GDT: STORM FOLKS @ NEST OF SPINELESS BUZZARDS

[tarheelhockey]

And yet he'll never sniff a Norris Trophy because he doesn't score enough points.

Imagine that, the best defensive player in the league in the league can't win the Defensive Player of the Year because he doesn't contribute enough offensively.

I was hoping this might be the year, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen.

He’ll have to Langway it, which is pretty unlikely. It’s a damn shame because he’s absolutely a Norris-quality player. Better than some Norris winners actually.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I was hoping this might be the year, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen.

He’ll have to Langway it, which is pretty unlikely. It’s a damn shame because he’s absolutely a Norris-quality player. Better than some Norris winners actually.

ESPN doesn’t even recognize him as one of the top 100 players so that sure isn’t going to help his cause. f***ing nimrods.

 

[Svechhammer]

I was hoping this might be the year, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen.

He’ll have to Langway it, which is pretty unlikely. It’s a damn shame because he’s absolutely a Norris-quality player. Better than some Norris winners actually.

I'm not gonna lie, its a f***ing crime that Hamilton got all the national accolades here while Slavin has been pretty well ignored (at least until the playoffs come around and people once again get reminded that he's an elite player defensively). Don't get me wrong, Hamilton is a good player, but 10 times out of 10, I'm keeping Slavin over Hamilton, and yet all the writers would have you believe we gutted our defense this year by letting our best player walk in free agency. Hell, Pesce is pretty damn elite defensively as well, and most pundits won't bring him up when talking about the best defensive players in the league right now.

Slavin being left off the ESPN Top 100 players right now was a crime, and its was insulting that they did that while also putting in Weegar while labelling him "the next Jaccob Slavin?".

Lets be honest, the reason he isn't celebrated across the league is because of the logo on the front of his jersey and not the name on the back.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

The only reason this team is at the top of the various "power rankings" is that, with 0 losses, no one has a choice. It's telling to me that everyone still has the Avalanche at like a 20% chance to win the Cup because metrics or models or reasons.

And that's fine. Really, seriously, that's fine.

 

[zman77]

I'm not gonna lie, its a f***ing crime that Hamilton got all the national accolades here while Slavin has been pretty well ignored (at least until the playoffs come around and people once again get reminded that he's an elite player defensively). Don't get me wrong, Hamilton is a good player, but 10 times out of 10, I'm keeping Slavin over Hamilton, and yet all the writers would have you believe we gutted our defense this year by letting our best player walk in free agency. Hell, Pesce is pretty damn elite defensively as well, and most pundits won't bring him up when talking about the best defensive players in the league right now.

Slavin being left off the ESPN Top 100 players right now was a crime, and its was insulting that they did that while also putting in Weegar while labelling him "the next Jaccob Slavin?".

Lets be honest, the reason he isn't celebrated across the league is because of the logo on the front of his jersey and not the name on the back.

Wise comments Hammer!!
Dougie's Contract is a very bad one.
Pesce and Slavin were and are the Number 1 & 2 Dmen for the 'Canes.
I like Dougie, but not even close as much as New Jersey. That's good for the 'Canes.
Will the Devils make the Play-Offs?

 

[bleedgreen]

Great comeback and fun to watch.

Skjei was brutal all night. Soft on the puck repeatedly and it led to at least a goal and penalties.

Pesce should’ve broken a hip.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Great comeback and fun to watch.

Skjei was brutal all night. Soft on the puck repeatedly and it led to at least a goal and penalties.

Pesce should’ve broken a hip.

Yeah, Skjei and Svech in particularly had off nights. Bear was a little more shaky as well. Good to see them pull it out when not playing well, even if it was against a weaker team.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Pesce looked done, but then got up and was later laughing about it on the bench. Hope it was just a precautionary withholding. Also I thought the no touch icing was supposed to eliminate this kind of thing?

 

[Stickpucker]

I'm fine if next game Jarvis is still with Stepan and Lorentz, as that line has been good. I would like to see the "Martinook on the top line" experiment end though.

To the first point...I don't like it but they were 50% of our offense.

 

[SeaBasstian]

The only reason this team is at the top of the various "power rankings" is that, with 0 losses, no one has a choice. It's telling to me that everyone still has the Avalanche at like a 20% chance to win the Cup because metrics or models or reasons.

And that's fine. Really, seriously, that's fine.

What's even better is that I believe the ESPN rankings still has FLA ahead of us

 

[A Star is Burns]

What's even better is that I believe the ESPN rankings still has FLA ahead of us

Yeah, but they sourced the power rankings out to the College Football Playoff Committee, so, you know.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Resilient win. Certainly fell into the trap we fell into with Chicago at times last year of playing too loose at times, but still a nice comeback.

I've said it all along, I'd keep Jarvis and play him and I don't care about contract status in the future. I still feel that way so far. I think he'll get better as he plays more and eventually with better players more regularly.

Hopefully, Pesce will be okay. It would seem encouraging that he came back, but we'll see. I think we can handle some time without him if we have to.

Gotta hand it to the PK. Don't like all the 3rd period penalties, but the PK was outstanding.

Clearly not the best game we've seen out of Freddy but he still felt calm and collected most of the time. Sometimes you'll give up a weird breakaway, a weird tic-tac-toe goal where a guy soils himself several times as Skjei did, and a great tip by one of the best players in the world.

