News Article: Statement from the Ottawa Senators regarding Eugene Melnyk - MOD Warnings-#9 & #143

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Vesa Awesaka

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Again guys, if you're considering it but on the fence I'd recommend applying before it's too late. One of us could be the one to save a life.

Gosh... im tempted. I'm just not anywhere near ottawa or toronto and would have to completely shut down my life for awhile. I dont know how the recovery process is either.

You are brave offering your organs. It certainly is a scary proposition in my mind.
 

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My best wishes to Mr. Eugene Melnyk I hope that a liver donor can be located for him......

All the best to him and his family, & loved ones as he fights this battle................
 

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Does anyone know if there are any medical histories that automatically disqualify you from consideration? Apart from the obvious blood diseases and liver problems?

Some yes, but that will be determined during the screening process. My brother was a live liver donor a couple of years ago. It's not that scary a proposition and the information above about not being able to contribute again in the future is false. Your liver regenerates and it is back to normal in a few months. The recovery time is not that long either, just like any surgery.

I think I'll put my name forward, Melnyk has done a heck of a lot for the community.
 

Vesa Awesaka

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Some yes, but that will be determined during the screening process. My brother was a live liver donor a couple of years ago. It's not that scary a proposition and the information above about not being able to contribute again in the future is false. Your liver regenerates and it is back to normal in a few months. The recovery time is not that long either, just like any surgery.

I think I'll put my name forward, Melnyk has done a heck of a lot for the community.

I think im just scared of surgeries. I had a surgery when i was younger when they forgot to use enough anesthetic.
 

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Isnt this deserving of a thread in the NHL talk main board ?... if he's in Toronto, maybe someone from Leafland will fill out the forms and offer... sounds like the match needs to be pretty specific, so the more people offering the better
 

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I am surprised that there hasn't been a financial reward offered up for somebody that matches...

I know if I had his money and was in his position... I would try to "buy" one...
 

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Wow, I had no idea Mr. Melnyk was sick. I hope they find a suitable donor.

And a celebrity like this spurring people to be tested for a liver match will have a positive result for other patients needing a liver transplant. More people will be tested, and more matches for other patients will be found.

By the way, don't read the comments on the CBC article about this, the supposedly "enlightened" leftists are quite a nasty lot.

I won't be mean about it and i haven't read any comments but if they're saying what I think they're saying I might actually have to side with their POV, but in a less nasty way.

Either way, humans are humans regardless of status so I wish him all the best and hope he gets better.
 

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I won't be mean about it and i haven't read any comments but if they're saying what I think they're saying I might actually have to side with their POV, but in a less nasty way.

Either way, humans are humans regardless of status so I wish him all the best and hope he gets better.

Melnyk is near the top of the list because of need. It sounds like he's going to die soon if he doesn't get a liver transplant.

It also sounds like the hospital, his family and his team staff were all saying "let us tell the community" and he was saying no up until now - when it's become desperate.

The comments section on that CBC article is pretty disheartening. A lot of idiots.

Most of the comments - especially the upvoted ones are: "oh rich guy jumping queue", "what about the other people on the list", "no special treatment".

How many of these same commenters remember the liver transplant of those twins girls from a month or two ago? Public plea, the dad gave one and a stranger stepped up.

Not to mention it shows none of those clowns understand how the wait list works. If you are on the verge of dying and the machines can't stall - you move to the top of the list. It's simple.
 

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Wow, I had no idea Mr. Melnyk was sick. I hope they find a suitable donor.

And a celebrity like this spurring people to be tested for a liver match will have a positive result for other patients needing a liver transplant. More people will be tested, and more matches for other patients will be found.

By the way, don't read the comments on the CBC article about this, the supposedly "enlightened" leftists are quite a nasty lot.

His plight will raise awareness for organ donation (particularly living donation), which do a lot of good for many people.

It's sad that the Sens have had to deal with so many serious health problems this year.
 

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Melnyk is near the top of the list because of need. It sounds like he's going to die soon if he doesn't get a liver transplant.

It also sounds like the hospital, his family and his team staff were all saying "let us tell the community" and he was saying no up until now - when it's become desperate.

The comments section on that CBC article is pretty disheartening. A lot of idiots.

Most of the comments - especially the upvoted ones are: "oh rich guy jumping queue", "what about the other people on the list", "no special treatment".

How many of these same commenters remember the liver transplant of those twins girls from a month or two ago? Public plea, the dad gave one and a stranger stepped up.

Not to mention it shows none of those clowns understand how the wait list works. If you are on the verge of dying and the machines can't stall - you move to the top of the list. It's simple.

All good points if what you say is true. The thought of jumping the queue based on status would be disheartening. I refrain from really throwing an opinion out because I don't know how the list works and whatnot.

I know it's on everyone's mind but I do wonder if this was a disease brought on by his lifestyle, we all know the hearsay. Either way I hope he pulls through.
 

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All good points if what you say is true. The thought of jumping the queue based on status would be disheartening. I refrain from really throwing an opinion out because I don't know how the list works and whatnot.

I know it's on everyone's mind but I do wonder if this was a disease brought on by his lifestyle, we'll all know the hearsay. Either way I hope he pulls through.

