Injury Report: Stolarz Stretchered Out Of SBA During Game 1

[SprDaVE]

haha, probably the best approach by the Leafs given that no one on the current roster can enforce anything.

But this doesn't portend well to the rest of the series. No league repercussions, no on-ice repercussion = recipe for repeat behaviour from the Panthers. Why would they change, especially if they think this is a form of physicality and intimidation that works?

Pierre just loves to be the fluffer of the NHL and Parros.

 

[Lightsol]

Prediction- Bennett is not suspended (as being reported). In response, Leafs play hard and take similar liberties with a Florida player. Leafs player will then be suspended for several games

I'd love to see one of the bottom 6 guys run through the crease and drill Bob in the head the same way, simply to underline the double standard at play here. I don't want him hurt, but just to force Bettman and his stooges to come out and explain why it's okay when Bennett does it, but bad when a Leaf does it...

Also, I love how NHL.com just casually drops this in an article about Joseph Woll having to come in:

One aspect of the series that Woll needs to prepare for is the Panthers’ penchant for getting traffic around the crease. To that end, he received his initiation in the third period when Panthers forward Evan Rodrigues appeared to get tangled with a Toronto defenseman and ended up knocking the Toronto goalie down.

LOL, how hilarious, just the Florida Panthers trying to take out goalies...

 

[ACC1224]

Leafs have no one to answer for this. Best to forget about it and move on.

 

[IPS]

Prediction- Bennett is not suspended (as being reported). In response, Leafs play hard and take similar liberties with a Florida player. Leafs player will then be suspended for several games. And it will be the DoPS fault for purposely letting this happen.

We've seen this playback before

Very likely. Some posters earlier were saying they figure this is where Domi is going to shine.

 

[Twine Tickler]

As much as it pains me to say it, in a vacuum, I can see why Bennett will not be suspended for this play. There's just not enough there to constitute clear intent to injure IMO. That is if you remove all name bars and numbers from the jerseys. When you consider the clear pattern Bennett has formed over the years, it muddies the waters for sure.

That said, who f***ing cares. Go out and police the game yourself. Be disciplined if possible, but make sure he understands what is acceptable and what isn't going forward. If we have to kill off a penalty to settle the score, thats fine with me. Just make sure you make it count if you go to the bin, and absolutely make sure its not a major.

Bennett unfortunately has us exactly where he wants us. Distracted, and potentially undisciplined if we chase him around all game. I suspect the same leash that Stoly got on Greig will be afforded to us early on, but there will be a limit to how much the officials will be able to let slide before they start to lose the game. Like I said, make sure we make good on our licks, and if we have to kill even 1 penalty as a result, consider it an open and shut file. Can't be losing focus.

Stoly my guy, I hope you have a speedy recovery. You've been a rock all year. Get well, the boys will battle for you! This will not be the end of your season

 

[Metroid]

NHL is getting what it wants. Leaf player so much as breathes on a Panther, it'll be a suspension and then showcase how the NHL is working hard to make players feel safe from the big bad Leafs.

 

[Lightsol]

Should've taken out the stretcher on the ice. Put more pressure on the league for a suspension

They took Tavares off that way in the Montreal series, and Parros still let them off the hook...

 

[al secord]

Not sure why people were expecting anything. We've seen this movie before.

 

[Zack47]

Unfortunately, there is the prior shot that knocked his mask off to cover for Bennet's elbow. Just as with the hit against Knies mid-season, the hockey "brain trust" will find a way to justify this. It is disgusting. Here is my question: should intent to injure opposition players be the reason a team wins a series -- or should the game itself determine the outcome? Obviously a loaded question. The league has to be very careful about this, or it just becomes, or is, a WWE form of entertainment. A joke. I don't care if the elbow caused it -- it was an intentional elbow to the head of a key player. That's all that should matter. But just as with Knies' concussion, the response of the media and the experts will be pathetic, People have to think about what matters in this game, and stop the neanderthal stuff.

