GDT: Stars @ Devils - 6:00 PM - MSG

[SteveCangialosi123]

You say this after every loss as if the nearly two months of middling play hasn’t happened.

Oh no, middling play for 2 months. They must be far down in the standings.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Oh no, middling play for 2 months. They must be far down in the standings.

Great, some acknowledgment. Maybe now you can stop with the patronizing “panic because they lost a game” shtick. They've lost a lot more than just this one and after each one, we have to hear whatever litany of excuses from you why it doesn’t actually matter and anyone else that doesn’t ascribe to that is wrong.

I feel like you haven’t actually considered that *you* might actually be the one that’s wrong - don’t think you’d act so persistently smug if you did.

 

[Bleedred]

That dude has to be somewhat of a parody.

Guy is probably about 50 years old and acts like a comedy TV show character.

I don’t even think the people most down on this team think they’ll go 0-5 on this road trip.

Even I was thinking 2-3 or so.

Probably beat one of Colorado, Vegas or Dallas and beat just one of Nashville and Utahrizona, with the one that isn’t a win being some pathetic loss that make a few of us turn into Frank for a night.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Oh no, middling play for 2 months. They must be far down in the standings.

What does this even mean? They have been middling for 65% of the season thus far, they aren’t far down in the standings because they built up a cushion with their good record in the first 25ish games.

At least you’ve gotten to the point where you’re no longer pretending they haven’t been middling for a very long time.

 

[NJDevs26]

And btw how many games do all the Baghdad Bobs really think they're going to win in the next six with offense like this? At Colorado, at Dallas, at Vegas, home against Winnipeg after the five game trip? Tomorrow's one of the 'easier' on paper in this stretch

 

[Bleedred]

Team is 8-10-3 since Christmas.

If they win and get points at only this same clip for the final 24 games they’ll finish with 90 points.

That may be enough to just barely make it or just barely miss.

And their schedule will probably be tougher, as I don’t think there’s another 8 game stretch like Philly x3, Ottawa, Boston, Montreal, Buffalo, Pittsburgh or 9 of 10 with those teams with Montreal twice and Vegas being the only clearly good team we face in 10 games. And we still only went 5-5-0 in those 10.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Great, some acknowledgment. Maybe now you can stop with the patronizing “panic because they lost a game” shtick. They've lost a lot more than just this one and after each one, we have to hear whatever litany of excuses from you why it doesn’t actually matter and anyone else that doesn’t ascribe to that is wrong.

I feel like you haven’t actually considered that *you* might actually be the one that’s wrong - don’t think you’d act so persistently smug if you did.

No, the whole “string every single loss together and ignore any and all context” is still really stupid and annoying.

Throw your fit, that’s fine. They played well against a top 5 team in the league and lost. You can toss it with the rest of the games for your narrative. A very fun way to go through a season.

Nice to see that you’ve taken a break from crying about Jack’s 4 nations performance and ignoring all context there to do this though.

 

[Bleedred]

And btw how many games do all the Baghdad Bobs really think they're going to win in the next six playing like this? At Colorado, at Dallas, at Vegas, home against Winnipeg after the five game trip? Tomorrow's one of the 'easier' on paper in this stretch

2-3 would be my guess.

1 win against one of the three good teams and 1-1 against the two humpties. With the loss being something really embarrassing like the loss in Arizona last year or possibly another blue balls deluxe comeback tease that falls just short. Much like tonight or that last game in Buffalo.

Maybe that 3 turns into a 1 for an OT/shootout loss and we go 2-2-1.

If the road trip goes badly and the first game back against Winnipeg is another doozy like the only two games played there in the last 30 days prior it will be a very tough crowd.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Well at least Jack scored 2 and shut some people up.

I switched to the Red Bulls game at 7:30 and watched them lose 1-0 and then watched the rest of this on the DVR and was hoping for a big come back win but yup. Sports suck this past week.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

No, the whole “string every single loss together and ignore any and all context” is still really stupid and annoying.

Throw your fit, that’s fine. They played well against a top 5 team in the league and lost. You can toss it with the rest of the games for your narrative. A very fun way to go through a season.

Nice to see that you’ve taken a break from crying about Jack’s 4 nations performance and ignoring all context there to do this though.

Now who’s throwing the fit?

I didn’t strip any context from Jack’s four nations play. There were a few things working against him for sure. I’m not such a wool over the eyes homer that I’d seriously trot out shot suppression charts to avoid calling him out when he doesn’t play well like you, though. It’s not unlike the way you see everything through company man glasses to not shatter your fragile pre-existing ideas about the team itself, tbh.

Glad you’ve stopped banging the drum about how they’re just losing because of “fatigue”, though. That’s so seven weeks ago, I guess.

 

[guitarguyvic]

No, the whole “string every single loss together and ignore any and all context” is still really stupid and annoying.

Throw your fit, that’s fine. They played well against a top 5 team in the league and lost. You can toss it with the rest of the games for your narrative. A very fun way to go through a season.

Nice to see that you’ve taken a break from crying about Jack’s 4 nations performance and ignoring all context there to do this though.

