SSM Greyhounds 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[Fischhaber]

I don’t. I think the Soo has a hard time finding value and a landing spot for Nordh simply because we have to take an import back ( most likely ).

Would be nice though… I haven’t put too much thought into Nordh to be fair

Kitchener appears to have an open import spot, but they may be waiting on someone. I'd imagine that Brampton (Fibigr), Oshawa (Svozil) and Brantford (Jiricek) aren't overly attached to their 2nd OA's.

Regarding Charlie, I think Kingston is a super obvious fit. I've watched a couple of games recently and they can't be happy with Lalonde as their OA. He's never been good and isn't any better this year, getting pulled from 2 of the 3 games I watched.

 

[Kingpin794]

Kitchener appears to have an open import spot, but they may be waiting on someone. I'd imagine that Brampton (Fibigr), Oshawa (Svozil) and Brantford (Jiricek) aren't overly attached to their 2nd OA's.

Regarding Charlie, I think Kingston is a super obvious fit. I've watched a couple of games recently and they can't be happy with Lalonde as their OA. He's never been good and isn't any better this year, getting pulled from 2 of the 3 games I watched.

He was good enough to get past you last year.

 

[JoeSchmo]

Kitchener appears to have an open import spot, but they may be waiting on someone. I'd imagine that Brampton (Fibigr), Oshawa (Svozil) and Brantford (Jiricek) aren't overly attached to their 2nd OA's.

Regarding Charlie, I think Kingston is a super obvious fit. I've watched a couple of games recently and they can't be happy with Lalonde as their OA. He's never been good and isn't any better this year, getting pulled from 2 of the 3 games I watched.

I’ve had a feeling about Kingston since the offseason.

 

[JoeSchmo]

Haven’t noticed Brown missing from this lineup at all.

 

[Houndzfan20]

Haven’t noticed Brown missing from this lineup at all.

3rd lowest point totals on the team and has played most of thr minutes of anyone in thr lower half...and had had power play time

 

[Sakic fan]

Ooooof that’s a good trade. Only thing I would switch is we need Jenken as our 3rd pair shutdown guy this year, so I’d hope two-way defenseman PJ Fagan was going instead.

But Read traded would hurt, but you gotta give up something good to get something good.

If you want Gibson we would prefer Jenken, Read, plus picks. Fagan you can keep.
Windsor, Brampton, Barrie and Kingston also likely eyeing Gibson so will need a big deal to secure his services.

 

[Sakic fan]

I was just going to say that Tyler Hopkins would have to be a part of that trade for the same reasons that I suggested Noah Read, but you edited. Great minds think alike I guess!

Also, I know I sound like a broken record, but Miller has a 2.57 GAA and .917 SV% in his last 8 against 'good' competition. That argument was clearly baloney and he's proven everyone wrong. Get a haul for Charlie in a rebuilding year. He's been incredible and someone will pay up.

Where do you have Nordh going?

Getting Hopkins for Gibson seems like a pipe dream with the year he is having. Kingston likely willing to give up other younger players and picks as Hopkins is one of their top guys this year.

 

[JoeSchmo]

Getting Hopkins for Gibson seems like a pipe dream with the year he is having. Kingston likely willing to give up other younger players and picks as Hopkins is one of their top guys this year.

Never say never.

I’d be very happy to see a package deal made with Kingston to land Hopkins and Xander Valleries. Maybe they want Mignosa and see him as an upgrade over Hopkins with opportunity to recoup assets next year as an overager. Maybe that’s more valuable to them at this current time? Who knows.

If you want Gibson we would prefer Jenken, Read, plus picks. Fagan you can keep.
Windsor, Brampton, Barrie and Kingston also likely eyeing Gibson so will need a big deal to secure his services.

Exactly this. It will be a bidding war.

If Windsor wants Gibson , Raftis should start with Belchetz and that’s it. Play hard ball knowing you have 5 other teams bidding too. Start with securing an 08 but if not, then a solid 07 or 2(?).

Not saying Soo would get Belchetz at all(they wouldn’t) but that’s where I’d start LOL

 

[Sakic fan]

Never say never.

I’d be very happy to see a package deal made with Kingston to land Hopkins and Xander Valleries. Maybe they want Mignosa and see him as an upgrade over Hopkins with opportunity to recoup assets next year as an overager. Maybe that’s more valuable to them at this current time? Who knows.



Exactly this. It will be a bidding war.

If Windsor wants Gibson , Raftis should start with Belchetz and that’s it. Play hard ball knowing you have 5 other teams bidding too. Start with securing an 08 but if not, then a solid 07 or 2(?).

Not saying Soo would get Belchetz at all(they wouldn’t) but that’s where I’d start LOL

Hopkins and Velliaris would be a good get for sure. Younger brother of Brayden can skate and is solid defensive dman. Could see them wanting to unload Ethan Weir of Adam Kelly before Hopkins.

Belchetz is a nice fantasy but very unlikely so maybe we ask for Lemieux and Hicks for Gibson, 2 good young 08s to add to team in absence or our missed picks this past draft.