 

[Mentat]

The writing is on the wall, but i´ll wait for an official statement (or lack thereof) from the so-called DPS regarding this matter.
I fully expect the reports to be 100% accurate and Bennett getting away scott-free.

 

[al secord]

Tit for tat time. And losing Stolarz was a big tit which deserves a big tat response.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Not surprised its what i thought. The NHL does not care about protecting their players.

neither does the NHLPA.

 

[Woodman19]

I understand the whole "just win the game" mentality but let's be real. If they keep cheap shotting our best players so we win the series and come out of it with an AHL roster so we get utterly destroyed next round what's the point?

It's nice how player safety is such a concern until it gets in the way of marketing the game in the sunbelt.

 

[Al14]

Didn't he concuss Knies last time. Bennett needs to be held accountable, if not by the league then the leafs players

Forget our Leaf players taking revenge, the Toronto Mafia should visit with Bennett and leave him for dead !!!

And for that matter, the Toronto Mafia should warn every NHL Ref about the consequences should they choose to screw our Leafs too !!!

Now seriously, Shanahan should be ALL OVER the NHL on the Sam Bennett dirtiness and cheap shots. No suspension for Bennett, then he should seek to go on CNN/CTV/CBC to complain about Paros and the NHL DoPS !!!

 

[WilliamInLondon]

I'd love to see one of the bottom 6 guys run through the crease and drill Bob in the head the same way, simply to underline the double standard at play here. I don't want him hurt, but just to force Bettman and his stooges to come out and explain why it's okay when Bennett does it, but bad when a Leaf does it...

Also, I love how NHL.com just casually drops this in an article about Joseph Woll having to come in:


LOL, how hilarious, just the Florida Panthers trying to take out goalies...

You know, in the 80s and 90s when you had enforcers take up a whole roster spot (McSorley, Domi, Probert), the whole thing kind of just took care of itself on the ice. It's not because the game got faster or more physical since then. It's classic tit-for-tat reciprocity with on-ice fighting as a mechanism for ensuring clean play. Once these reciprocal engagements occur to a high enough frequency, they become codified into values and norms such as "the honour code" or "rules of engagement".

I feel like this generation of hockey lost sight of that - that by trying to arbitrage fairness through suspensions and reducing fighting, they're actually making the game more dangerous, especially if the punishments are mere slaps on the wrist.

If you look at peak Oilers, Kings, or the Red Wings, nobody cheapshotted with Gretzky or Yzerman - and got away with it lol. It isn't because they "revered" these players, it's because they knew Probert or McSorley would have pounded them into dust ON THE ICE lol. It was only when the league started reigning in fighting to try to make the game more marketable, that they started phasing out guys these enforcers, that guys like Bryan Marchment and eventually Raffi Torres began to injure players en masse. These 5, 10, 20 game suspensions were hardly a big enough deterrent for their on-ice behaviour.

There's something to be said about committing a crime on the ice and worrying about the consequences later via a possible suspension versus immediate punishment via getting your face smashed in by the opposing enforcer.

 

[VanW27]

This is the Panthers, their strategy is to push the boundary as much as they possibly can. And as much as people love a good conspiracy the much simpler reality is game management. The refs simply will not give one team too much of an "advantage" regardless of what's going on out there.

We need to fight back, but what we really need is the PP to get hot. The Panthers will be more than happy to take penalties and play dirty if we can't make them pay. The first round the Lightning had 1.5 minutes more PP time per game than anyone else and almost double what the Leafs and Sens had. But they went 2 for 18 and the Panthers just kept throwing dirty hits.

If Tampa's PP made them pay not only would that have won them a game or two but the Panthers would have to tone it down.

 

[Woodman19]

The best part of this is, everyone who has ever watched a game of hockey knows whats coming now that the league didn't take care of business, then the same league will have the surprised Pikachu face when what everyone knows is going to happen happens.

 

[Zybalto]

Shameful.

One of the worst player safety moves possible.

Following up their brutal moves in the Bolts/Panthers series, they now made it open season on the Panthers players (with suspensions to follow for the Leafs) and at the same time telling the Panthers they can do whatever they want. How is it possible DOPS is this stupid?

