age groups like that until they've retired.

 

[Gazewithin]

Well, you can't compare age groups like that until they've retired.

I mean, you can always compare them, but you won't have the full story until they are retired, no.
But there is a massive difference between comparing age groups at age 17 as opposed who players entering they mid 20s(or later). We have a pretty good understanding of roughly where a group of players are at that point.

Edit: also it won't remove how an age group was perceived as during a certain point in time.

I absolutely agree! But I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the more valuable part of an age groups preformances are the ones they make as adults and hopefully professional hockey players. It's also what I think most of us are valuing when we talk about what our best birth years are.