GDT: STORM IN THE PRAIRIE ep. IV LAST JETSI

[Nikishin Go Boom]

“The Svecher” or “Svech-ing” will cause some interesting defensive decisions for coaches.

They have to go challenge the guy behind the net sooner. That leaves in front a little more open and/or requiring a high defender to rotate down and leaves the slot more free for shots or pinching. If a guy rotates down it would be harder for them to get out of their own zone and maintain possession while doing so.

or

They stay with the typical defensive posture of boxing out in front of the net with sticks on the ice to stop passes which leaves Svech the option of trying it again.

goalies will have to react now to. Do they leave they high corner open and risk one? Do they cheat more to the corner to protect it leaving the back door (where Aho sneaks in) more available?

these two attempts could have a larger impact on opposing teams than two crazy goals. I think it would take a couple more successful attempts before anything changed but interesting to think about.

 

[MinJaBen]

That's a great angle of that play!

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

“The Svecher” or “Svech-ing” will cause some interesting defensive decisions for coaches.

They have to go challenge the guy behind the net sooner. That leaves in front a little more open and/or requiring a high defender to rotate down and leaves the slot more free for shots or pinching. If a guy rotates down it would be harder for them to get out of their own zone and maintain possession while doing so.

or

They stay with the typical defensive posture of boxing out in front of the net with sticks on the ice to stop passes which leaves Svech the option of trying it again.

goalies will have to react now to. Do they leave they high corner open and risk one? Do they cheat more to the corner to protect it leaving the back door (where Aho sneaks in) more available?

these two attempts could have a larger impact on opposing teams than two crazy goals. I think it would take a couple more successful attempts before anything changed but interesting to think about.

I DON’T THINK IT’S GOING TO HAVE THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT, BUT TEAMS MIGHT MAKE PLAYER-SPECIFIC ADJUSTMENTS FOR SVECH.

In floorball (which I play myself), this sort of goal isn’t that rare especially in matches where there is bigger skill gap between players.

Ball is a lot easier to pick up, so despite much more strict rules for high stick play, you gotta be ready for these shenanigans when playing D.

So...

AT LEAST ONE DEFENSEMAN NEEDS TO COVER THE PIPE.

 

[Lempo]

I DON’T THINK IT’S GOING TO HAVE THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT, BUT TEAME MIGHT MAKE PLAYER-SPECIFIC ADJUSTMENTS FOR SVECH.

In floorball (which I play myself), this sort of goal isn’t that rare especially in matches where there is bigger skill gap between players.

Ball is a lot easier to pick up, so despite much more strict rules for high stick play, you gotta be ready for these shenanigans when playing D.

So...

AT LEAST ONE DEFENSEMAN NEEDS TO COVER THE PIPE.

The teams do actively adjust to Laine's shot, and as a consequence the bastard has upped his passing game. And backchecking.

 

[Chrispy]

The teams do actively adjust to Laine's shot, and as a consequence the bastard has upped his passing game. And backchecking.

If he had to up his backchecking because they adjusted to his shot, I question whether he's upped his passing game.

 

[Lempo]

If he had to up his backchecking because they adjusted to his shot, I question whether he's upped his passing game.

Backchecking was a jokey reference to Seb's notion on Sara's twitter.

 

[Chrispy]

Backchecking was a jokey reference to Seb's notion on Sara's twitter.

I know, and almost put in that I knew in that post.

But that takes away from the punchline.

 

[Lempo]

I know, and almost put in that I knew in that post.

But that takes away from the punchlaine.

I make a pitiful attempt to rescue the exchange, but I think we lost this one.

 

[MinJaBen]

I make a pitiful attempt to rescue the exchange, but I think we lost this one.

Nope. It is even better now.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Umm....

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

The Magic Johnson of the Canes; love watching him go to work. Artful and delightful.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.

CHANGE THAT CURRENT INTEREST.

LOL! Trust me, I know. The issue is that their mother has been a bit hesitant about them watching contact sports. But recently she made a comment about being Open to them watching. I’m definitely going to send them some clips of the lacrosse goal and probably some of turbos passes too!

 

[Canes]

The main board thread about Svech's goal is exactly why hockey will never be popular. A large portion of hockey fans are a bunch of boring malcontents that complain and argue about absolutely everything.

