Player Discussion Stuart Skinner

[jitterbug]

terrible goalie. it's an atrocity that he is anywhere near the net in a cup final

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I loved the story, and the guy seems pretty great, but he has no future in Edmonton. I wish him the best wherever he ends up

He ends up back in Edmonton lol

 

[Drivesaitl]

So its got to this point. I've followed the club, watched the games, gone to games since 1972. If Stu Skinner is again our #1 goalie next season I'm done. I'm not even watching. So f***ing done with this clown in net. I find watching him frustrating at this point. If the org continues to see this as the #1 guy than I don't see a lot of hope for the team.

I wonder how many of the players feel this way.

 

[Daishi]

For the last three years my only HFBoards contributions have been to call out this scrub goalie Stuart Skinner for what he is. Countless times Oil fans have come to his defense. Search my post history. I said it three years ago I'll say it again the Oilers will never win the Cup as long as they keep this bum. He can't skate, he can't read plays, he overplays situations leaving the net empty, he gives up soft team deflating goals and is overall the exact opposite of a playoff money goalie who elevates his play when the stakes are high. He is one (if not the) of the worst playoff goalies of all time and everyone associated with him keeping his job should be fired. If he continues to play for the Oilers you guys can write next season off right now.

Ever since I first saw him play I've been expecting him to fail in the most spectacular way possible, flopping around like a fish, staring at the sky. The only surprise has been to see so many Oilers staff and fans support him through his failures for no reason whatsoever. The man accepts no responsibility and isn't even trying to improve his game. The franchise deserves all of the recent disappointment for allowing this debacle to continue and fester.

 

[Drivesaitl]

This has to be posted in this and the other thread. People need to know what machinations are going on.

The STu Skinner presser post game is must watch. Its maddening really. This guy multiple times in the interview states the team was inconsistent, but that Skinner was OK with his own game, felt he was consistent, in his bubble, and the inference that he was on his game.

McD and Drai etc NEVER throw this guy under the bus and he just did that (again) to the team. His presser was the typical love affair with the media where they were messaging leading edge questions that Skinner is only removed from Bobroski on experience. Several soft questions on that allowing Skinner to expand how he's going to try to pick Bobos brain and so that he can become him. It was actually bizarre.

The media are setting the table, again, for Skinner to come back and now the story is years hence "the oilers will be sorry" this actually stated in telecast, I think it was Friedman who hates this club, if they move on from Skinner. The trumped story is that Skinner is going to be the next one. That only experience separates that.

No mention at all that Bobo and other goalies in NHL are elite because they have outstanding skillsets, skating, movement, flexibility none of which Skinner has.

The poster above mentioned it and I'll raise the point to that I was saying years ago Skinner cannot appreciably improve as a goalie because he does not have any of the requisite skillsets or athleticism to be a premium NHL goalie. The physical specimen isn't changing, you don't develop cat flexibility at his age, you develop it earlier, you don't become an athlete overnight, its a lifetime endeavor.

We're being sent up for a Skinner extension.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This has to be posted in this and the other thread. People need to know what machinations are going on.

The STu Skinner presser post game is must watch. Its maddening really. This guy multiple times in the interview states the team was inconsistent, but that Skinner was OK with his own game, felt he was consistent, in his bubble, and the inference that he was on his game.

McD and Drai etc NEVER throw this guy under the bus and he just did that (again) to the team. His presser was the typical love affair with the media where they were messaging leading edge questions that Skinner is only removed from Bobroski on experience. Several soft questions on that allowing Skinner to expand how he's going to try to pick Bobos brain and so that he can become him. It was actually bizarre.

The media are setting the table, again, for Skinner to come back and now the story is years hence "the oilers will be sorry" this actually stated in telecast, I think it was Friedman who hates this club, if they move on from Skinner. The trumped story is that Skinner is going to be the next one. That only experience separates that.

No mention at all that Bobo and other goalies in NHL are elite because they have outstanding skillsets, skating, movement, flexibility none of which Skinner has.

The poster above mentioned it and I'll raise the point to that I was saying years ago Skinner cannot appreciably improve as a goalie because he does not have any of the requisite skillsets or athleticism to be a premium NHL goalie. The physical specimen isn't changing, you don't develop cat flexibility at his age, you develop it earlier, you don't become an athlete overnight, its a lifetime endeavor.

We're being sent up for a Skinner extension.

You really read far too much into press conferences. I never watch them because the team always says the same thing. Lots of talk prior to game 6 about how they "hadn't played their best game yet" as if they were waiting for some magic to happen that just never came.

