Transfer: Summer Transfers and Rumors Discussion - Part III

[les Habs]

Yeah I mean that’s the thing, the board can ask for him to take a pay cut and if he does great for them but I don’t think you can fault him for if he doesn’t. Yeah he runs the risk of getting his contract terminated but I mean he might rather that in all honesty. It’s either he gets paid big or he gets to choose a new team.

I'm not faulting him. However, if you're an athlete and you want to compete and you're in a situation where you might sit an entire season or more then that's something for you to consider as well. At his age it probably doesn't matter as much.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

On the one hand I wish we would sign a more established RWB. I don't want us to rely on a recently injured Doherty as our starter next season. Also there are the rumored attitude issues.

On the other hand, Conte seems to desperately want him.

 

[Gecklund]

I'm not faulting him. However, if you're an athlete and you want to compete and you're in a situation where you might sit an entire season or more then that's something for you to consider as well. At his age it probably doesn't matter as much.

No it probably doesn’t otherwise he wouldn’t have signed with Barca. It was obvious when healthy he was never going to play. I don’t know what his wages are but I’m sure they’re pretty big. If I were him, it’s either take a pay cut and play or don’t take a pay cut and don’t play. Even if say he doesn’t play for this year, I’d think there would be a bottom-mid table PL club that would take a chance and he’d probably get paid pretty well there.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Considering he was trusted from his coach from the beginning and produced arguably the best numbers of his career under his coach I'd say you're on to something with regards to his coach who some might find "interesting".



Do tell.



Yeah, that's the story.

Barcelona used an emergency rule to activate Braithwaite's release clause outside the transfer window after Dembélé got injured. Since it happened outside of the transfer window, Leganés had no way to replace him which condemned them to relegation.

 

[Gecklund]

Barcelona used an emergency rule to activate Braithwaite's release clause outside the transfer window after Dembélé got injured. Since it happened outside of the transfer window, Leganés had no way to replace him which condemned to relegation.

I mean Braithwaite still has to say yes so are you blaming him too?

 

[PeteWorrell]

I mean Braithwaite still has to say yes so are you blaming him too?

I don't blame Braithwaite at all. I blame the stupid rule in which a big team can poach a small team and just leave them to die because they could not make use of the money for a replacement. Just funny that Barcelona are now trying to strong-arm the player into taking a pay cut.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

All of the rules put into place by La Liga are there to help Barcelona and Real Madrid continue churning money.
This should come as no surprise; they couldn't give a rats ass about fair play. Same thing with PSG in France.

 

[Evilo]

Considering he was trusted from his coach from the beginning and produced arguably the best numbers of his career under his coach I'd say you're on to something with regards to his coach who some might find "interesting".



Do tell.



Yeah, that's the story.

Yeah the coach who came in December.
Love your dedication to defend your team blindly but sometimes opening your eyes can help.

 

[les Habs]

Barcelona used an emergency rule to activate Braithwaite's release clause outside the transfer window after Dembélé got injured. Since it happened outside of the transfer window, Leganés had no way to replace him which condemned them to relegation.

So they did nothing wrong. Thanks for clarifying, again.

Yeah the coach who came in December.
Love your dedication to defend your team blindly but sometimes opening your eyes can help

So as I said. Thanks for clarifying, though not sure why you made part of your initial post then.

You probably shouldn't comment on that considering your posting history and the fact that in this very discussion I said that I wasn't faulting Braithwaite.

 

[Evilo]

No but you denied the Dembele situation.

 

[les Habs]

No but you denied the Dembele situation.

What exactly did I deny?

All of the rules put into place by La Liga are there to help Barcelona and Real Madrid continue churning money.
This should come as no surprise; they couldn't give a rats ass about fair play. Same thing with PSG in France.

Incredibly inaccurate post.

 

[PeteWorrell]

So they did nothing wrong. Thanks for clarifying, again.



So as I said. Thanks for clarifying, though not sure why you made part of your initial post then.

You probably shouldn't comment on that considering your posting history and the fact that in this very discussion I said that I wasn't faulting Braithwaite.

They might have not done anything wrong per the rules but you can't be surprised people are mocking Barcelona because of the terrible way they have done business by bullying.

 

[les Habs]

They might have not done anything wrong per the rules but you can't be surprised people are mocking Barcelona because of the terrible way they have done business by bullying.

