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Prospect Info: Stian Solberg

GunnarStahl said:
part of me wonders if the Farjestad coaches were concerned about playing him in playoff games due to his style of play. Perhaps both parties decided it may be time to make the move. @Webster thoughts?

Also, definitely interesting that both notable prospects on this team bowed out early.
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Short version: He was fed up...for reasons we have discussed in the prospect thread. I think he expected to play for Färjestad in the playoffs, but it sounds like Verbeek just wanted to get him out of there.
 
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CrazyDuck4u said:
I'm gonna put this blunt. They want to see him playing meaningful games. Because in the summer. One of zellweger or myntikov might get traded if Solberg plays great. If PV is going to land a big trade. One of my or zellweger might get traded.
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This is such a stretch. Solberg just turned 19 and didn't exactly blow the SHL away.
 
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Reveille1984 said:
Even after moving Drysdale we still have quite the defensive logjam, and I highly doubt all of these kid dmen are going to be with the Ducks org in the next 1-2 years. I'd say Gudas/Helleson/LaCombe/Minty are probably roster locks for next year, along with Trouba also being under contract for 25/26. And then we still have Zell/Luneau/Moore/Solberg/Hinds/Warren/Smith/etc. waiting in the wings.

If we strike out again this offseason on top 6 forwards, I don't think Verbeek is going to sit on his hands and run it back with the same forward groups again. I imagine he'll try to get something done from our defensive depth.
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I put Zellweger and Mintyukov in the same boat that I'd put Brandt Clarke in. Lot's of potential but a lot of serious work ahead for any of them to be legit top 4D. Would a team trade for any of them today in exchange for a TRUE top 6 forward? Probably not. How many teams have a legit top 6F who is in the Ducks target age range (i.e. under 25 or 26) that are willing to trade for essentially a futures package? Whatever the number, it's a small universe of teams. IMO.
 
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CrazyDuck4u said:
I'm gonna put this blunt. They want to see him playing meaningful games. Because in the summer. One of zellweger or myntikov might get traded if Solberg plays great. If PV is going to land a big trade. One of my or zellweger might get traded.
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This might be a take but I appreciate the feedback:

Even with Moore supposedly coming down the line, I still haven’t pictured a long term future with Zellweger here.

Mintyukov is the guy you want to develop as a true #1 ala Lindholm. I don’t know what or who a potential comparison could be for Solberg, but he’s another big piece to the puzzle. Then you have Hinds and Luneau - who Verbeek has praised constantly (and both have developed well apparently)

I think we choose a forward in this upcoming draft, but if we go defensively then it’s just more of a confirmation for me.

Maybe Zel is m the one you flip for another top six forward. Mintyukov would be the wrong choice.
 
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Webster said:
Short version: He was fed up...for reasons we have discussed in the prospect thread. I think he expected to play for Färjestad in the playoffs, but it sounds like Verbeek just wanted to get him out of there.
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Cant blame him when he keeps getting benched or limited ice time. Will be good to see how he performs in the AHL
 
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I really don't like this at all, I've looked forward seeing Stian in the play-offs this whole season. That being said, I think he somewhat put himself in this situation due to keep taking stupid penalties when he´s given icetime. In such a strategic league as SHL, stupid penalties can break a game and he's not shown that much progress in that area.

Also, he's looking for hits all the time and it's caused him to be overplayed thus making the coaches pick other defenders over him.

Again, would have loved to have him in the play-offs and I think he should have gotten more ice-time during the season but he is basicly the same player leaving as he came and not that much improvement.
 
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MrKriben said:
I really don't like this at all, I've looked forward seeing Stian in the play-offs this whole season. That being said, I think he somewhat put himself in this situation due to keep taking stupid penalties when he´s given icetime. In such a strategic league as SHL, stupid penalties can break a game and he's not shown that much progress in that area.

Also, he's looking for hits all the time and it's caused him to be overplayed thus making the coaches pick other defenders over him.

Again, would have loved to have him in the play-offs and I think he should have gotten more ice-time during the season but he is basicly the same player leaving as he came and not that much improvement.
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He had 16 PIM in 47 games. I don't need to have seen the games to understand how ridiculous this post is.
 
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zegrassyknoll said:
I take this as a good sign.

If Stian really had issues that needed to be worked out they would be punishing him like they did with Hot Rod.

Bringing him over is a reward and tells me that that the issue was with his SHL coach's philosophy (which is fine, the SHL coach should be more concerned with his job than with preparing prospects).
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Yeah it was much about this coach and how he tried to slow down Solberg's physical game. Compare this to Verbeek's comments after the draft, and you should get an idea on why they pulled the kid out of there.

"Stian Solberg is a throwback from a bygone era. I love how aggressive he is, how physical he is. There’s an edge in his game that we really liked. I think he’s a left-shot Radko Gudas that’s about three inches taller."
-Pat Verbeek.
 
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MrKriben said:
I really don't like this at all, I've looked forward seeing Stian in the play-offs this whole season. That being said, I think he somewhat put himself in this situation due to keep taking stupid penalties when he´s given icetime. In such a strategic league as SHL, stupid penalties can break a game and he's not shown that much progress in that area.

Also, he's looking for hits all the time and it's caused him to be overplayed thus making the coaches pick other defenders over him.

Again, would have loved to have him in the play-offs and I think he should have gotten more ice-time during the season but he is basicly the same player leaving as he came and not that much improvement.
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Besides being physical, what else is he good at?
 
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Webster said:
Yeah it was much about this coach and how he tried to slow down Solberg's physical game. Compare this to Verbeek's comments after the draft, and you should get an idea on why they pulled the kid out of there.

"Stian Solberg is a throwback from a bygone era. I love how aggressive he is, how physical he is. There’s an edge in his game that we really liked. I think he’s a left-shot Radko Gudas that’s about three inches taller."
-Pat Verbeek.
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When I heard about his yesterday, reading between the lines I assumed the move was because the Ducks (or Stian) were not happy with his development program. The injury excuse seemed implausible and the timing was very odd.

Perhaps not coincidentally, the ducks previously moved Clara from Färjestad BK reportedly because they were unhappy with his development. So perhaps the relationship between the ducks and Färjestad is not good.
 
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Smirnov2Chistov said:
I've been asking this question ever since he's been drafted really. Being physical is great, but what's his shot like, skating speed, breakout transitions, etc.
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What made him a consensus 1st round pick in '24 was his play at the men's WC tournament where he was able to compete very well against NHL level players. His skating was good and he showed some nice offensive instincts. The key now will be twofold: (1) developing those skills and (2) Solberg's desire to be a complete D and not just a hitter. Those keys will be the difference between him becoming a very valuable top 4D or a bottom pairing physical D. The tools are there...
 
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Smirnov2Chistov said:
I've been asking this question ever since he's been drafted really. Being physical is great, but what's his shot like, skating speed, breakout transitions, etc.
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If you don't know much about him you should watch this Solberg pre-draft analysis by Elite Prospects:
Prospect Info: - 2024-25 Ducks Prospects

Färjestad GM interview...not much we don't already know, but some good things:
"Stian is a very promising player who took steps forward with us. He has plenty of character and will be missed by his teammates, he's a popular kid in the locker room. We thank him for his time with us and wish him the best of luck in the future".
 
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