People acting like the Panthers weren't the far, far superior team in this series and that Skinner was the only reason this team lost (never mind that he was completely absent in game 5). I get it, it's frustrating to lose to that team two years in a row and if we're being honest the series was never that close.

I don't particularly care what the Oilers do with Skinner whether they keep him or not. Was he good enough? No, he wasn't. But I challenge anyone on this forum to find someone who was consistently good throughout this series.

 

[Drivesaitl]

You really read far too much into press conferences. I never watch them because the team always says the same thing. Lots of talk prior to game 6 about how they "hadn't played their best game yet" as if they were waiting for some magic to happen that just never came.

People acting like the Panthers weren't the far, far superior team in this series and that Skinner was the only reason this team lost (never mind that he was completely absent in game 5). I get it, it's frustrating to lose to that team two years in a row and if we're being honest the series was never that close.

I don't particularly care what the Oilers do with Skinner whether they keep him or not. Was he good enough? No, he wasn't. But I challenge anyone on this forum to find someone who was consistently good throughout this series.

No I read what the team, media, and telecast are spreading about Skinner and its been a constant misinformation campaign about his ability, about his worth, and a non stop love affair the media have with this player. No less than Barkov and Bennett are Ekblad are saying McD and Drai are the best players they've ever played against. The media are throwing those players hardball questions and the usual rumbling about leaderership and vaulting Skinner as the next Bobo. You should listen to some of the stuff being said. Its being shaped for a Skinner return.

If you need more Skinner was awful in the series throughout yet the team played him in the elimination game.

Pickard 7-1, every stat better, can play the puck, but they go with Skinner who finishes the playoffs 7W 8L and would've been 7W 9L but Pickard saved the game 4.

 

[fireantz]

I’m one of Stu’s biggest supporters, but there is no way he plays for the Oilers again. I think he has a future in the NHL. But the noise here will never let him have the confidence to succeed in Edm. Both team and player need a fresh start. The market seems empty to me but we have to trust Bowman to find an upgrade. Just don’t buy another Campbell.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

No I read what the team, media, and telecast are spreading about Skinner and its been a constant misinformation campaign about his ability, about his worth, and a non stop love affair the media have with this player. No less than Barkov and Bennett are Ekblad are saying McD and Drai are the best players they've ever played against. The media are throwing those players hardball questions and the usual rumbling about leaderership and vaulting Skinner as the next Bobo. You should listen to some of the stuff being said. Its being shaped for a Skinner return.

If you need more Skinner was awful in the series throughout yet the team played him in the elimination game.

Pickard 7-1, every stat better, can play the puck, but they go with Skinner who finishes the playoffs 7W 8L and would've been 7W 9L but Pickard saved the game 4.

I don't care what the opponents say, nor do I care what our worthless media says. You think the Panthers going to kick dirt on us after we lost the series to them again? We sucked to a man. We were no match for Florida, period. Never more evident than in a crucial game 5 where Skinner was put on the bench and the team served up a laugher of an effort that essentially lost them the Cup. Put in Pickard last night, the result doesn't change.

And for as much as Pickard saved game 4, the Panthers also stopped playing and let the Oilers take over. Had they kept pushing like they did in the first period we aren't even seeing a game 6.

The Panthers were better than the Oilers in every single facet of hockey.

 

[Little Fury]

Whether you blame him or not, there's no way he should be back next year. There's just too much baggage.

 

[McJadeddog]

For the last three years my only HFBoards contributions have been to call out this scrub goalie Stuart Skinner for what he is. Countless times Oil fans have come to his defense. Search my post history. I said it three years ago I'll say it again the Oilers will never win the Cup as long as they keep this bum. He can't skate, he can't read plays, he overplays situations leaving the net empty, he gives up soft team deflating goals and is overall the exact opposite of a playoff money goalie who elevates his play when the stakes are high. He is one (if not the) of the worst playoff goalies of all time and everyone associated with him keeping his job should be fired. If he continues to play for the Oilers you guys can write next season off right now.

Ever since I first saw him play I've been expecting him to fail in the most spectacular way possible, flopping around like a fish, staring at the sky. The only surprise has been to see so many Oilers staff and fans support him through his failures for no reason whatsoever. The man accepts no responsibility and isn't even trying to improve his game. The franchise deserves all of the recent disappointment for allowing this debacle to continue and fester.

I don't know about all time, but in the cap era, he is the worst playoff "starting" tender. All the stats show this. in fact, it's not close either. He is, by far, the worst playoff performing starter since 2005.

 

[TB12]

Other fans all know Skinner sucks. Other teams all know Skinner sucks. Other media all know Skinner sucks. Yet we have supposedly knowledgeable "Oiler" fans on here and the media in this town that continue to defend him? Make it make sense.