 

[Chrispy]

The main board thread about Svech's goal is exactly why hockey will never be popular. A large portion of hockey fans are a bunch of boring malcontents that complain and argue about absolutely everything.

But I appreciate the person who noted it's a Russian Carolina Hurricane scoring a non-traditional goal and suggested naming the move "Cherry Bomb".

 

[Navin R Slavin]

The main board thread about Svech's goal is exactly why hockey will never be popular. A large portion of hockey fans are a bunch of boring malcontents that complain and argue about absolutely everything.

A large portion of every fanbase are a bunch of boring malcontents that complain and argue about absolutely everything. Hockey is no different in that regard.

 

[Tyche]

The main board thread about Svech's goal is exactly why hockey will never be popular. A large portion of hockey fans are a bunch of boring malcontents that complain and argue about absolutely everything.

A goal that has only been used twice successfully in the NHL and it's been done by one player at the age of 19.

"Yeah it's an alright goal but you know I don't really get the hype. Kind of a boring goal to be honest. Should be considered traveling honestly and it'll be outlawed soon anyways."

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

A goal that has only been used twice successfully in the NHL and it's been done by one player at the age of 19.

"Yeah it's an alright goal but you know I don't really get the hype. Kind of a boring goal to be honest. Should be considered traveling honestly and it'll be outlawed soon anyways."

I think that some folks tend to downplay just how good NHLers are. Just because some guys have done similar goals in a more visually beautiful way in some garbage league or some hot-shot youth tournament, doesn't mean that it isn't ridiculously difficult to execute with NHLers breathing up your back behind the net.

 

[Canes]

A large portion of every fanbase are a bunch of boring malcontents that complain and argue about absolutely everything. Hockey is no different in that regard.

I follow every major sport in the US and even many soccer leagues from around the world. It's my opinion that hockey fans are the worst. Much worse in many cases. Only some ultras from Europe are worse, but some hockey fans are trying to give them a run for their money. I don't want to make this overtly political so I'll just stop here.

 

[Tyche]

I think that some folks tend to downplay just how good NHLers are. Just because some guys have done similar goals in a more visually beautiful way in some garbage league or some hot-shot youth tournament, doesn't mean that it isn't ridiculously difficult to execute with NHLers breathing up your back behind the net.

The downplaying of players skills is beyond annoying. The skill gap between leagues is ridiculous. You see players light up Juniors and even the AHL but end up becoming 4th line grinders in the NHL or bust completely. And then you have players like Svech come in and in his sophomore year have the audacity to pull off this move successfully twice and you get some mouth breather saying it's really not that impressive blah blah blah blah. The downplaying happens to a lot of players though and it always makes my eyes roll deep into the back of my head. /endrant.

 

[Svechhammer]

Its not just the reaction to the Svech goals, its the reaction to pretty much everything that the Hurricanes have been doing for the past 2 years. Its a bunch of idiots upset the franchise didn't move to a more 'deserving' market and now will find issue with literally every single thing it does until the end of time. Cleaning house in the front office and coaching staff? What a bunch of idiots who don't know how to run a hockey team. Promoting Brind'Amour to head coach? Cheap lazy hire that shows how little they care to compete. Letting Chuck Kaiton go after numbers showed his paycheck wasn't worth the listeners he got? Insult to the fabric of the game itself. Trading for Hamilton? Stupid move to acquire a guy who doesn't care about hockey. Storm Surge? What an embarrassment to the game! Aho offer sheet? Shows how cheap the owner is and how little he cares to actually compete. Svech scoring 2 lacrosse goals before anyone else in the history of the league? Showboating kid who deserves to be cross checked into the injured reserve.

