Sudbury Wolves 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

[Wolf on a Wire]

I believe we have a history of saying NO, just look at last year

I think you have that backwards, Players with NTC are saying no until they get traded to the destination of choice…

 

[billoink]

I would think after the London deal basically sowing up the west ,the teams in the east that feel they can go all the way to face London would have the most interest in Musty now

 

[Isaac Nootin]

If you are inclined to believe @OHL4Life (which I do considering his track record here), the ask for Musty from London earlier in the year is complete and utter lunacy. Typical Paps.

Musty's going nowhere with that asking price and Papineau guiding the ship.

 

[I Loveallsports]

1st order of business. Release /trade Molnar. 2nd release/ trade Di Giantommaso

Molnar cost- 26 3rd 27, 3rd.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

1st order of business. Release /trade Molnar. 2nd release/ trade Di Giantommaso

Molnar cost- 26 3rd 27, 3rd.

I think the picks for the Molnar trade are conditional???

 

[Voice from the North]

If you are inclined to believe @OHL4Life (which I do considering his track record here), the ask for Musty from London earlier in the year is complete and utter lunacy. Typical Paps.

Musty's going nowhere with that asking price and Papineau guiding the ship.

That is a crazy asking price and everyone knows that but Papineau is setting the market. Buyer goes low, seller goes high, typical of negotiation. He knows, or at least I hope he knows, he's not getting that.

1st order of business. Release /trade Molnar. 2nd release/ trade Di Giantommaso

Molnar cost- 26 3rd 27, 3rd.

Molnar was injured for a while and hasn't mixed with the right linemates yet. Give him some time. I agree on DiGiantomaso as he's a soft turnover machine and a younger player can easily fill his space and do more for the team

 

[dirty12]

That is a crazy asking price and everyone knows that but Papineau is setting the market. Buyer goes low, seller goes high, typical of negotiation. He knows, or at least I hope he knows, he's not getting that.


Molnar was injured for a while and hasn't mixed with the right linemates yet. Give him some time. I agree on DiGiantomaso as he's a soft turnover machine and a younger player can easily fill his space and do more for the team

Papineau may have been re-affirming he is a dink, not setting a price that was already set in the Rehkopf & Barlow trades. Papineau could have made the case Musty is bit better, add a 3rd.

 

[Voice from the North]

Papineau may have been re-affirming he is a dink, not setting a price that was already set in the Rehkopf & Barlow trades. Papineau could have made the case Musty is bit better, add a 3rd.

That’s a fair statement. Musty is a better player and maybe worth an extra pick or slightly better player. London wouldn’t and shouldn’t agree to that. Either way, Papineau should ask for at least a price that’s already been set

 

[billoink]

Few teams are left that would be interested in him so price will be much less than what Papineau will expect. If he is waiting for a firsty when that window opens he had better have a deal done already or the chances of getting true value that late will be hard. He waited too long last season and all the potential good ones were gone and we all know what happened after that. Hopefully history doesn’t repeat itself.

 

[djscooter]

Hopefully they scout the players they acquire a bit more this time. I'm sure Klinkhammer sold a few extra season tickets but he was not an OHL player and Ewles is the weakest d-man in the lineup most nights. Picks are nice, but they need bodies on the ice if they sell off as well.

 

[Voice from the North]

Few teams are left that would be interested in him so price will be much less than what Papineau will expect. If he is waiting for a firsty when that window opens he had better have a deal done already or the chances of getting true value that late will be hard. He waited too long last season and all the potential good ones were gone and we all know what happened after that. Hopefully history doesn’t repeat itself.

Musty is the top attraction on the market, if Papineau is willing to trade him to an Eastern Conference team the bidding war will be high. I still think Musty is going to Erie eventually.

Hopefully they scout the players they acquire a bit more this time. I'm sure Klinkhammer sold a few extra season tickets but he was not an OHL player and Ewles is the weakest d-man in the lineup most nights. Picks are nice, but they need bodies on the ice if they sell off as well.

Yes, it can't all be pick based unless they move those picks for some good players, not just throw ins. The Wolves have a lot of picks already so I would accept less in picks in favor of a stronger player. Look at what North Bay did in the fall as a prime example

 

[billoink]

Leander’s, Barlow Wakley all went early in the season when more teams were weighing their options, after Londons moves not to many teams in the west are going to be that eager to go all in. The east however is different, Barrie, Oshawa, and a few others can go for winning the east thus facing London and generating a lot of games which results in revenue. Let’s hope our GM does not have his rose coloured glasses on and believes we are also one of these teams. I hope we get a kings ransom for Musty but I just don’t see it, hopefully I am wrong but as you all know, I don’t have that much faith in our GM.

 

[MGOBlue]

If you are inclined to believe @OHL4Life (which I do considering his track record here), the ask for Musty from London earlier in the year is complete and utter lunacy. Typical Paps.

Musty's going nowhere with that asking price and Papineau guiding the ship.

