Who led them down the garden path? Those are just some people ranking North American prospects, in their opinion, that's all.
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I feel for them, but no one led them on. They both have two years of eligibility plus potential OA year to prove themselves worthy of being drafted in the next two years or be signed in their OA year. They have to work hard, Carrol has to show consistently that he is a top talent and McKay has to show he can score even more goals consistently. They are young still. Colin Miller was drafted and unsigned, then he made the NHL as a free agent OA. These two can do it.
Congrats to LeGuerrier, but very disappointing for McKay and Carrol. A fair comment, neither was very solid on their own merits. Carrol was far better than McKay in creating his own scoring chances, but being able to score junk goals is not impressive to the NHL. Seems like the team needed to broaden the field of trying to showcase players. Either way, a disappointing draft for the Greyhounds and makes me worried about this coming season.
The NHL draft has no bearing on this coming season. Our track record of producing NHL players is easily the best in the league and one draft doesn't change that. The undrafted guys will be available for OA seasons now and they will have to work even harder to make it. Look where Jake Muzzin is now after signing in his OA year.
With Propp in net we should be the favourites in the West Division. Should be another great season.
If you're dissapointed that Joe did not get drafted you did not watch any of his game last year.
He does not deserve to be a NHL drafted player at this current moment
Caufield to Habs with LaGuerrier is good news in my opinon.
Kyle has to sell the OHL as the quickest way to the NHL... As Cole wants to take the quickest route to NHL
Beecher to Boston kills us. Boston sends their players to NCAA.
He does not deserve to be a NHL drafted player at this current moment
Caufield to Habs with LaGuerrier is good news in my opinon.
Kyle has to sell the OHL as the quickest way to the NHL... As Cole wants to take the quickest route to NHL
Beecher to Boston kills us. Boston sends their players to NCAA.
No chance any of the drafted players are coming to the SOO. Every one of them will go the college route and Kyle doesn't have enough to sell in order to change their minds. Right or wrong, this draft was a statement about the development of hockey players outside of Canada. I don't like it, but the USA dominated the 2019 draft and the OHL might have had the worst showing ever.
The NHL expanded deep into the US years ago and now is seeing the results. Top US athletes are playing hockey now and not just football, baseball and basketball. With the development of young hoxhey programs in the US you are going to see more and more top end American players. Our country is becoming more diversified and the number of children playing hockey is diminishing. We are still producing top players, but the US is also.
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Very true... to touch on a point that was made by one of the analysts I was recently watching - when the NHL expanded into southern markets, the Canadian hockey minds that played for these new teams took up residency. They developed families in these new hockey markets and as retired players, are now coaching their kids. They are creating solid development systems in a geographical area that would have otherwise not had their type of expertise available.
Kudos to the rest of the world. Good hockey is good hockey and we ain’t the only ones doing it.
Exactly. Also, there is an incentive to draft non-CHL players because they do not need to be signed before they are 20 years old (last season of junior).
They can wait several years to see how they develop.
Don't rule out the possibility of his rights being traded..............because you said it, Kyle doesn't have enough ...but someone else may, and the return would be as big as moving Frost last year.
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Joe Carroll and Tye Kartye invited to Toronto Maple Leafs Development Camp:
Cole MacKay and Cullen McLean invited to Vegas Golden Knights Development Camp:
Cole MacKay and Cullen McLean invited to Vegas Golden Knights Development Camp:
Joe was never given an opportunity to succeed under Dean. He had a very limited role throughout the season and seemed uncomfortable when he was on the ice. Central Scouting had him ranked as high as 51 and always in the top 100 throughout the season. Plus he was selected for the Top Prospects Game. He should have been drafted. I fully understand why others were not.
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Of all the players overlooked in the draft, Joe's potential route to getting a pro contract is probably the easiest to predict. Joe has already demonstrated that he has all the tools. It is the consistency in his game that he is lacking. If he can demonstrate that he can consistently push the pace through the season, teams will be lining up to sign him. He has a very high ceiling.
joe seems to have all the tools but you have to show it on the ice. Last season was a very poor season, very inconsistent, Dean gave him every opportunity to succeed
but at some point you have to show it on the ice which joe did not all season, had a couple of nice games in the playoffs but needs to show the coach what he
can do shift after shift to increase ice time. That is all the coach can go by. Work ethic in practice and games, makes a big difference that is why a Leguerier got drafted and carroll did not, leguerier was real consistent all season and scouts notice that.
I did watch almost every game and I completely disagree that Dean gave Joe every opportunity to succeed. I'm all for supporting our home town boys although I'm not willing to agree with the comments of a prior post about being prejudiced towards only developing Ontario kids, but all of us know who Dean spoon fed every game this past season. A few players deserved far more of an opportunity, especially younger guys that sat on the bench. The worst part, it didn't work and guys like Joe were not drafted.
i thought he played a regular shift. some nights he was good, others you didn't even notice he was there. tough to get drafted when scouts are sent to watch you and you're not noticed. kid was dominant some shifts. i still would have drafted him but i wouldn't blame the coach. he still played minutes, unfortunately didn't take advantage of them. IMO
possibly good news for greyhound fans, not so much for Barrett Hayton, arizona coyotees acquired Carl Soderberg from the colorado
avalanche today. Another centremen in the fold for arizona. Locked in to fill one of the 4 centre ice positions available.
avalanche today. Another centremen in the fold for arizona. Locked in to fill one of the 4 centre ice positions available.
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Sure looks like it with their current depth chart at center:
Stepan
Schmaltz
Soderberg
Richardson
Edit: Dvorak too
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Hey guys, habs fan coming in for a bit of infos on Leguerrier! He's one of the guys our fan base knows less about so I would like to know some more about his game, offense potential and if you'd think he's got a fair shot at one day being a solid AHLer or NHLer.
From what I've read so far he's good defensively and some think he might expand his offense once your other older Ds move on next season. Would you think he'll get some PP time?
From what I've read so far he's good defensively and some think he might expand his offense once your other older Ds move on next season. Would you think he'll get some PP time?
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O Rourke gets powerplay time. We will probably run 4 forwards on the pp but I can see LeGuerrier getting second line pp minutes. But he will definitely be expected to drive more 5 v 5 offense than he was. He has showed flashes of offense in the past but we had so many puck moving defensemen that it wasnt needed from him. Now it is. Expect his production to double this year.
We should not run the PP with 4 forwards this coming season. Both ORourke and LeGuerrier should be on the first unit unless Hayton returns. Then I agree LeGuerrier will likely get the top role, but maybe not.
The reason SSM got Joe in the draft was because of the knock he had on him growing up. Kid has always had potential but even in junior he hit a wall, and development stopped , his attitude is not good. Many scouts can tell you this. It transferred to the OHL, and you can see it in his body language every game. He hasn't shown ANY commitment to being a pro. He's gotten by on a team that's been very good, this year is his one last chance to prove it and it won't be in the Soo. That's my opinon. Also you don't get shifts given to you. Coach Dean doesn't have to GIVE you shifts because it's your draft year. Earn it. Everyone should take a page from Mac Hollowells book. HE EARNED it every shift.
Joe Carroll needs to push harder , he has ALOT of growing to do and he has not done anything scouts have asked him to develop better skills on....SSM took the chance , NHL teams won't...not with big money.
Joe Carroll needs to push harder , he has ALOT of growing to do and he has not done anything scouts have asked him to develop better skills on....SSM took the chance , NHL teams won't...not with big money.
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