TSN: Stamkos meeting with leafs, Toronto mayor, and CEO of Canadian tire

[Drew311]

Do majority of Leafs fans want stammer even in TO.. I always get mixed reviews on it and I really don't know if you guys do or not

I think it's safe to say that the majority of Leafs fans want Stammer here if the AAV is below 10M. Any double digit number and we'll pay his plane ticket to Buffalo.

 

[SprDaVE]

Fun stuff.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Wouldn't it be cap circumvention if the Leafs had the Canadiens Tire CEO promise Stamkos any kind of money? From my understanding it would be...

Here's a link to the NHL CBA. You have to scroll down a ways to the circumvention section. Sure sounds like his would qualify to me.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf

 

[WesMcCauley]

Technically, it is not a contract meeting. You can't discuss the actual contract until July 1st. Now I'm sure all the teams do it behind the closed doors.

It's not much different than if DET brought their owner to the meeting. Who happens to also own a lot of different business.

Ofc it is. I know they "cant" do it but if people actually believe they dont talk about salaries at meetings like these they are just dumb.

 

[Paxon]

This isn't a contract meeting. They can't discuss money during this period

You can, you'd just be violating the rules. It seemed pretty clear last year that teams had in fact discussed terms considering how quickly some contracts got done after free agency officially opened.

 

[Crede777]

Teams in cities with the Canadian Tire CEO have an unfair advantage under the cap!

 

[hamzarocks]

The Ontario boys are coming home

 

[Eric Sachs]

They were punished for the 17 year contract that never got approved... the one that the devils took the NHL to an arbitrator for, and the arbitrator ruled it was cap circumvention and voided the deal.

They were not punished for th 15 year deal that got approved.

So there goes that argument. The league did say "not a good contract, start over"... the devils said "Screw you we think its good and are taking it to an arbitrator"... the arbitrator said the NHL is right. Essentially the Devils were punished because they were told by the NHL this wouldnt be approved and still fought to try and do it.

Uhh no.

No player or team has the ability to take something to the systems arbitrator. That's only possible from the NHL or NHLPA. The NHLPA filed the grievance on behalf of Kovalchuk. The Devils had nothing to do with it and may very well have been against it knowing penalties were a possible outcome.

Systems arbitration is the NHL vs. the NHLPA. The player and team are not parties in the grievance..

 

[hockeykicker]

why is steve simmons the only one who knows this? how does no one else report this?? i mean this is stamkos in toronto. nobody but him is saying this

 

[Proust*]

Without knowing the $ or term this is a really really stupid post.

Good point, I'm sure it'll be reasonable

 

[sd1976]

Stamkos is sponsored by Sportchek, which also owns CT, or at least it's the same group.

Connect the dots.

Other way around. CT owns sportscheck

 

[Kurtz]

There is no need to prove anything. The burden of proof isn't anything substantial.

And no, the Leafs wouldn't have to be caught putting money into Canadian Tire. The CBA explicitly prohibits team actors from arranging sponsorships for a player.

The Canadian Tire CEO is not a team actor though, which is perhaps why he's there.

 

[Habsawce]

The Ontario boys are coming home

Doughty and Subban will look great with Rielly!

 

[Stand Witness]

There is no need to prove anything. The burden of proof isn't anything substantial.

And no, the Leafs wouldn't have to be caught putting money into Canadian Tire. The CBA explicitly prohibits team actors from arranging sponsorships for a player.

Here is where the Leafs went right though... Stamkos already has a sponsorship with Canadian Tire via Sportchek.

Thats why this is extremely hard to prove. The Leafs didn't go out and find new endorsers but instead went to his current endorsement.

 

[Curufinwe]

They were punished for the 17 year contract that never got approved... the one that the devils took the NHL to an arbitrator for, and the arbitrator ruled it was cap circumvention and voided the deal.

They were not punished for th 15 year deal that got approved.

So there goes that argument. The league did say "not a good contract, start over"... the devils said "Screw you we think its good and are taking it to an arbitrator"... the arbitrator said the NHL is right. Essentially the Devils were punished because they were told by the NHL this wouldnt be approved and still fought to try and do it.

A lot of NJ fans are still in denial about what actually happened.

 

[twostroke27]

This isn't a contract meeting. They can't discuss money during this period

Lol...I love how naive people are in regards to this. If only people knew all the sady illegal things that get done when it comes to contract rules etc.

 

[buttman*]

Aside from him being one of the only GMs in recent history to be penalized for cap circumvention, yea.. you're right.

The NHL learned and gave the Devils their pick back. How do you like those apples?

 

[Jeypic]

Canadian tire and sportchek have their own business with stamkos. It's nothing new. Just because they're discussing it while stamkos is visiting Canada doesn't mean the leafs are tampering.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If Detroit meets with Stamkos, I hear representatives of Little Caesar's Pizza and Olympia Entertainment will be present.

I'd ask to meet Robocop.

 

[buttman*]

JVR Stamkos Marner -- book it

 

[last_sd]

Ofc it is. I know they "cant" do it but if people actually believe they dont talk about salaries at meetings like these they are just dumb.

No one believes it, but proving it is another story.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Lol this is awesome

 

[WesMcCauley]

Here is where the Leafs went right though... Stamkos already has a sponsorship with Canadian Tire via Sportchek.

Thats why this is extremely hard to prove. The Leafs didn't go out and find new endorsers but instead went to his current endorsement.

Who cares. Its all a big mess. Things like this is unpossible to get rid of, so just say its ok. The problem is when they say its not, but dont give a **** when people do it.

 

[colchar]

Some people need to realize that Stamkos already has an endorsement deal with Sport Chek, whose ownership group is owned by Canadian Tire, so it makes perfect sense for him to be at the meeting.

 

[Proust*]

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