Confirmed Trade: [STL/OTT] Mathieu Joseph and 2025 3rd round pick for future considerations

[RickyLafleur]

The NHL's designated farm team does it again!!

 

[Jersey Fresh]

The Sens are just a tragic franchise lol.

 

[guyzeur]

Trading for Giroux's buddy Konecny

Then why Perron? Expensive and slow 3rd liner?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

This should give the Sens enough room to give Pinto $5-5.5M and then fill out the last couple roster spots for league minimum deals.

 

[KapG]

Hope this doesn’t mean Bolduc down in the ahl

 

[Some Other Flame]

Damn, the Flames should have been all over this

 

[guyzeur]

Damn, the Flames should have been all over this

Couldn't do it cause the price goes up in Canada

 

[Reality Czech]

I don't understand why St. Louis paid a 2nd to get out of Hayes' deal just to start accepting bad deals for draft picks a few days later.

You'll find out soon enough.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Weird to choose Perron over MJ imo

Joseph is great for a month and is meh after. He probably got half his points in the first 15 games last year, and did the same the year the Sens got him.

I personally think he's overpaid, but getting a decent pick alongside him offsets that.

 

[IslesNorway]

Making space for Pageau

 

[Hale The Villain]

Joseph actually put up all of his 35 points in 72 games at even strength or on the PK.

Barely played on the PP and when he did it was almost always on the second unit after the first unit had their turn.

He brings great two-way play, elite speed and above-average forechecking and tenacity. The kind of player who helps you all over the ice and brings value when he's not scoring.

Looking at the insane contracts thrown around yesterday, pretty stupid of NHL GMs to pass up a 27 year old above average 3rd liner for only 2.95M for 2 years. Embarrassing really.

 

[guyzeur]

Trading for Giroux's buddy Konecny

But we got nothing left except Pinto, please don't take Pinto away!!

 

[OmniSens]

Brutal we had to give up a 3rd... Joseph still had trade value, in my opinion. Whatever, what's done is done. Now, sign Pinto!

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Short handed goals guaranteed, he’s a rocket and great on the PK

Kinda hoped we were keeping him, but lots of possible explanations.

Surprised we had to add a third.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

What's the status on Norris? I thought his health is a real question mark.

Apparently not if they're paying to teams to get rid of decent players.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

What's the status on Norris? I thought his health is a real question mark.

Apparently not if they're paying to teams to get rid of decent players.

Reportedly he'll be 100% by training camp, but I genuinely don't know what "Norris at 100%" means anymore.

 

[SirPaste]

I don't understand why St. Louis paid a 2nd to get out of Hayes' deal just to start accepting bad deals for draft picks a few days later.

Because Hayes is awful and is the slowest skater in the NHL, so they essentially moved down a round to get rid of him for a better player

 

[Kegu]

So even with his decent year the Sens had to pay to move him

Ouch

Good deal for Blues

Decent half year, with the first quarter being good.. but he was decidedly bad for the other half.

 

[Smif]

Feels like Ottawa is tanking on purpose.

 

[Pizza!Pizza!]

Ottawa taking a page from the Yzerplan I see

 

[shaner8989]

Poor Sens fans

 

[Mickey Marner]

If you’re going to keep the fire sale going, I’ll take Jake Sanderson and Brady Tkachuk.

 

[SensFactor]

What's the status on Norris? I thought his health is a real question mark.

Apparently not if they're paying to teams to get rid of decent players.

Norris will be ready for start of season, making great progress as per Staois news conference yesterday

 

[VanOriginal]

So Chychrun, Joseph and a '25 3rd round pick for Jensen and future considerations..... Did Staios go to the Jim Benning school of GMidiocy ... Thankfully he isn't trading Tkachuk

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

This trade isn't about Pinto.

They are going to bring in a #5 defenseman at a similar cap hit.

Pinto is staying on a bridge deal, if he stays. They now have 7.35M with an 18 player roster. Add Pinto and a D for a combined 5.5M-6.0M, another 1-2 six figure roster players, and that would be a 22 player cap compliant roster. If Hamonic goes on LTIR, there is possibly room to bring it up to 23 if the salaries are low.

If I had to make a prediction:

• They acquire a #5 D who makes 2M-3M.
• They bridge Pinto at 2 years 2.M-3.5M.
• They acquire Kaliyev from LAK and he signs a 1 year six figure "show me" contract to bridge him to arbitration.

People need to understand that Dorion handed Staios a young team with very few assets or cap flexibility. Most core players and secondary players were locked down with term. His job this offseason has been to dramatically change the room, but moving anybody has been difficult because of the contracts given out. They also cannot move any core guys. By the end of the off season, he'll have swapped out almost half of the active roster if he can mange to move on from a few more guys like JBD.

They badly need to make the playoffs this season because Giroux is a pending UFA, and Tkachuk's NMC is kicking in. While they obviously want to keep Tkachuk and build around him, if he is unhappy they may not want to enter a situation where his NMC activates with only 3 years of term remaining. If they trade him after his NMC kicks in, they will get a lot less than if they trade him this summer. So winning now avoids that situation all together by showing Tkachuk that this team can get him into the playoffs.

Their way of winning now is completely changing the coaching staff, and switching as many secondary or tertiary roster players as possible in exchange for long time veterans.