Suspension for Marchment contact with Referee?

[Kranix]

seemed like the ref didn't even react

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

Seems like the rule allows no leeway if it's established he deliberately tapped him; 10 games. 20 if it was with intent to injure.

It also seems like there is indeed leeway if the deliberate contact is light or light-hearted enough.

So what about noogies on a ref's helmeted head? ("McCauuuuuly")....because I'd like to see that being legal.

 

[geebster]

They should address the actual culprit here. They should suspend his stick. He has to play without one for a game.

 

[cbcwpg]

By not suspending Marchment, the league is going down a path they shouldn't want to... Now what happens to the next player that does this? How can you suspend the next player when this player gets no penalty?

The ref should be suspended as well for not applying the rules as they are written... but then again, if we suspended the refs for ignoring the rules, there would be no refs left.

 

[Mr grumpy]

5k fine

 

[Mattb124]

The slash that was so hard the ref didn’t react to it whatsoever.

 

[Summer Rose]

They should address the actual culprit here. They should suspend his stick. He has to play without one for a game.

I'm not so sure about this. He might be a more effective player without a stick.

 

[Bradely]

I don't think you can do that, it would be a bad precedent if its only a fine.

Yep, I do think they should give one game. Referees can be good or bad, but one thing, no player should hit in any way a zebra.

 

[M88K]

Come on DPS suspend him. Do something

 

[GMR]

His father would have been proud.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

The slash that was so hard the ref didn’t react to it whatsoever.

Calling it a slash is just embarrassing, but yeah don't tap the ref.

 

[Weezeric]

It’s insane that a near identical play with Vermette led to a game misconduct and a 10 game suspension and this got nothing. “Yeah, but he didn’t hit him that hard!” That’s right he didn’t. If he did that would be a 20 game suspension. It’s right in the rule book.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

It’s insane that a near identical play with Vermette led to a game misconduct and a 10 game suspension and this got nothing. “Yeah, but he didn’t hit him that hard!” That’s right he didn’t. If he did that would be a 20 game suspension. It’s right in the rule book.

Near identical, yeah, OK.

 

[Weezeric]

Near identical, yeah, OK.

Take off the homer glasses for a second. It’s identical. A little tap to the shins

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Take off the homer glasses for a second. It’s identical. A little tap to the shins

Antoine Vermette lost the draw, stood there for 2 seconds, thought about it, then took a full swing to the hammy of the linesman.

Marchment crosses paths with the ref, lifts his stick and gives a tap into shins of the ref.

Neither should happen, but arguing that these are similar is crazy to me. If Marchment smacked the knee of the ref with the same force Vermette used then I would say you are correct.

 

[Monk]

Peca got a 10 game suspension reduced to 5 after appeal, for touching a ref's shoulder in 2008. It was originally an indefinite suspension

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/peca-suspended-5-games-for-grabbing-ref-1.732973

Can't find any video of it worth sharing

 

[Mr Nogatco]

It’s insane that a near identical play with Vermette led to a game misconduct and a 10 game suspension and this got nothing. “Yeah, but he didn’t hit him that hard!” That’s right he didn’t. If he did that would be a 20 game suspension. It’s right in the rule book.

Read the thread, no penalty = no suspension

 

[cbcwpg]

The slash that was so hard the ref didn’t react to it whatsoever.

The amount of force used has no bearing on what the rule says. NO CONTACT on the Refs is the rule.

 

[Summer Rose]

The amount of force used has no bearing on what the rule says. NO CONTACT on the Refs is the rule.

Meh. If the referee thinks nothing of it he’s free to use his judgment to disregard it and not toss the player over it. That’s what he did here. He would have been within his rights to toss Marchment but chose not to.

On a similar note I’ve had two incidents where I did something along the same lines. During a stoppage in play a player tapped me on the shoulder (to his credit, very lightly) to get my attention since I wasn’t facing him. I would have been justified in throwing him out of the game for it if I really wanted to, but I didn’t. Another time a player shot the puck in my direction and it nearly hit me in the head, but since it was low level beer league and all, I thought it was pretty obvious he didn’t mean to do it that way and was just trying to nudge the puck in my direction so I could retrieve it. Would have also been within my rights to toss him, but I didn’t.

 

[M88K]

This is outrageous. Suspend him before he can any further damage to the Stars refs

 

[cbcwpg]

Meh. If the referee thinks nothing of it he’s free to use his judgment to disregard it and not toss the player over it. That’s what he did here. He would have been within his rights to toss Marchment but chose not to.

On a similar note I’ve had two incidents where I did something along the same lines. During a stoppage in play a player tapped me on the shoulder (to his credit, very lightly) to get my attention since I wasn’t facing him. I would have been justified in throwing him out of the game for it if I really wanted to, but I didn’t. Another time a player shot the puck in my direction and it nearly hit me in the head, but since it was low level beer league and all, I thought it was pretty obvious he didn’t mean to do it that way and was just trying to nudge the puck in my direction so I could retrieve it. Would have also been within my rights to toss him, but I didn’t.

And that's the whole problem with the NHL and the rules, not just abuse of an official. The rule for abuse of an official is written a specific way and no where in the description is there any leeway for interpretation / judgement. Most of the rules are written that way... Player does "A", penalty is "B", But, they are not enforced that way.

You are right in that it probably was a minor tap, and I heard today when the ref was asked about it, he didn't even know he had been hit. But that's not the issue. If you let this one incident go, what do you do the next time it happens? Abuse of officials is the one rule that must be enforced 100%. No grey area.

 

[tarheelhockey]

So what about noogies on a ref's helmeted head?

Kerry Fraser would give him 5 and a game.

 

[Summer Rose]

Kerry Fraser would give him 5 and a game.

And if anyone messed with his moustache, Bill McCreary wouldn’t toss him, he’d fight him instead.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

What a dumbass

 

[banks]

He had absolutely no force behind the tap. It really was as light and meaningless as contact can be.

But that means nothing. You can't touch an official. They need to be free of any concern about contact when they're on the ice. They can't be expected to do their job if they think a player might be hitting them with a stick. You can't touch an official. It is the definition of 'automatic suspension'. The end.