Every post he makes about the Wolves, he goes out of his way to insult Papineau to try and make him sound awful. He sounds to me like someone who is bitter he got passed up for a job in Sudbury, or knows someone who was. Clear agenda and wouldn't trust one word out of his mouth.

 

[billoink]

Every post he makes about the Wolves, he goes out of his way to insult Papineau to try and make him sound awful. He sounds to me like someone who is bitter he got passed up for a job in Sudbury. Wouldn't trust one word out of his mouth.

Maybe if you are able to speak to some of the Gms some of the scouts and mostly some of the players and even some billets you will get some perspective on there feelings with respect to your GM and coach last season. Why do you think Musty did what he did, why did Drake come on board with conditions. Why was Brent hired only to be put in Papineau,s box so someone would be there to listen to him. You are attached to his purse strings what is your reason?

 

[MGOBlue]

Maybe if you are able to speak to some of the Gms some of the scouts and mostly some of the players and even some billets you will get some perspective on there feelings with respect to your GM and coach last season. Why do you think Musty did what he did, why did Drake come on board with conditions. Why was Brent hired only to be put in Papineau,s box so someone would be there to listen to him. You are attached to his purse strings what is your reason?

 

[billoink]

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Hopefully they scout the players they acquire a bit more this time. I'm sure Klinkhammer sold a few extra season tickets but he was not an OHL player and Ewles is the weakest d-man in the lineup most nights. Picks are nice, but they need bodies on the ice if they sell off as well.

Klinkhammer was a throw in, Ewles is a very strong 4-5 DMan on this current team and has performed very well. Yes some bad games but way more better ones playing with young D.
As far as the trade goes it was more about the return of picks (which was massive) to rid ourselves of OA players we’d have to release due to having so many 20 year olds and a player who wasn’t a good teammate.
Too me, our GM struck early on the OA market and got an amazing return under the aforementioned circumstances.

 

[OttersFan]

When about is Musty clear from injury?

 

[I Loveallsports]

When about is Musty clear from injury?

I heard 2 weeks.

 

[OttersFan]

I heard 2 weeks.

Which if Erie is still pursuing him, it would be perfect timing for Challenger to also be moved.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

With the Wolves currently sitting in the middle of the Eastern conference, I feel Musty will be the pivot point on what our trade deadline looks like.
1) Wolves get a great offer for #27 and we complete the trade and use assets for a soft buy and add an elite 08 or 07.
2) We don’t get a fair offer for #27 and he stays and we buy like hell to make the best of an already very good team. Under this scenario I’m not sure teams would like to match up with us in playoffs. Also, if this happens Walton and Villy get dealt at next deadline 2025 to restock draft capital.
3) Trade Musty, McCoy, Delic and DeAngelis for the max returns now and start rebuild now, then this time next year make your decision on Villy and Walton. Massive amount of draft picks to make additions in Summer.
It all starts with Musty?

 

[agillarda]

With the Wolves currently sitting in the middle of the Eastern conference, I feel Musty will be the pivot point on what our trade deadline looks like.
1) Wolves get a great offer for #27 and we complete the trade and use assets for a soft buy and add an elite 08 or 07.
2) We don’t get a fair offer for #27 and he stays and we buy like hell to make the best of an already very good team. Under this scenario I’m not sure teams would like to match up with us in playoffs. Also, if this happens Walton and Villy get dealt at next deadline 2025 to restock draft capital.
3) Trade Musty, McCoy, Delic and DeAngelis for the max returns now and start rebuild now, then this time next year make your decision on Villy and Walton. Massive amount of draft picks to make additions in Summer.
It all starts with Musty?

It all starts with Musty yes, but the other question the team should be asking is what kind of team do you want to have when the new arena is slated to open in 2027-28. After this season you have 2025-26, 2026-27 before that.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

It all starts with Musty yes, but the other question the team should be asking is what kind of team do you want to have when the new arena is slated to open in 2027-28. After this season you have 2025-26, 2026-27 before that.

Our 07 players are not plentiful. IMO we had a great draft last season for 08s and U18 draft. I believe this will be the basis of our core when the new arena arrives..

 

[agillarda]

Our 07 players are not plentiful. IMO we had a great draft last season for 08s and U18 draft. I believe this will be the basis of our core when the new arena arrives..

Oh I agree we had a great draft, we have 2 defence playing OJHL right now that I think could have pushed for a spot this year and will next season. If we moved some of our assets in Musty and next year villy and Walton we can add to that and have the assets to buy big going into the opening season.

Look at what Brampton has been able to do and still have the assets to get more. Asset management is an important factor.

 

[dirty12]

Oh I agree we had a great draft, we have 2 defence playing OJHL right now that I think could have pushed for a spot this year and will next season. If we moved some of our assets in Musty and next year villy and Walton we can add to that and have the assets to buy big going into the opening season.

Look at what Brampton has been able to do and still have the assets to get more. Asset management is an important factor.

Don’t copy the steelheads 2024, geez.