Speculation: Stammergeddon 2024: Is Stamkos going to re-sign with the Lightning?

[DFC]

Even with Stamkos and Guentzel I don't think we have enough depth to push guys down. Cirelli is still the 2C.

This is why I'd rather have Bertuzzi too. I think he comes in around 6m. That leaves room for, maybe Kane on a discount? Suddenly we have the best top6 in the league again.

But I mean, whoever we get, it still pushes someone down. I think the most likely path forward is Guetzel + a serviceable RHD.

However you slice it, considering what Sergachev's role would have been, we are going to be a better team, and possibly good enough for a couple more real cracks at a cup.

 

[The Gongshow]

That's the same thing we did last year, sub Duclair for Guentzel. That second line worked well the end of the year. I'm just saying we're still not pushing anyone down to the bottom lines.

I'm theory you could drop Cirelli to 3C with Paul ans Ace at the wings gor a shutdown line, or bring Paul up to 2nd line with Stamkos and a top 6 winger FA they sign.

They probably don't have enough cap to bring in a 3rd line guy if they sign a big top 6 FA and Stammer and then pay Moser.

Sheary (as of right now, he could still be moved) will probably get a crack on the 2nd line again, so that could drop Cirelli to improve 3rd line depth

 

[Rschmitz]

If the coaching staff wants to squeeze more offense out of our third line, don't discount Geekie making 3C out of camp. Paul-Geekie would be a formidable duo, and then you can pray Sheary turns a corner or put Essyimont on that line.

Glendening and Chaffee should be our fourth line guys.

 

[Sky04]

Trade Cirelli too and we're in a very good position capwise to add to said depth.

 

[JTBF81]

Prob. That leaves roughly $11.5 in cap left? If Guentzel gets 8 that leaves $3.5 to resign Moser and fill the rest of the holes.

Won't be enough for Stamkos, Guentzel, Moser, a 7th dman, and 2-3 additional F. If they move Sheary and Perbix,.or at least save some.by waiving or buying out Sheary, it might work.

 

[JTBF81]

Cirelli won't be moved at this point. I'd look tomre-sign Stamkos at 5ish, go after Carrier around 3.5, clear at least some of Sheary, if not all, and trade Perbix. Sign Moser for around 2.5 maybe, then sign Tarasenko at 4-4.5. Fill in the 3rd line with someone like Martinook around 2.5, and then re-sign Motte and promote Goncalves and one of Lilleberg/Crozier. It would be close, but Tampa could make something similar to that work.
Hagel-Point-Kuch
Stamkos-Cirelli-Tank
Martinook-Paul-Ace
Motte-Glendening-Chaffee

Hedmsn-Raddysh
McD-Cernak
Moser-Carrier
Looks pretty good to me.

 

[Rschmitz]

Apparently Moser can play RD. Don't rule out Moser pairing up with Hedman, for the first time since Stralman Hedman has a guy who can do a great job covering for him if he wants to join the attack.

 

[Peacefool]

Apparently Moser can play RD, and he's Swedish. Don't rule out Moser pairing up with Hedman, for the first time since Stalman Hedman has a guy who can do a great job covering for him if he wants to join the attack.

Hes from Switzerland so his Swiss

 

[Rschmitz]

Hes from Switzerland so his Swiss

Oh you're right. I can't read

 

[Crunchrulz]

Gotta give Stammer his 5m now, right?

At least now that there is Cap Space.

Prob. That leaves roughly $11.5 in cap left? If Guentzel gets 8 that leaves $3.5 to resign Moser and fill the rest of the holes.

Signing Guentzel puts us right back to where we were before the trades regarding not having Cap Space to fill a competent roster. Let us wait to see who is available on the 1st for a reasonable contract and what holes we have left to fill BEFORE we drop nearly all of our remaining space in one contract.

 

[Zwui21]

At least now that there is Cap Space.


Signing Guentzel puts us right back to where we were before the trades regarding not having Cap Space to fill a competent roster. Let us wait to see who is available on the 1st for a reasonable contract and what holes we have left to fill BEFORE we drop nearly all of our remaining space in one contract.

If you have the chance of signing Guentzel, you do it.
He's literally right there with Kuch and Point in term of ability to elevate his game during Playoff. He'd be an insane add for our postseasons shenanigans.

Truly hope we can sign him.

 

[Todd1a]

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If the coaching staff wants to squeeze more offense out of our third line, don't discount Geekie making 3C out of camp. Paul-Geekie would be a formidable duo, and then you can pray Sheary turns a corner or put Essyimont on that line.

