Sudbury Wolves 2023-2024 Off-Season Thread (Part 2)

[dirty12]

I think the smart thing considering Oshawa, Brantford and Brampton have already pushed in you at the very least reset and be ready to go for the 2027 mem cup.

it absolutely wouldn't hurt Dean, or doucet to develope in jr A.

Without Dvorski and Goyette I don't think we can keep pace with the big 3 especially if the rumor of Barlow to Oshawa happens.

With questions in goal and and an iffy defence I see at best a mid season best cause 6th and 1st round lost.

Without a doubt the wolves need one legit #2-3 D to compete. The team is in pretty good shape at forward though. The wolves are pretty much equal to Brantford presently.
Right now, the wolves top six would maul the steelheads forwards. Barrie and Oshawa would be tougher, though Oshawa will just be essentially 3 all-stars deep at forward after acquiring Barlow.

 

[agillarda]

Waay to far out to be building towards 2030 memorial cup.
Sell the ‘05s & ‘06s this season to resemble the Petes 2023-24 through 2025-26, no thanks. Without good veteran support, the kids may not develop as well; if at all due to being unnecessarily exposed to higher risk of injury.

2027 mem cup.

Unless you go out and get another top 6 forward and maybe 2 defencemen because blonda probably in one of the trades and a goalie.

I don't see our top 6 as that much better than Bramptons.

Our path in playoffs goes through Brampton,Barrie or Oshawa in the first round.

 

[cobra9850]

I have been of the mind to bring Newton home all of season, Molnar would be nice too. My thing is the goaltending will it be there. Also losing Goyette and Dvorski(doubtful he comes back) it would make the most sense to off load Musty, McCoy, Deangelis and at the right price Villy or Walton.

We have one of the bigger draft pick cupboards for sure but if not rebuilding at the very least reset. I'd rather a rebuild aiming to go for it in 2027 and challenge the petes on a mem cup bid.

Newton would be excellent on a line with Chitaroni following their excellent chemistry with the Cubs

 

[cobra9850]

Barrie acquires 2nd round NHL draft pick Swedish Gabriel Eliasson for a 3 round pick.He would have fit the bill on our D.Probably did not want to come here

 

[dirty12]

2027 mem cup.

Unless you go out and get another top 6 forward and maybe 2 defencemen because blonda probably in one of the trades and a goalie.

I don't see our top 6 as that much better than Bramptons.

Our path in playoffs goes through Brampton,Barrie or Oshawa in the first round.

A new Sudbury arena opens by 2027?

 

[frontsfan67]

2027 mem cup.

Unless you go out and get another top 6 forward and maybe 2 defencemen because blonda probably in one of the trades and a goalie.

I don't see our top 6 as that much better than Bramptons.

Our path in playoffs goes through Brampton,Barrie or Oshawa in the first round.

Or potentially Brantford/Kingston too.
As I’ve said before the top 4-5 of the east may be better than 2-10 of the west. I think there’s London at the top then a BIG drop off to Erie and Saginaw who are in that second tier below London

If London gets everyone back and makes an upgrade in net I think they’re the favourites even over teams like Brampton and Barrie. Never anticipated them getting potentially all of Cowan, Bonk and Dickinson back. Unbelievably lucky if they do.

Cowan has not looked good with the leafs. Still could use him maybe in a bottom 4 role but for development it would be better with him in London playing every situation and in every tournament this year (wjc and mem cup) Bonk may crack Philly I think he now has the highest chance of the 3 but it’s tough to say- they may want him developing 1 more year before cracking the pros in the 2025/2026 season. Dickinson has the size and defensive skill but they may want him working more on his offensive game with another year of junior.

One thing is for sure though all 3 of those guys along with Barkey are 100% gone in 2025/26 though.

 

[agillarda]

Or potentially Brantford/Kingston too.
As I’ve said before the top 4-5 of the east may be better than 2-10 of the west. I think there’s London at the top then a BIG drop off to Erie and Saginaw who are in that second tier below London

Sorry forgot to mention them.

Like I said let them buy players from us and push down the road. Recognize the signs and get ahead.

 

[frontsfan67]

Sorry forgot to mention them.

Like I said let them buy players from us and push down the road. Recognize the signs and get ahead.

Around the deadline would be a real good time to sell the excess OAs if they wanted to for higher value- guys like Delic, Deangelis, McCoy would go for a TON then. Musty will obviously go for a ton whenever but if they want that first round pick they’ll have to wait until the deadline. UNLESS Oshawa wanted both Barlow AND Musty- I’m sure the wolves would happily take griffin from them if offered.

I wouldn’t sell anymore than those 4 though- you’d still have a good core and Villenueve looks like he’s ready for a big breakout year- spending half of it with musty would be good for him. Same with Walton he had a big pre season. If they traded those 4 and got rid of the 2 OA’s.

The first thing I’d be doing if they traded these guys is calling about an upgrade in net- whoever is available if it’s Sztuska(unlikely because he probably will be long gone by then but you never know), Parsons, Mackenzie or even Lalonde in Kingston(situation may come up where Kingston tries to get Wakely and Ludwinski comes back). Reason being is you’d be losing your top 2 d men, and a good centre in delic so the defence of the whole team would take a huge hit.

 

[agillarda]

Around the deadline would be a real good time to sell the excess OAs if they wanted to for higher value- guys like Delic, Deangelis, McCoy would go for a TON then. Musty will obviously go for a ton whenever but if they want that first round pick they’ll have to wait until the deadline. UNLESS Oshawa wanted both Barlow AND Musty- I’m sure the wolves would happily take griffin from them if offered.