During the press conference they explained that Eugene did not want to go public. They convinced him now that he has no other choice - this is his last hope.
 

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Melnyk is near the top of the list because of need. It sounds like he's going to die soon if he doesn't get a liver transplant.

It also sounds like the hospital, his family and his team staff were all saying "let us tell the community" and he was saying no up until now - when it's become desperate.

The comments section on that CBC article is pretty disheartening. A lot of idiots.

Most of the comments - especially the upvoted ones are: "oh rich guy jumping queue", "what about the other people on the list", "no special treatment".

How many of these same commenters remember the liver transplant of those twins girls from a month or two ago? Public plea, the dad gave one and a stranger stepped up.

Not to mention it shows none of those clowns understand how the wait list works. If you are on the verge of dying and the machines can't stall - you move to the top of the list. It's simple.

Comments that say he "queue jumped" are wrong, but the top comments that say that the attention is just because he is famous are right. There are always people with serious medical issues, but you often don't hear about their struggles. It isn't wrong to suggest that public consensus places more importance on a case because it involves a celebrity. That doesn't mean these people don't want him to get better.
 

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Comments that say he "queue jumped" are wrong, but the top comments that say that the attention is just because he is famous are right. There are always people with serious medical issues, but you often don't hear about their struggles. It isn't wrong to suggest that public consensus places more importance on a case because it involves a celebrity. That doesn't mean these people don't want him to get better.

With the power of social media? Nowhere near as much:

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight...ve-bright-future-after-liver-transplants.html
 

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It's almost like they expect Eugene's family to ignore his status and allow him to die instead of trying every option they have.

Anyone and everyone would do the exact same thing in their position. Mr. Melnyk even tried to dissuade them from going public ffs.

So many misinformed, heartless idiots out there.
 

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Does anyone know if there are any medical histories that automatically disqualify you from consideration? Apart from the obvious blood diseases and liver problems?

I think the major ones are HIV, Hep C, recent alcohol/drug abuse, diabetes. Jaundice as well, if you had jaundice as an infant/child, it can sometimes make you unable to donate blood or organs, with a few exceptions (I fall under this category).

Other medical histories are restrictive, but don't necessarily disqualify you from donating. It just means it's less likely that you will be deemed a good donation candidate.



Best wishes to Eugene & the Melnyk family, by the way. Hard to see this kind of thing happen to anyone. Sens organization seems cursed with these sorts of hard life events lately, what with Murray and Reeds over the past year...
 
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MeticulouslyDishevel

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All good points if what you say is true. The thought of jumping the queue based on status would be disheartening. I refrain from really throwing an opinion out because I don't know how the list works and whatnot.

I know it's on everyone's mind but I do wonder if this was a disease brought on by his lifestyle, we all know the hearsay. Either way I hope he pulls through.

There are separate lists for cadaveric and living organ donation. Organs are matched based on pretty complex algorithms that take a whole bunch of data into account (like tissue typing, antibodies, time on the list, etc), and if the lists are all anonymous and run by national registries. They know that the whole system is based on integrity, and that people would be reluctant to donate if organs weren't allocated on the basis on need. There's no way that he could buy his way up to the top of one of these lists.

Melnyk is looking for a living donor, which most commonly occurs when people donate to specific relatives or friends. It's a separate process from being matched on an anonymous list. He's looking for a directed donation and he has a rare blood type, so it most likely wouldn't take an organ away from someone else (there aren't a lot of people who randomly offer up an organ for "any random person who happens to be on the list" in the absence of a public plea or a chain of transplants).

Organ transplantation isn't a cure but more like trading in of one problems (the disease that's going to kill you) for another (risk of organ rejection, side-effects of anti-rejection medications including weaker immune system and increased risk of cancer, graft vs host disease, etc.) Patients have to follow a strict regimen of medications and testing afterwards to try to limit rejection. Doctors won't list a patient for transplant if they don't think that he/she will comply with post-transplant treatment - they're not going to waste a scarce organ on someone when there are others who would take good care of it. In Ontario a patient must abstain from alcohol for at least 6 months in order to be eligible for a liver transplant. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/liver-transplant-ethics-should-alcoholics-be-sober-first-1.2934786

We don't know if his lifestyle contributed to his health problems or if it's something completely outside of his control. Since its a voluntary system people don't have to donate.
 

Caeldan

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Im probably gonna apply, the chance of receiving some compensation out of this outweighs the risks for me.

Any non-family member is an anonymous donation it would appear based on the reading, even for directed donation.

Though supposedly after a sixth month wait period, if both sides wish to meet - then it may happen.

However, it also looks like some of the screening reasons include whether you're being altruistic or hoping for a payout based on what they list as questions discussed.
 

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Any non-family member is an anonymous donation it would appear based on the reading, even for directed donation.

Though supposedly after a sixth month wait period, if both sides wish to meet - then it may happen.

However, it also looks like some of the screening reasons include whether you're being altruistic or hoping for a payout based on what they list as questions discussed.

But I would know first thing my organ is going to Melynk, because thats the only possible person it could go to. After that I could just make it public.
And would they actually disqualify me and risk his life, if I do state that I intend to be compensated?
 
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