Seriously, just take the L. This team hasn’t even cracked .500 in two months worth of games. I don’t even know what it is you’re arguing anymore, it just seems like you’re hell bent on grasping at straws to insist they are better than they really are.

I’m starting to wonder if this is just a bit or something.

 

[Bleedred]

Haula at this point seems to really be 14-15 Zubrus or 15-16 Ruutu levels of washed.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

What does this even mean? They have been middling for 65% of the season thus far, they aren’t far down in the standings because they built up a cushion with their good record in the first 25ish games.

At least you’ve gotten to the point where you’re no longer pretending they haven’t been middling for a very long time.

They’ve been middling for 65% of the season…lol. Good god. How good is this team when they’re cooking then? They still have a top 5 goal differential.

I miss the days of complaining about Lindy and the goalies. Now our top defense and great goalie play don’t even get a mention. It’s not like those things matter at all or are reasons why you should buy this team. Gotta focus all the attention on bottom 6 scoring depth.

 

[Oneiro]

NVM

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Seriously, just take the L. This team hasn’t even cracked .500 in two months worth of games. I don’t even know what it is you’re arguing anymore, it just seems like you’re hell bent on grasping at straws to insist they are better than they really are.

I’m starting to wonder if this is just a bit or something.

To make the playoffs:

Alert Vegas about the “hasn’t even cracked .500 in two months” rule that takes teams out of contention. It doesn’t seem to have impacted their odds to make the playoffs or the Cup.

 

[guitarguyvic]

They’ve been middling for 65% of the season…lol. Good god. How good is this team when they’re cooking then? They still have a top 5 goal differential.

I miss the days of complaining about Lindy and the goalies. Now our top defense and great goalie play don’t even get a mention. It’s not like those things matter at all or are reasons why you should buy this team. Gotta focus all the attention on bottom 6 scoring depth.

Now goal differential is the thing? lol. They have lost a lot of one goal games - yes I know you’re gonna attribute that to bad luck. It definitely has nothing to do with their wildly inconsistent scoring from game to game, which is a result of them relying relying almost exclusively on 3 guys who can generate a lot but are still only average finishers.

This team has been mid for most of the season now, and it’s cause 2/3 of our forward group can’t be relied upon to produce at the rate they were expected to when this season began. You’re shocked that that’s what we are talking about?

In the words of ZBC, some of you are just weird.

 

[guitarguyvic]

To make the playoffs:
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Alert Vegas about the “hasn’t even cracked .500 in two months” rule that takes teams out of contention. It doesn’t seem to have impacted their odds to make the playoffs or the Cup.

L - O - L ok I’m convinced this has to be a bit.

I’ve never even said I don’t think they are gonna make the playoffs, but you do you man. You’re committed to this thing.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

L - O - L ok I’m convinced this has to be a bit.

I’ve never even said I don’t think they are gonna make the playoffs, but you do you man. You’re committed to this thing.

I never said they weren’t gonna make the playoffs, just that they’ve been bad for 89% of the season and the roster is bad and there’s no reason to think they’ll be better to finish the year because they’re losers that don’t know how to win. The fact that Vegas still sees them as a legitimate contender doesn’t mean anything, you must be doing a bit if you’re not shitting your britches after a loss to the Stars.

 

[My3Sons]

That dude has to be somewhat of a parody.

Guy is probably about 50 years old and acts like a comedy TV show character.

Be a man and alert me if you are going to openly mock me like that.

I went with that over “I can’t imagine anything worse than being 50 and such a parody you come across like a charcter in a tv comedy”.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Fold the franchise. We lost a game.

 

[guitarguyvic]

I never said they weren’t gonna make the playoffs, just that they’ve been bad for 89% of the season

You made up 89%, that’s not what I said.

and the roster is bad

I’ve never made a generalized statement about our entire roster like this.

and there’s no reason to think they’ll be better to finish the year because they’re losers that don’t know how to win.

Also not anything I’ve ever said.

The fact that Vegas still sees them as a legitimate contender doesn’t mean anything

This is a wildly simplistic understanding of how betting odds work, I’m not even gonna broach this subject in detail because I’d rather talk actual hockey.

, you must be doing a bit if you’re not shitting your britches after a loss to the Stars.

Trying to be honest about what this team looks like does not = “shitting your britches”, and this is you again pretending that this is a one game thing and not a pattern of performance over a good sample size now.

I too could also arrogantly dismiss other people’s perspectives if I just completely misrepresented what they were saying. Well done.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Fold the franchise. We lost a game.

Is it that we lost a game? Or is that we keep seeing the same pattern of offensive issues and we’ve lost more games than we’ve won for two months now?

 

[NJ07102]

Timo Meier ist such a joke. Just not a funny one.

 

[njdevil26]

Really wondering when Fitz will do something/anything. It's kind of crazy.

 

[Clam Jensen]

I didn’t watch any of the game but advanced stats show the 3rd line and Luke/Nemec stinking, but the rest looked good? Put in Casey for Nemec.