SSM Greyhounds 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

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I feel like they may remove the OA completely from the league…
You can still get the signed kid to return as an OA, especially goaltenders. I know NHL signed guys usually end up in the AHL, but some do get returned. I think you leave that option open.
 
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I feel like they may remove the OA completely from the league…

Many players relying on an OA season to accumulate the four years of their education packages is one of the reasons to not remove OAs completely.
I think we see more spots opening for OA goalies.
 
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No doubt that would be the spin if it works out. But I have a hard time believing that Raftis read the tea leaves in this instance when there are very few other examples of that happening.
no one knew at the draft. Only reason they are moving forward with it now is the lawsuit, which was after. your right it’ll spin and look like it for sure, but it was not known
 

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I’ve heard that USHL is asking a hefty price on transfers on players. This could stop players from not coming until the summer time. Anyone else hearing anything similar?

Probably safer to bank on Croskery coming in the summer.
 

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Would it be reasonable to think that this exact scenario (NCAA eligibility rules change) was something Raftis anticipated when he drafted Croskery? This possibility has been on the table for some time, right?
I think they saw a top 5 talent in the draft who had strong ties to the Soo and felt like it was worth the risk. They did the same thing with Rutger McGroarty and it didn't work out, but it's a massive win when it does work out.

If you get Croskery here in our system and with our fans along with an NHL contract, he'll have second thoughts about NCAA. CHL has always been a better path for players.
 

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I think they saw a top 5 talent in the draft who had strong ties to the Soo and felt like it was worth the risk. They did the same thing with Rutger McGroarty and it didn't work out, but it's a massive win when it does work out.

If you get Croskery here in our system and with our fans along with an NHL contract, he'll have second thoughts about NCAA. CHL has always been a better path for players.
i think the point for some of us is that maybe the "risky" picks shouldn't happen in years where we have missing picks and players we're unsure will report. there's no excuse for 1 player coming out of the first 5 rounds. if he ends up here that's great, if he doesn't we're going to have to spend multiple picks per player in trades to supplement our roster, and a comp 1st pick next year doesn't add an 18-20 year old "neckbeard" that we need to compete in the playoffs in 2 years.
 
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i think the point for some of us is that maybe the "risky" picks shouldn't happen in years where we have missing picks and players we're unsure will report. there's no excuse for 1 player coming out of the first 5 rounds. if he ends up here that's great, if he doesn't we're going to have to spend multiple picks per player in trades to supplement our roster, and a comp 1st pick next year doesn't add an 18-20 year old "neckbeard" that we need to compete in the playoffs in 2 years.
This is a great point. And the problem with the way that Raftis always adds with a mediocre team and never really sells off, is that we are always at the draft missing picks. Every year. It was really only 2021 and 2022 that we didn't. I had hoped at the time that Raftis was turning over a new leaf, but now it appears it was simply a blip as a result of not playing hockey for a season and not having an opportunity of throwing a way picks, because of covid.
 

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who's the jew, or the muslim...?
it's unacceptable no matter how much knights fans want to play it down.
That’s fair. I apologize. After further research it was inappropriate and I’m sorry for trying to joke about it as well.

Also, I think Sim will learn from this
 

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If it is unacceptable then half the league should be suspended tomorrow. Not too sure if you have heard talk on the ice or near the benches before but I can promise you at least 75% of the league has said far worse and far more often. That includes the officials.

All we want is some consistency within the league, not a hard thing to ask for. Anytime something bad is said it is an automatic game misconduct. Lets see how many players are left on the bench after a game if they were to follow the actual "rules" .
 

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I don't think I can agree with the post above. It seems to be almost condoning the behaviour without condoning the behaviour.

Is it really too much to ask that this behaviour not be tolerated?

I totally understand what you are saying, I am not saying to tolerate this behaviour. But why single one person out, when "most" are doing it?

I have heard the chirping on the ice, and if I can hear it the officials in the middle of the scrums can hear it. I can promise you a lot of what is said is a suspend able offense based on the statement the OHL just put out.

If I tell you " I do not like you" and then you tell me " I do not like you ", why would only one of us get suspended if the official heard us both saying something that should not be "said" on the ice?
 

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I would love to get some consistency in refereeing. I just think suggesting this shouldn't be a suspension because they miss others is approaching it from the wrong end.

To get this out of the game they need to call more, not less of these. I bet that if a team is ever forced to play a line short because they have too many players serving suspensions for using language contravening the OHL's Diversity Policy, team staff and the league will sit up and take note. Maybe that's what's needed for real change to occur.
 

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I totally understand what you are saying, I am not saying to tolerate this behaviour. But why single one person out, when "most" are doing it?

I have heard the chirping on the ice, and if I can hear it the officials in the middle of the scrums can hear it. I can promise you a lot of what is said is a suspend able offense based on the statement the OHL just put out.

If I tell you " I do not like you" and then you tell me " I do not like you ", why would only one of us get suspended if the official heard us both saying something that should not be "said" on the ice?
I agree that there are a lot of inappropriate things said on the ice, even between teammates. There's a few other things to consider in this instance.

- There's no evidence that the Greyhounds player said anything wrong, as you appear to suggest in your last paragraph.

- Sim is a repeat offender

- The league has always been sticklers when it comes to comments regarding a protected status (race, religion, sex, etc.).

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree and I know that those types of things are said a lot. I'm just offering potential explanations.
 
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I just find it rather confusing that is all. Sticks and Stones kind of thing.

Sim hurt a players feelings and gets 5 games. Was it warranted, sure based on league rules it is no matter what was said to him initially.

Boulton is on his THIRD suspension of the year. This time he charges and throws a flying elbow to the face of a player who is on his knees and defenseless and only gets 2 games? Yet the league puts out a statement that they are doing their best at taking head shots out of the game and that player safety is their utmost priority?
 

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I just find it rather confusing that is all. Sticks and Stones kind of thing.

Sim hurt a players feelings and gets 5 games. Was it warranted, sure based on league rules it is no matter what was said to him initially.

Boulton is on his THIRD suspension of the year. This time he charges and throws a flying elbow to the face of a player who is on his knees and defenseless and only gets 2 games? Yet the league puts out a statement that they are doing their best at taking head shots out of the game and that player safety is their utmost priority?
Sponsors likely play a factor in this - if the league doesn't appear to care about a slur, sponsors may not want to associate with the league and they'd lose money.

I'm absolutely on the sticks and stones side of the argument but the league needs to keep up an appearance for their sponsors. As backwards as it is, sponsors are significantly more concerned about slurs than they are about player safety - player safety doesn't really impact sponsors.
 
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