These people just can't help but show their ass when it comes to this team. And its such easy pickings to see it happen. Just look at the fool Jeff O'Neill made himself be in the 2018 summer predicting this team was a perennial joke only to see it become a legitimate top tier performing team on the ice in the span of 18 months. They'll continue to show their ass and we'll continue to dunk all over it. And they make it sooooo easy

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Its not just the reaction to the Svech goals, its the reaction to pretty much everything that the Hurricanes have been doing for the past 2 years. Its a bunch of idiots upset the franchise didn't move to a more 'deserving' market and now will find issue with literally every single thing it does until the end of time. Cleaning house in the front office and coaching staff? What a bunch of idiots who don't know how to run a hockey team. Promoting Brind'Amour to head coach? Cheap lazy hire that shows how little they care to compete. Letting Chuck Kaiton go after numbers showed his paycheck wasn't worth the listeners he got? Insult to the fabric of the game itself. Trading for Hamilton? Stupid move to acquire a guy who doesn't care about hockey. Storm Surge? What an embarrassment to the game! Aho offer sheet? Shows how cheap the owner is and how little he cares to actually compete. Svech scoring 2 lacrosse goals before anyone else in the history of the league? Showboating kid who deserves to be cross checked into the injured reserve.

These people just can't help but show their ass when it comes to this team. And its such easy pickings to see it happen. Just look at the fool Jeff O'Neill made himself be in the 2018 summer predicting this team was a perennial joke only to see it become a legitimate top tier performing team on the ice in the span of 18 months. They'll continue to show their ass and we'll continue to dunk all over it. And they make it sooooo easy

In fairness, I think this is EXACTLY what Tom Dundon wants. Because of that, it's hard to complain about it.

The way he kept this team in the press virtually every week since he bought the team isn't by accident. As far as he was concerned, any press was good press and if I had to guess, he was aiming for some of these exact reactions.

 

[Svechhammer]

In fairness, I think this is EXACTLY what Tom Dundon wants. Because of that, it's hard to complain about it.

The way he kept this team in the press virtually every week since he bought the team isn't by accident. As far as he was concerned, any press was good press and if I had to guess, he was aiming for some of these exact reactions.

Every league needs to have a villain. The thing is, in his effort to become the villain within the NHL, he's unlocked a rare achievement. They've exposed the old stuffy good ol boy network that hockey has long been based on that is a primary reason its not gained more traction in the sports world and basically turned the Hurricanes into the beacon of hope for anyone who wants the league to get away from it. And by doing so, we've turned the establishment into the villain.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I follow every major sport in the US and even many soccer leagues from around the world. It's my opinion that hockey fans are the worst. Much worse in many cases. Only some ultras from Europe are worse, but some hockey fans are trying to give them a run for their money. I don't want to make this overtly political so I'll just stop here.

Counterpoint: I, also, follow other sports, and you're wrong.

 

[Svechhammer]

lol there's a comment in the Matthews thread about "how any real fan knows how much more skill the Matthews goal took than Svech"

Hockey hipsters are amazing

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Every league needs to have a villain. The thing is, in his effort to become the villain within the NHL, he's unlocked a rare achievement. They've exposed the old stuffy good ol boy network that hockey has long been based on that is a primary reason its not gained more traction in the sports world and basically turned the Hurricanes into the beacon of hope for anyone who wants the league to get away from it. And by doing so, we've turned the establishment into the villain.

I disagree on that being why. Baseball, NFL, etc.. have long had "old stuffy good ol boy networks" as well. IMO, there are 2 main reasons why the NHL has not gained more traction (probably some I'm missing).

1) Much more limited access to the sport, particularly in southern climates. I grew up in the north and every kid I hung out with played baseball, football and basketball because we could easily play pick-up. Maybe 25% of the kids I hung out with played Ice Hockey and in many/most places, it's a high school sport. Access to ice, cost of gear, etc.. was a limiter. In the South, even with growth in roller hockey, I bet those numbers are tiny. My son played ice hockey and I bet less than 5% of his middle and high school played ice hockey. It's not a school sport either. Kids across the country just don't grow up playing it as much as other sports and are less interested. In a country where they do (Canada), it's got huge traction.

2) It's been traditionally a much more difficult sport to follow on TV (gotten better as TV technology has gotten better). NFL is tailor made for TV. Easy to follow, easy to see the ball and follow the play. NBA is similar. Easy to follow, easy to see the ball and follow the play. MLB is more difficult to see the ball, but the game is much slower so like the NFL, you can show a replay after every play (or every pitch).

Hockey has been very difficult to follow on TV, particularly if someone isn't overly familiar with the sport. It's hard to see the puck, the game is so fast and there aren't the stops in play like in Football or Baseball to show constant replays.