I wouldn’t sell anymore than those 4 though- you’d still have a good core and Villenueve looks like he’s ready for a big breakout year- spending half of it with musty would be good for him. Same with Walton he had a big pre season. If they traded those 4 and got rid of the 2 OA’s.

The first thing I’d be doing if they traded these guys is calling about an upgrade in net- whoever is available if it’s Sztuska(unlikely but you never know), Parsons, Mackenzie or even Lalonde in Kingston(situation may come up where Kingston tries to get Wakely and Ludwinski comes back). Reason being is you’d be losing your top 2 d men, and a good centre in delic so the defence of the whole team would take a huge hit.

That's where I am. Villy or Walton would take a BIG package at this point for 2 years of them.

A new Sudbury arena opens by 2027?

The whole proposed area has been demoed already except for one building.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

You prioritze the most talented of course.

My thoughts on Newton are based on the chemistry built last year with the Cubs between him and Chitironi you could pair them.

I think Chitaroni is doing ok without him, he had 3 or 4 points last game…

 

[dirty12]

That's where I am. Villy or Walton would take a BIG package at this point for 2 years of them.


The whole proposed area has been demoed already except for one building.

There’s still infrastructure work to be done before building, ‘27 seems ambitious; but maybe May ‘27 adding many millions of tax payer $

 

[agillarda]

There’s still infrastructure work to be done before building, ‘27 seems ambitious; but maybe May ‘27 adding many millions of tax payer $

Well May '27 would be around the right time for a mem cup, what better way to open a new building than with the Mem cup

 

[OHL4Life]

I think Chitaroni is doing ok without him, he had 3 or 4 points last game…

or may do better with a better player?

 

[jamo27]

There’s still infrastructure work to be done before building, ‘27 seems ambitious; but maybe May ‘27 adding many millions of tax payer $

as per the city plan, the arena wont be ready until May 2028

 

[djscooter]

Seeing what Niagara got for Gabriel Eliasson, a high second round NHL pick from Barrie is hilarious. As bad as the wolves have had it, at least they're not Niagara. Niagara has been allowed to operate as a farm team for the rest of the OHL the last few years. It's incredible how they took Papineau to the cleaners on the Vandenberg deal despite that.

Barrie's very much not going to be fun to play against between Eliasson, Aitcheson, Beaudoin and a few others.

 

[frontsfan67]

Seeing what Niagara got for Gabriel Eliasson, a high second round NHL pick from Barrie is hilarious. As bad as the wolves have had it, at least they're not Niagara. Niagara has been allowed to operate as a farm team for the rest of the OHL the last few years. It's incredible how they took Papineau to the cleaners on the Vandenberg deal despite that.

Barrie's very much not going to be fun to play against between Eliasson, Aitcheson, Beaudoin and a few others.

Unreal what’s happening with Niagara

Barrie may have the best overall defence in the league.

2 amazingly talented 2 way centres in Jelsma and Beaudoin, 3 good 2way d men and a big defensive d man in Eliasson. Then one of the top 5 -10 goalies in the league in hillebrandt too and I’m sure they’re not done adding yet. Gardiner is also going to be a very good 3rd line centre.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Unreal what’s happening with Niagara

Barrie may have the best overall defence in the league.

2 amazingly talented 2 way centres in Jelsma and Beaudoin, 3 good 2way d men and a big defensive d man in Eliasson. Then one of the top 5 -10 goalies in the league in hillebrandt too and I’m sure they’re not done adding yet. Gardiner is also going to be a very good 3rd line centre.

Barrie will be very good this year. They will come to Sudbury to send a message. Great test for our young guys and our coaching staff. We are quickly gonna find out the calibre of our goaltending…

 

[WolvesFanInNorthBay]

Villeneuve officially assigned back to the OHL.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1839071634596020698

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Newton would be excellent on a line with Chitaroni following their excellent chemistry with the Cubs

Absolutely massive difference between the OHL and NOJHL. Neither have proven anything at the OHL level. Chemistry only goes so far.

 

[agillarda]

Hopefully the wolves pick up Molnar, Erie has 3 imports at the moment and he makes the most sense for them to move.

Also be interesting to see where a guy like Grisolia ends up. He's not an OA and Barrie cut him.

 

[NorthernBridge7]

Predictions for letters?

C - Musty
A - McCoy
A - Delic
A - Villeneuve

I'd personally like McCoy or Delic to be captain but think it'll be handed to Musty.

 

[frontsfan67]

Predictions for letters?

C - Musty
A - McCoy
A - Delic
A - Villeneuve

I'd personally like McCoy or Delic to be captain but think it'll be handed to Musty.

I predict they give it to McCoy- was already captain of the Pete’s before going to Sudbury.

Musty, Delic, Villy A’s for sure. If they give a 4th one and split the 2 A’s home and away- deangelis.

And if Sudbury does a HARD sell and gets rid of McCoy, musty, delic, Deangelis- Mr Nathan Villenueve gets the C after deadline

 

[agillarda]

Predictions for letters?

C - Musty
A - McCoy
A - Delic
A - Villeneuve

I'd personally like McCoy or Delic to be captain but think it'll be handed to Musty.

Should by Villy or McCoy in my opinion

 

[dirty12]

Delic ‘C’
Musty, DeAngelis, Villeneuve
Tough call

 

[djscooter]

Should be Delic, just like it should have been Delic last year. Hopefully the new coach see's who leads from example in their play.