Start Martin Jones in Game 4
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Jones should start. They run quick a lot. And he's completely lost his cool. He's vulnerable. Sharks are in his head big time.
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What do you expect from a magazine that published an article which openly stated that anyone who criticizes a colored hockey player is a closet racist...
Expectations weren't high.
Of course he is vulnerable high. This has been common knowledge since 2010. Quick's vulnerability high is due to his near perfection down low.
Most goalies, btw are vulnerable high anyway. Quick is just a bit more so.
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I think most people, and apparently paid journalists (who by the way vote on the awards
), forget every player has a weakness!!!
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Regardless, taking the article's arguments on its merits, would you play Martin Jones or Jonathan Quick on Thursday? Is it likely that Jones would do worse? If you choose Quick, is it because of his reputation or performance? If you were the coach, would you be afraid of damaging your relationship with Quick if you didn't play him? Quick was pulled in Game 1 and, if memory serves me, Jones did not let in any goals.
If Quick was not a Conn Smythe-winning goalie, would this be as much of an issue? I'm open to arguments either way.
If Quick was not a Conn Smythe-winning goalie, would this be as much of an issue? I'm open to arguments either way.
I'd play Jones for the experience, maybe give San Jose something to think about with a relative unknown. I wouldn't be benching Quick based on performance, but this is me looking ahead to next season and the season after that, not thinking they can win this series.
I doubt Sutter starts Jones. It's not his style to throw in the towel like that and he prefers the team to win or lose on its own merit.
I doubt Sutter starts Jones. It's not his style to throw in the towel like that and he prefers the team to win or lose on its own merit.
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The only reason quick would be in net next game is so his feelings don't get hurt and reputation.
Using logic, you don't put a guy out there that's losing his mind when players keep running him.
Using logic, you don't put a guy out there that's losing his mind when players keep running him.
This is true and Ken Campbell is a fool. It's amazing how people assume that just because an individual took journalism in school and fell into hockey writing, that makes the writer a hockey expert. Far from it. A writing expert? Sure. Knowledgable hockey thinker? Possibly but in Campbell's case absolutely not.
Jones wouldn't be the solution for the kings not having an answer for the sharks team speed and transition game which is burning holes in L.A's defensive coverage. Jones wouldn't have any influence on the kings giving numerous odd man rushes all series long. Jones is not the difference between one team (SJ) playing with fire, intensity and passion while the other for the most part (L.A) looks like they are skating in mud.
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Quick is the most mentally tough player on this team. His "feelings" wouldn't get hurt.
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Using logic you dress a Conn Smythe Stanley Cup winner who just won the Jennings Trophy over a rookie whose never started a NHL playoff game in his life.
I argued with Campbell on twitter last night about this very thing.
He is entirely wrong. If he thinks Jones can steal a game, or that the swap somehow gives the Kings a better shot at winning a game he is fooling himself.
Quick IS the guy. He should start and he probably will.
He is entirely wrong. If he thinks Jones can steal a game, or that the swap somehow gives the Kings a better shot at winning a game he is fooling himself.
Quick IS the guy. He should start and he probably will.
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In all fairness, Jones earned a piece of that Jennings award, even if not officially because of the 25-goal rule.
If Quick is THE guy even after letting in 16 goals in 3 games, what is your threshold? At how many goals would you put Jones in for Game 4?
I don't know the right answer, but I'm trying to understand various goalie strategies here.
If Quick had given up 16 goals on tweeners, flubbed glove saves, really bad rebounds, mishandling the pucks, etc Jones would already be in, but he's actually limited those goals quite a bit in this series.
The same guy who was holding on to Coutures leg like a little kid.
"Most mentally tough" Doesn't mean you can't lose it. That's a bull **** excuse. The guy has been looking at the refs and looking unfocused.
Yes I rather start a rookie who's had many shut outs and was part of the reason the kings won the jennings. Yes I rather start the guy who hasn't been getting ran consistently and looking at the refs. Because I want someone who's head is in the game. And 16 goals in three games, this is not quick-like.
If you think he's not losing it on the ice then you are watching a different game and haven't seen how great quick can be when he's on and focused. How far can some people homer?
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Exactly. I'd say of all the goals he's given up, maybe 2 were one's you could say were on hm. A flubbed shot,a defenseman laying on top of him and a deflected shot he was in perfect position to save does not warrant him sitting. We got where we are with him and will ride him til the end.
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The one he got knocked over by Regehr, and the other two were deflections, where Quick was there. If Burns actually gets his stick on the puck, that's probably a goal anyway, but Quick had to get over there to stop the shot quickly, which is why it looks like he ended up overplaying the angle. The OT goal, if Regehr doesn't screen Quick, it's an easy save.
Hockey is a game where it takes a while to win or lose. You can play losing hockey and win, or winning hockey and lose. Eventually things align, and you get either a blow out win or blow out loss. Then things settle down again, and things start a swing the other way.
What happened last night was that the Kings continued to pay for their poor play in Games 1 and 2. In the playoffs, you don't have 5 games to figure things out. It has to happen quickly. The Kings played better last night, and still lost. If the Kings play better than they did in Game 3, they'll win Game 4, even if the most overrated goalie in the league is in the net.
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Starting jones is a no win situation. Just lose with quick in net and get thing right in the offseason.
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I didn't bother with the article but pulling a goalie because a team is playing poorly in front of him isn't unheard of. I think it is usually done with the mindset that it will get the players to respond. Honestly, what do the Kings have to lose? Is anybody really confident in Quick right now? I think the Sharks scored on their first shot last night. Quick has been barking at the refs and looking for calls. If people think he has been as focused as he has been in the past, I respectfully disagree. I think Quick has been "rattled" since that dude ran him at the beginning of game 1. I'm not blaming the losses on Quick, I'm simply saying that sometimes making a switch jumpstart the team and the Kings really have nothing left to lose.
That being said, the Kings will probably lose Game 4 no matter who starts from either roster at any position.
That being said, the Kings will probably lose Game 4 no matter who starts from either roster at any position.
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