Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Pavel Buchnevich signs extension with the Blues (6 years, $8M AAV; begins 2025-26)

[Linkens Mastery]

What are the blues doing? They are acting like they want to finish too high for a good pick and too low to be a playoff team

Retool instead of tear down rebuild.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Retool instead of tear down rebuild.

Oh. My condolences.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Oh. My condolences.

Eh, it worked out in 2015-18 when they moved from the Backes core to the RoR core

 

[HockeyVirus]

Eh, it worked out in 2015-18 when they moved from the Backes core to the RoR core

It is usually very unsuccessful. Especially when there isn't a #1 C or #1D in the system, you will only get them from the draft but not pick high enough to get them

 

[Memento]

I seriously think Robert Thomas is the worst defensive center in the NHL. The numbers bear that out. He gave up 4.2 goals against per 60 at even strength in 22-23. This season was 3.1 goals against per 60. The numbers are almost identical between the 2 seasons when you isolate his ES minutes away from Buchnevich. He just played more with Buchnevich this year.

Again, Robert Thomas is as overrated as Laine.

He asked you where you were pulling your stats. Thus far, you haven’t answered where you pulled them. You have just cited numbers without proof of backing them up.

Therefore, the only logical conclusion is this: you’re pulling those numbers out of your ass out of some weird, jealousy-related Robert Thomas hate-fetish, like you’ve done on multiple Blues threads on here. Honestly, it’s a tad creepy.

 

[Double Dion]

You think he's worse defensively than Brayden Schenn?

Unequivocally.

He asked you where you were pulling your stats. Thus far, you haven’t answered where you pulled them. You have just cited numbers without proof of backing them up.

Therefore, the only logical conclusion is this: you’re pulling those numbers out of your ass out of some weird, jealousy-related Robert Thomas hate-fetish, like you’ve done on multiple Blues threads on here. Honestly, it’s a tad creepy.

Every analytics site has advanced stats. The free one that is good is

 

[bleedblue1223]

Unequivocally.

Well, that's all I need to know lol.

 

[HighNote]

It is usually very unsuccessful. Especially when there isn't a #1 C or #1D in the system, you will only get them from the draft but not pick high enough to get them

We’ve got the 1C covered, but we’re hoping one of our D prospects can become the guy. That or we’ll have to try to trade for a young D with #1 upside, which teams typically don’t trade, so. We’ll see.

 

[Memento]

Unequivocally.


Every analytics site has advanced stats. The free one that is good is View attachment 891957

And where’s the stats on the defensemen Thomas played with? Because everyone on our defense was putrid in 2022/2023, and he was mostly saddled with Kyrou whom - at that year; to his credit, he worked hard at improving last year - was one of the absolute worst defensive forwards in that year.

Buchnevich is underrated, true, but your stats on Thomas are skewed. Saying that Brayden Schenn is a better defensive center than Thomas only proves that you haven’t ever watched the Blues and that- as a Jets fan - you are simply jealous.

 

[HockeyVirus]

We’ve got the 1C covered, but we’re hoping one of our D prospects can become the guy. That or we’ll have to try to trade for a young D with #1 upside, which teams typically don’t trade, so. We’ll see.

I got nothing against the Blues (and honestly don't know a ton about them) so I hope it works out for y'all. Just usually, the "retool not rebuild" is infamous for making a team take twice as long to become competitive than if they just rebuilt.

 

[tfriede2]

I got nothing against the Blues (and honestly don't know a ton about them) so I hope it works out for y'all. Just usually, the "retool not rebuild" is infamous for making a team take twice as long to become competitive than if they just rebuilt.

Conversely, Ottawa, Edmonton (until last few years) Buffalo are examples of how teams can take a decade to rebuild. Both avenues (retool be rebuild) are risky, and neither come with any type of certainty.

 

[Sergei DRW]

Wow! 8 millions sounds steep

Do you think Darnell Nurse is worth 9.25 mln per year?

 

[BleedBlue14]

Yeah, we needed more assets. Trading the likes of Kasper at the deadline arent going to give us first rounders.



Forwards, absolutely.

The prospect pool at D is absolutely in the abyss.

Should have dealt him for a high end D prospect.

I’m not really sure the prospect pool at defense is that bad anymore.

Lindstein looks fantastic. He’ll probably push for a roster spot not this coming season but the following.

Jiricek is a complete wild card. He could either legitimately be a 1D or could bust out.

Ralph was a good pickup. Good skater, huge frame, not really too sure of what he is or will be entirely, but with the frame and skating I’d be surprised if he doesn’t get a decent amount of NHL time. He’s just probably 3+ years away being a college guy.

Not sure how high I am on Fischer but he has the bloodlines, and tools to be an NHLer

You’d expect another of the recent 3rd/4th round guys to hit at least to a certain degree.

We are much better off on that end than we were prior to this draft.