 

[tjziel]

If you want Gibson we would prefer Jenken, Read, plus picks. Fagan you can keep.
Windsor, Brampton, Barrie and Kingston also likely eyeing Gibson so will need a big deal to secure his services.

I’d be out. Mark Hunter doesn’t do bidding wars so that’s why he’s a better GM than me lol!

Hopkins and Velliaris would be a good get for sure. Younger brother of Brayden can skate and is solid defensive dman. Could see them wanting to unload Ethan Weir of Adam Kelly before Hopkins.

Belchetz is a nice fantasy but very unlikely so maybe we ask for Lemieux and Hicks for Gibson, 2 good young 08s to add to team in absence or our missed picks this past draft.

I don’t think you can trade for any 08’s unless they are first round picks and they waive their no trade clauses. So unfortunately Lemieux and Hicks won’t be available.

 

[JoeSchmo]

I’d be out. Mark Hunter doesn’t do bidding wars so that’s why he’s a better GM than me lol!


I don’t think you can trade for any 08’s unless they are first round picks and they waive their no trade clauses.

Only 08 that can be moved are first rounders, correct.

Not many options for contenders with 08s I feel.

 

[Fischhaber]

Only 08 that can be moved are first rounders, correct.

Not many options for contenders with 08s I feel.

That's why you target a guy like Hopkins or Read. We're all-in on the 07 class, so we may as well continue to load up.

We saw a really, really similar defenseman in Ethan Del Mastro net Porter Martone, so nobody is really off-limits.

 

[HockeyPops]

I think there are some 08 options out there.
OSH - Brady Smith (the other Brady Smith)
BAR - Parker Vaughan
LDN - Logan Hawery
KIT - Evan Headrick

None of these players are playing well enough currently to keep them off the table if teams are in a win now mode.

We saw a really, really similar defenseman in Ethan Del Mastro net Porter Martone, so nobody is really off-limits.

Martone had 13 points in 29 games at the time of his trade. He hadn't really established himself as off limits. Belchetz is nearly at a point per game. There is no way they trade him.

 

[DWI Dale]

Windsor is more likely to move the franchise to Sturgeon Falls than they are to even entertain offers for Belchetz lol.

I also find it difficult to imagine either team trading within the division although I appreciate that Gibby would probably love the chance to chase a cup at home.

 

[tjziel]

That's why you target a guy like Hopkins or Read. We're all-in on the 07 class, so we may as well continue to load up.

We saw a really, really similar defenseman in Ethan Del Mastro net Porter Martone, so nobody is really off-limits.

I don’t think it was Del Mastro for Martone straight up. I think it was Ethan Del Mastro and Luca Del Bel Belluz for Porter Martone, Angus MacDonell and picks. They just did it in 2 different deals. Otherwise Sarnia doesn’t trade Martone for Del Mastro straight up.

“The Sarnia Sting have acquired National Hockey League (NHL) prospects Ethan Del Mastro and Luca Del Bel Belluz from the Mississauga Steelheads ahead of Tuesday's trade deadline, in exchange for forwards Porter Martone and Angus MacDonell, a second round pick in the 2023 Ontario Hockey League (OHL) Priority Selection, as well as fourth round picks in 2025 n and 2026.” - Sarnia Journal.

That’s basically the trade in a nutshell… they just did it in two separate trades.

 

[ohloutsider]

Never say never.

I’d be very happy to see a package deal made with Kingston to land Hopkins and Xander Valleries. Maybe they want Mignosa and see him as an upgrade over Hopkins with opportunity to recoup assets next year as an overager. Maybe that’s more valuable to them at this current time? Who knows.



Exactly this. It will be a bidding war.

If Windsor wants Gibson , Raftis should start with Belchetz and that’s it. Play hard ball knowing you have 5 other teams bidding too. Start with securing an 08 but if not, then a solid 07 or 2(?).

Not saying Soo would get Belchetz at all(they wouldn’t) but that’s where I’d start LOL

Lol, Belchetz is not going anywhere.

 

[JoeSchmo]

Lol, Belchetz is not going anywhere.

Oh I know haha

 

[Rivrfront]

The London Knights have 12 NHL drafted players on there roster.
Will most likely add a couple of more at trade deadline.
Once again probably the team to beat in the OHL.

 

[Fischhaber]

I think there are some 08 options out there.
OSH - Brady Smith (the other Brady Smith)
BAR - Parker Vaughan
LDN - Logan Hawery
KIT - Evan Headrick

None of these players are playing well enough currently to keep them off the table if teams are in a win now mode.


Martone had 13 points in 29 games at the time of his trade. He hadn't really established himself as off limits. Belchetz is nearly at a point per game. There is no way they trade him.

I was making that point in reference to Tyler Hopkins, not Ethan Belchetz. Guys like him are absolutely on the table for Gibson in my opinion.

 

[HockeyPops]

Yes, I would think Tyler Hopkins is not off limits.