Theres a reason why this is still celebrated by the hockey world:



I still salute Tie for teaching that friggin rat a lesson after Ulf was protected by the league for years....and its probably coming for Bennett now. He's got that rep now. Like Daisy said before, he hid like a coward too not wanting to even make the "Sorry, I hope hes alright" statement every other player makes in these situations. Hope this lights a fire under the Leafs but watch out for taking things too far as doing the same thing as a Leaf will get you 5 games (I dont see this as any different than Bunting).

 

[Stephen]

Total bullshit.

Chief should have a talk with Maurice, Bennett, Bob and the refs at different times and places in the next few days.

Next time a Leafs D man needs to clear a puck, make it a slapper yay high at the Florida bench, see if it doesn’t knock the smirk off Maurice’s face.

 

[Stephen]

The best part of this is, everyone who has ever watched a game of hockey knows whats coming now that the league didn't take care of business, then the same league will have the surprised Pikachu face when what everyone knows is going to happen happens.

Parros does his job with malice, not ignorance.

 

[Lightsol]

You know, in the 80s and 90s when you had enforcers take up a whole roster spot (McSorley, Domi, Probert), the whole thing kind of just took care of itself on the ice. It's not because the game got faster or more physical since then. It's classic tit-for-tat reciprocity with on-ice fighting as a mechanism for ensuring clean play. Once these reciprocal engagements occur to a high enough frequency, they become codified into values and norms such as "the honour code" or "rules of engagement".

I feel like this generation of hockey lost sight of that - that by trying to arbitrage fairness through suspensions and reducing fighting, they're actually making the game more dangerous, especially if the punishments are mere slaps on the wrist.

If you look at peak Oilers, Kings, or the Red Wings, nobody cheapshotted with Gretzky or Yzerman lol. It isn't because they "revered" these players, it's because they know Probert or McSorley would have pounded them into dust ON THE ICE lol. It was only when the league started reigning in fighting to try to make the game more marketable, that they started phasing out guys these enforcers, that guys like Bryan Marchment and eventually Raffi Torres began to injure players en masse. These 5, 10, 20 game suspensions were hardly a big enough deterrent for their on-ice behaviour.

It ended with one of Bettman's first contributions to the NHL, the instigator rule which prevents enforcers from doling out punishment this way. Not a surprise cheap injury shots increased immediately.

 

[ACC1224]

One of the worst player safety moves possible.

Following up their brutal moves in the Bolts/Panthers series, they now made it open season on the Panthers players (with suspensions to follow for the Leafs) and at the same time telling the Panthers they can do whatever they want. How is it possible DOPS is this stupid?

Theres a reason why this is still celebrated by the hockey world:



I still salute Tie for teaching that friggin rat a lesson after Ulf was protected by the league for years....and its probably coming for Bennett now. He's got that rep now. Like Daisy said before, he hid like a coward too not wanting to even make the "Sorry, I hope hes alright" statement every other player makes in these situations. Hope this lights a fire under the Leafs but watch out for taking things too far as doing the same thing as a Leaf will get you 5 games (I dont see this as any different than Bunting).

A sucker punch may be the only form of retribution. The Leafs don't have anyone to square up with Bennett.

 

[Tarmore]

Not saying I know any better than the rest.

Alternative theory here.

1) Masks are designed to take a puck and not give a concussion to the wearer.
2) Woll was missing practices in the Sens series because of flu symptoms. It is possible that Stolie caught it. I had a strain just a couple of days ago that hit me suddenly, I felt like poop, puked once, a couple of hours was 75% next day was fine. ---- Hopefully it's that and not the other...

 

[Woodman19]

A sucker punch may be the only form of retribution. The Leafs don't have anyone to square up with Bennett.

What's Marty McSorley up to these days? I imagine it doesn't take much athleticism to slash someone's head from behind.

 

[al secord]

A sucker punch may be the only form of retribution. The Leafs don't have anyone to square up with Bennett.

Benoit can give it a go. But a cheapshot is probably warranted at this point. Doesn't have to be Bennett to get the point across.