Bullying? I'll assume you're referring to Leganes and the Braithwaite since that is what you originally posted and that is what I applied to.

--So first and foremost, as you admitted after I pointed it out to you, they did nothing wrong per the rules. I'd say it should be painfully obvious, but the rule is there for a reason and was used for that exact reason.
--Second, they paid the player's buyout clause. Again, a "rule" that is actually a requirement in Spain and unless you have evidence to the contrary Barcelona either A) paid said clause or B) agreed a deal with Leganes. So if it is A, they did nothing wrong.
--If you're so concerned with Leganes, and I doubt you are, then you should have a look at Leganes' role here themselves as they played a large part in Braithwaite's clause being what it was.
--Furthermore, if you want to look to apply blame further, have a look at the player himself who surely also played a part in the clause being what it was and who agreed to the contract that included the buyout clause.
--And if you're still not satisfied, suggest some changes to the rule, that make it more "fair" for lack of a better term, up to and including elimination of the rule altogether.

At the end of the day I'm not surprised someone would bring up the Braithwaite transfer because people post stupid things on this forum all the time.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Bullying? I'll assume you're referring to Leganes and the Braithwaite since that is what you originally posted and that is what I applied to.

--So first and foremost, as you admitted after I pointed it out to you, they did nothing wrong per the rules. I'd say it should be painfully obvious, but the rule is there for a reason and was used for that exact reason.
--Second, they paid the player's buyout clause. Again, a "rule" that is actually a requirement in Spain and unless you have evidence to the contrary Barcelona either A) paid said clause or B) agreed a deal with Leganes. So if it is A, they did nothing wrong.
--If you're so concerned with Leganes, and I doubt you are, then you should have a look at Leganes' role here themselves as they played a large part in Braithwaite's clause being what it was.
--Furthermore, if you want to look to apply blame further, have a look at the player himself who surely also played a part in the clause being what it was and who agreed to the contract that included the buyout clause.
--And if you're still not satisfied, suggest some changes to the rule, that make it more "fair" for lack of a better term, up to and including elimination of the rule altogether.

At the end of the day I'm not surprised someone would bring up the Braithwaite transfer because people post stupid things on this forum all the time.

There are a lot of things Barcelona has done lately that have been clownish bullying. Not like you care anyway since you will defend their practices no matter what they do.

 

[Gecklund]

There are a lot of things Barcelona has done lately that have been clownish bullying. Not like you care anyway since you will defend their practices no matter what they do.

I mean even if I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, all you did here is deflect. Barca did nothing wrong with the transfer per the rules. How would you fix the rule?

 

[PeteWorrell]

I mean even if I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, all you did here is deflect. Barca did nothing wrong with the transfer per the rules. How would you fix the rule?

Simple: Let Leganés buy a replacement like they asked and the league rejected. Not very hard.

 

[Gecklund]

Simple: Let Leganés buy a replacement like they asked and the league rejected. Not very hard.

Where does the chain stop then? Barca buys from Leganes who buys from another team who buys from another team who buys from another team, etc by your rules.

I’m not disagreeing with you FWIW. Just curious.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Where does the chain stop then? Barca buys from Leganes who buys from another team who buys from another team who buys from another team, etc by your rules.

I’m not disagreeing with you FWIW. Just curious.

There is also the option of making the emergency rule apply to only players in the academy or affiliates. The NHL has such an emergency rule where i remember the Oilers getting a junior player in because of too many injuries.

 

[Savant]

 

[PeteWorrell]

What a lowball offer.

 

[Gecklund]

There is also the option of making the emergency rule apply to only players in the academy or affiliates. The NHL has such an emergency rule where i remember the Oilers getting a junior player in because of too many injuries.

See and that’s where I think the rule should go. Having some sort of reserve list that includes the academy players.

 

[Savant]

What a lowball offer.

They are going to have to double that

 

[Live in the Now]

Yea we're going to sell him for 21 million. f*** off.

 

[les Habs]

There are a lot of things Barcelona has done lately that have been clownish bullying. Not like you care anyway since you will defend their practices no matter what they do.

LOL, right, and the election was stolen from Trump.

 

[Savant]

Yea we're going to sell him for 21 million. f*** off.

For 21 million he can stay this season and then walk.