Red Wings traded Pavel Datsyuk and 1st round pick for Joe Vitale a later 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.
Blackhawks traded Teravainen and Bickell for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
Panthers trade Crouse and Bolland for a 3rd round pick and a conditional pick.
Ducks trade Stoner and Montour for Corrado
that is the worst of them all. At least those other teams unloading a contract and giving up a good piece to do so got something decent back but of course not the Ducks with other teams fans wanting to totally screw us.
What team is spending 3-6 million for just a late 2nd round pick?
Team 2 gets a 2nd and a 3rd from Anaheim. They then send Stoner at 50% away for a late pick to another team. That is a 2nd + 3rd + late pick for a little over 3 million through 2 years for the eam 2. The 3rd team has a physical veteran bottom pair defenseman at a reasonable salary for a late pick. This isn't a bad deal for anyone.
This whole concept is flawed if you're basing it to be realistic.
1. This isn't the NBA where teams spend millions to acquire marginal draft picks
2. 3 way trades almost never happen
3. No one wants stoner at 50% off even for free!
What team wants stoner at 50% of his contract? Now what team wants to give up an actual asset for him at that contract when there were dozens of players that were available for cheaper and free? Dennis seidenberg just signed a 1yr deal for 1M, Quincey 1yr 1.3M, gryba 1yr 950k, grossman 1yr league minimum. Teams could have had their pick of these comparable players for cheaper and for FREE.
Bolland and Bickell are still useful NHLers too. Yet their teams had to add good assets to move those contracts. If this whole 3 way trade was possible to give up lesser assets don't you think those teams would have done it?
Bickell would have been at 2M for 1 year. Much better than Stoner at 1.65M per for 2 years.
There is no way a 3 way deal is happening like this. It would have already happened in the past with all the cap dump trades the last 2 years.
if 1 year of Bickell at 4M costs Teravainen I would say the cost to move Stoner is going to be more since Stoner has a 2nd year, and his cap hit is 800k less. Yes Stoner > Bickell but Bickell also plays fwd which means he can be hid easier by not having to play many minutes.
Now before I take a stab at realistic cost for Anaheim, keep in mind that Carolina gave up the 50th ovr pick along with Chicago's own 3rd round pick in 2017 which is projected to be late as well. They didn't give up their own early 2nd and early 3rd picks.
That means it was 1 yr Bickell 4M + Teravainen for late 2nd (50th pick) + late 3rd (80-90th) pick.
2 years of Stoner at 3.2M (6.4M) + Teravainen like player (Theodore/Larsson) for a late 2nd or early 3rd.
Or Stoner + 1st + Montour + 3rd for a late 2nd is something that seems equivalent that could happen
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EVEN IF Anaheim found a 3rd team willing to take Stoner at 50%, why would team 2 give the Ducks a major discount? Without them, Anaheim is screwed! The asking price comes down a bit as more teams would be interested now, but not to the point it would be a late 2nd and late 3rd. It would still be something like 1st at least. Just because the 2nd team is only on the hook for half of the 6.4M doesn't change the fact the ducks are getting out Scott free so they will have to still pay a premium.
Now you're going to say well another team may do it for less, but look at this thread, the asking price is around what I've said. So unless Anaheim comes closer to the asking price, Stoner is remaining a Duck.