Glendening and Chaffee should be our fourth line guys.

Cirelli won't be moved at this point. I'd look tomre-sign Stamkos at 5ish, go after Carrier around 3.5, clear at least some of Sheary, if not all, and trade Perbix. Sign Moser for around 2.5 maybe, then sign Tarasenko at 4-4.5. Fill in the 3rd line with someone like Martinook around 2.5, and then re-sign Motte and promote Goncalves and one of Lilleberg/Crozier. It would be close, but Tampa could make something similar to that work.
Hagel-Point-Kuch
Stamkos-Cirelli-Tank
Martinook-Paul-Ace
Motte-Glendening-Chaffee

Hedmsn-Raddysh
McD-Cernak
Moser-Carrier
Looks pretty good to me.

Can bury Sheary in the minors if needed and eat the dead cap hit

If you have the chance of signing Guentzel, you do it.
He's literally right there with Kuch and Point in term of ability to elevate his game during Playoff. He'd be an insane add for our postseasons shenanigans.

Truly hope we can sign him.

8 AAV would be the max I’d pay guentzel but if we get Stamkos to take 4.5 aav or 5 we can make it work just need to dump Sheary somewhere

 

[T REX]

Well...LFGGGGGG

Crow ravioli tonight!

Nice brown butter sauce.

Bon Appetit!

 

[JTBF81]

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Can bury Sheary in the minors if needed and eat the dead cap hit


8 AAV would be the max I’d pay guentzel but if we get Stamkos to take 4.5 aav or 5 we can make it work just need to dump Sheary somewhere

It's pretty tight even dumping Sheary. They'd have 18.5 available, but Stamkos+Guentzel would eat up ~13 easily. Moser probably 2.5-3, and after signing a 7th dman-likely either Lilleberg or Crozier, let's say Motte or similar around 800-900k, and promoting Goncalves for example at 775k, they'd be maxed out with only a 21 player roster. If Moser came in closer to 2, they could squeeze 22 players perhaps, but I doubt Moser comes in that low. I'd spread the space more ad in my above example and have a good 2nd line still while adding onntbe 3rd line amd at RD rather than spending it all on Guentzel.

 

[Todd1a]

If you have the chance of signing Guentzel, you do it.
He's literally right there with Kuch and Point in term of ability to elevate his game during Playoff. He'd be an insane add for our postseasons shenanigans.

Truly hope we can sign him.

Yep for sure then a second line of hagel,Cirell and stamkos that’s a actual legit top 6 compared to what we had

 

[Crunchrulz]

It's pretty tight even dumping Sheary. They'd have 18.5 available, but Stamkos+Guentzel would eat up ~13 easily. Moser probably 2.5-3, and after signing a 7th dman-likely either Lilleberg or Crozier, let's say Motte or similar around 800-900k, and promoting Goncalves for example at 775k, they'd be maxed out with only a 21 player roster. If Moser came in closer to 2, they could squeeze 22 players perhaps, but I doubt Moser comes in that low. I'd spread the space more ad in my above example and have a good 2nd line still while adding onntbe 3rd line amd at RD rather than spending it all on Guentzel.

Excellent and logical post; thank you.

 

[Rschmitz]

If I am JBB I am offering Moser an 8 year deal if we can afford it. At least that's one guy you know we need who can take some of the tough minutes from Hedman and McDonagh now and into the future.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Game suspension]

I am sure these Guentzel rumors are pissing off Stamkos but his agent has publicly stated that he is going to free agency on July 1. The gloves are off baby !

It reminds me how the Blackhawks treated Kane. At least Stamkos got an offer. Kane never got one.

 

[Todd1a]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807155261662273617

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807155261662273617

Unreal

 

[ccman68]

well i'd rather have guentzel than stamkos but who knows what's going on

 

[Todd1a]

I absolutely hate stammers agency

 

[The Gongshow]

Won't be enough for Stamkos, Guentzel, Moser, a 7th dman, and 2-3 additional F. If they move Sheary and Perbix,.or at least save some.by waiving or buying out Sheary, it might work.

Liliberg is 7th dman. 2-3 additional peices like who? Our bottom 6 is all but set. We could grab a vet min player but we need top 6 forwards (1 being a hopeful Stammer re-signing)

 

[Felonious Python]

I absolutely hate stammers agency

Stammer is in control. It's not like Stammer is some young guy on his first NHL contract who is going to defer to his agent. Stammer has been an NHLer for 16 years and captained a team to two cups. Meehan negotiates on his behalf.

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

Wow, they open up all that cap space and they still won't give Stammer a reasonable offer. WTF