 

[McJadeddog]

This has to be posted in this and the other thread. People need to know what machinations are going on.

The STu Skinner presser post game is must watch. Its maddening really. This guy multiple times in the interview states the team was inconsistent, but that Skinner was OK with his own game, felt he was consistent, in his bubble, and the inference that he was on his game.

McD and Drai etc NEVER throw this guy under the bus and he just did that (again) to the team. His presser was the typical love affair with the media where they were messaging leading edge questions that Skinner is only removed from Bobroski on experience. Several soft questions on that allowing Skinner to expand how he's going to try to pick Bobos brain and so that he can become him. It was actually bizarre.

The media are setting the table, again, for Skinner to come back and now the story is years hence "the oilers will be sorry" this actually stated in telecast, I think it was Friedman who hates this club, if they move on from Skinner. The trumped story is that Skinner is going to be the next one. That only experience separates that.

No mention at all that Bobo and other goalies in NHL are elite because they have outstanding skillsets, skating, movement, flexibility none of which Skinner has.

The poster above mentioned it and I'll raise the point to that I was saying years ago Skinner cannot appreciably improve as a goalie because he does not have any of the requisite skillsets or athleticism to be a premium NHL goalie. The physical specimen isn't changing, you don't develop cat flexibility at his age, you develop it earlier, you don't become an athlete overnight, its a lifetime endeavor.

We're being sent up for a Skinner extension.

If Skinner is extended, I'm done with the team, full stop. I won't watch another game. If he is brought back as a backup, or even a 1B, then sure, whatever. But if he is extended as a starter, I'm done.

 

[badi]

He is at best an average goalie
Oilers need much better then that

 

[Drivesaitl]

If Skinner is extended, I'm done with the team, full stop. I won't watch another game. If he is brought back as a backup, or even a 1B, then sure, whatever. But if he is extended as a starter, I'm done.

Exactly what I said. I'm just going to continue to watch all the games if Shitcan is our starter still next season. There isn't enough Tylenol for that.

 

[maskingagent]

Without a solid No. 1 goaltender Edmonton will never win a cup. You can run a 2 goalie system throughout the regular season, but come playoffs, you need your starter from Round 1, game 1 ready to go. Edmonton still have not figured this out. Oh well. Let's see what Stan Bowman can do ?

 

[bodechek]

The STu Skinner presser post game is must watch. Its maddening really. This guy multiple times in the interview states the team was inconsistent, but that Skinner was OK with his own game, felt he was consistent, in his bubble, and the inference that he was on his game.

Stu Skinner wasn't wrong there, he was consistently bad. How many more wasted seasons will it take for the Oilers to move on from him? If anything, this past post season just showed that Skinner is not a playoff goalie.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Stu Skinner wasn't wrong there, he was consistently bad. How many more wasted seasons will it take for the Oilers to move on from him? If anything, this past post season just showed that Skinner is not a playoff goalie.

Can't say I disagree. heh. Yeah, consistently bad. haha

Yet Skinner got the start yesterday, still, in the elimination game, again, after being playoff dogshit for the whole time.

 

[Messrules11]

After the trade deadline passed and we didn’t upgrade on Skinner I knew there was no Cup coming. I said last year was as close as Skinner will ever get to a Cup and Hells Bells, I was right.

 

[tfwnogf]

I hate his interviews because he's just so ho-hum about everything. No passion whatsoever.

 

[Stoneman89]

Skinner said he is going to "study" how Bobrovsky handles pressure now to make himself a better goalie. Not sure what the hell that means, but I think his time is more than done here. We can't keep doing the definition of insane every year. Lots of other changes needed and will likely happen, but this one is important.

 

[Stoneman89]

I hate his interviews because he's just so ho-hum about everything. No passion whatsoever.

Guess you aren't old enough to remember Grant Fuhr's interviews. He 'd make Skinner look like an excited child. I just want someone to get the job done on the ice, I could care less how they are in interviews.

 

[MessierThanThou]

High ceiling, but the lowest floor of any goalie to ever see this much action in the postseason. In history.

 

[jitterbug]

High ceiling, but the lowest floor of any goalie to ever see this much action in the postseason. In history.

high ceiling compared to who? he can't move left to right and craters without perfect play in front of him

 

[MessierThanThou]

high ceiling compared to who? he can't move left to right and craters without perfect play in front of him

I mean you're not wrong. His GSAx in his good games were strong, but yeah, the D made it easy for him most of the time. I think he credibly stole one game in these playoffs. Lost us at least three though...