Keep crushing those six packs Derek.

"I've said it all along, I'd keep Jarvis and play him and I don't care about contract status in the future.

I also want him to stay up....now, the question is who gets dropped out of the 4 lines to have him play regularly. That's where I come short.

Thoughts?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

"I've said it all along, I'd keep Jarvis and play him and I don't care about contract status in the future.

I also want him to stay up....now, the question is who gets dropped out of the 4 lines to have him play regularly. That's where I come short.

Thoughts?

I think it's Nino. If Jarvis continues to play well, I think Nino is the odd man out and gets shipped at the deadline.

Or you send Seth back to juniors when Nino heals up and slot him in there next season, maybe.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I'm curious what they will do. They didn't call up Necas in 18-19 after sending him down early in the season, thus preserving the extra ELC year- but Necas had been bad in the early part of that season. Jarvis has played well, if the ELC weren't an issue he'd be on the roster permanently. And pushing him off from offseason '24 (when Aho, Teravainen and Pesce are all UFA's) to offseason '25 could potentially help with handling the UFA crunch.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Great comeback and fun to watch.

Skjei was brutal all night. Soft on the puck repeatedly and it led to at least a goal and penalties.

Pesce should’ve broken a hip.

I watched only third, but I had seen at least two Skjei Chaotic Evil plays.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

There are going to be injuries up front all season long. The 13th F on the organizational depth chart will play regularly.

 

[Helsinki Hurricanes]

I think it's Nino. If Jarvis continues to play well, I think Nino is the odd man out and gets shipped at the deadline.

Or you send Seth back to juniors when Nino heals up and slot him in there next season, maybe.

Or you keep Jarvis as the first call-up letting him play if there are injuries. Just make sure he plays less than 40 games which is the cutoff for an UFA year.

 

[Tryamw]

True, but he didn't "fall down all the time" as he is allegedly doing - and on what looked like pretty crappy ice (LOTS of guys were slipping and falling out there) - he's been pretty good. Saw a few distinctly positive shifts, checks, passes out there from KK last night.

That's Necas' job. (Falling all the time)

 

[A Star is Burns]

As I stated the other day, my goal, whether through acquisition or Jarvis (or both), would be to potentially have guys like Lorentz and/or Stepan coming out of the pressbox when injuries occur. And that's not an indictment on their play. They've played their roles well. Then, if you have a situation where a couple of guys are banged up in the playoffs, as I believe happened against Tampa, you are better prepared for it. I know a lot of folks wouldn't want to sit those guys. I know a lot of folks wouldn't want to move Fast down to the 4th for instance. But to me, that just would have us being that much better of a team with that much better depth. The guys in charge and Rod may not be in favor of it either, and I'll defer to them. Just the way I see it. I certainly would not be moving out a guy like Nino.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think the UFA crunch will be there either way. If the Canes sign Aho, and/or TT and/or Pesce in 2023, they are going to be long term deals, so whether its 2023 or 2024, the cap crunch will be similar (and Slavin is a UFA in 2024). Yes, it pushes the problem out 1 year, but doesn't really help the problem other than that 1 year.

My view is the Canes main cup contending window is now until Aho,TT, Pesce are UFAs (yes, I know some think it's longer given the prospect pool, but that's speculative). Given how this org has operated, I'm not convinced those guys will all be re-signed. A thousand things can happen between now and then so if Jarvis gives us a better chance to win a cup this year, then keep him and worry about the cap later. If he's going to sit and not play, then send him back.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

 

[tarheelhockey]

I think it's Nino. If Jarvis continues to play well, I think Nino is the odd man out and gets shipped at the deadline.

Or you send Seth back to juniors when Nino heals up and slot him in there next season, maybe.

Replacing Nino with a 175lb rookie going into the playoffs would be inadvisable.

IMO if we keep Jarvis up, then we’re committing to going into the playoffs fully loaded. No TDL trades, just roll with Seth in the pressbox and ready to step in as the Next Man Up.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

It's an 82-game hockey season.

Now that the dam has broken, it is highly unlikely we will be "fully healthy" at any point the rest of the year. Someone else will get hurt before Nino gets back, etc.

If Jarvis actually keeps this up, proves he's an impact NHL player already this year, etc., a fully healthy lineup might see Lorentz in the pressbox. But a fully healthy lineup is probably not something we will have to "deal with".

 

[Lempo]

I'm curious what they will do. They didn't call up Necas in 18-19 after sending him down early in the season, thus preserving the extra ELC year- but Necas had been bad in the early part of that season. Jarvis has played well, if the ELC weren't an issue he'd be on the roster permanently. And pushing him off from offseason '24 (when Aho, Teravainen and Pesce are all UFA's) to offseason '25 could potentially help with handling the UFA crunch.

My obligatory rant: the teams don't so much care about the ELC.

They got a legit NHL forward with lots of upside at 895k for three years, they should be happy.

The 40 games limit that brings the UFA one year closer for a 19 old guy is much bigger issue to them than burning an ELC Slide year.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I think it's Nino. If Jarvis continues to play well, I think Nino is the odd man out and gets shipped at the deadline.

Or you send Seth back to juniors when Nino heals up and slot him in there next season, maybe.

Even if I personally would agree with the strategy, selling FAs in a "championship window" year is a tough sell for fans.