SSM Greyhounds 2019 Offseason Thread

[Fischhaber]

With Malik falling into our laps, I wonder if the Hounds look to deal Propp again. Surely they didn't expect the top goalie in the class to fall to us at the 50th pick.

He'll need to get plenty of playing time and we probably don't want to roll with an OA backup.

Anyone still fretting about this year's NHL draft can take solace in the fact that Malik, Pytlik, and O'Rourke could all go very very high next year.

 

[Fischhaber]

Zero chance Caulfield reports, he is deadset on playing with his brother in the NCAA and has been raving about Wisconsin for years. Check his social media... He won't be here.

Wisconsin born, playing for his child hood team with his brother. Good luck.

As for Malik if he reports and is as good as reports suggest, another great import pick by our management... They seem to know who wants to play over seas and always gets them in the later picks and usually end up being high impact players. This is why, we continue to not rebuild but just reload... Another year near the top of the OHL? Lets hope.

More and more every year it seems that draftees are taking note of the Greyhounds success in developing players.

You can be sure that smart agents are circling the Greyhounds as their preferred destination and having their client drop to us as a result.

All of the teams know that Malik is an elite talent, but players want to be here because we have the best organization from top to bottom. That makes me proud to be a Hounds fan.

 

[jjhound]

More and more every year it seems that draftees are taking note of the Greyhounds success in developing players.

You can be sure that smart agents are circling the Greyhounds as their preferred destination and having their client drop to us as a result.

All of the teams know that Malik is an elite talent, but players want to be here because we have the best organization from top to bottom. That makes me proud to be a Hounds fan.

Easy now. We have a great organization. But there are a handful of others in our league as well. Not sure we are the best, maybe, but others are darn good too.

 

[HockeyPops]

With Malik falling into our laps, I wonder if the Hounds look to deal Propp again.

I would think it more likely that we deal Ethan Taylor. He won rookie goalie of the year last year, so his stock should be pretty high. Unfortunately for Ethan, with Malik in the fold it's unlikely he would ever earn starting honors here. Propp can begin the season as our starter and nurture Malik so we don't rush his development. This is all assuming that Malik reports, of course.

 

[Fischhaber]

Easy now. We have a great organization. But there are a handful of others in our league as well. Not sure we are the best, maybe, but others are darn good too.

The point I'm trying to make is that players like Malik are saying no to other OHL teams in order to fall to the Greyhounds. That's how we got Sandin, Pytlik, and maybe even O'Rourke. Players and agents are aware of our success and forcing their way here. That's all without the sometimes 6 figure bonuses that other teams dole out. It says a lot about the positive perception of our organization.

 

[Fischhaber]

I would think it more likely that we deal Ethan Taylor. He won rookie goalie of the year last year, so his stock should be pretty high. Unfortunately for Ethan, with Malik in the fold it's unlikely he would ever earn starting honors here. Propp can begin the season as our starter and nurture Malik so we don't rush his development. This is all assuming that Malik reports, of course.

I would love to keep Taylor for that reason, but we'll see. Just keep in mind that the Propp trade probably ends up being a couple of high picks if he makes the roster.

 

[TuckerFan1]

I would think it more likely that we deal Ethan Taylor. He won rookie goalie of the year last year, so his stock should be pretty high. Unfortunately for Ethan, with Malik in the fold it's unlikely he would ever earn starting honors here. Propp can begin the season as our starter and nurture Malik so we don't rush his development. This is all assuming that Malik reports, of course.

Just give it a few days. Malik will sign no problem. You don’t pass up on playing for the organization that is the #1 place to develop players

 

[Fischhaber]

Just give it a few days. Malik will sign no problem. You don’t pass up on playing for the organization that is the #1 place to develop players

If he reports then we can likely say that he prioritized the Soo over Oshawa at least. They undoubtedly would have gobbled up Malik at 44 if he were willing. They need a goalie badly and Malik is ranked even higher than 1st overall pick Kasper Puutio.

 

[HockeyPops]

Why can't we all just get along

 

[shot caller]

With Malik falling into our laps, I wonder if the Hounds look to deal Propp again. Surely they didn't expect the top goalie in the class to fall to us at the 50th pick.

He'll need to get plenty of playing time and we probably don't want to roll with an OA backup.

Anyone still fretting about this year's NHL draft can take solace in the fact that Malik, Pytlik, and O'Rourke could all go very very high next year.

It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to run an overage goalie as a backup. He may end up being a part of a tandem that may play more than what a backup typically would.
It would be a sense of comfort when you’re getting into the meat of the season. I would imagine that Malik would probably make his national team for the WJC, especially with it being in the Czech this winter. He would potentially have a busy year this year if he were to also play in the top prospects game. A lot of extra curricular’s that may warrant a solid and reliable backup. Keep in mind, this is the year the CHL starts their rule on OA goalies not counting towards the OA limit.

 

[shot caller]

Dog days of summer fun...

Throw out a depth chart. Let’s see a starting line up and who may be sitting upstairs as a scratch.

Leave Caufield and Beecher out of this - let’s try and be the slightest bit realistic.
However, let’s see a line up card based on what we have seen in the past few posts showing our depth....based on that, we can see who is on the bubble this year and who simply doesn’t have a shot.
Ready...go!!

 

[HockeyPops]

Depth chart is in the first post of the prospects thread:
SSM Greyhounds Prospects Thread

 

[HockeyPops]

Its tough to figure out who our centers will be. I like Pytlik on the wing, and like Kerins' skill for a second line center. I wasnt about to cut a second forward so I built the roster with 15 forwards, 7 defense, 2 goalies. I think our defense still needs an addition, and I suspect Boudreau and Dickinson wont ride pine, but until i see them i dont know where to put them.

Pytlik - Hayton - MacKay
Carroll - Kerins - Roth
Kartye - Johnston - Peca
Trott - Mufarreh - Watson
(Boudreau) - (Dickinson) - (McLean)

LeGuerrier - Wale
O'Rourke - Wawrow
Calisti - Holmes
(Brzustowski)

Propp
(Malik)

Edit: grammar

 

[PuckLife]

Its tough to figure out who our centers will be. I like Pytlik on the wing, and like Kerins' skill for a second line center. I wasnt about to cut a forward so I built the roster with 15 forwards, 7 defense, 2 goalies. I think our defense still needs an addition, and I suspect Boudreau and Dickinson wont ride pine, but until i see them i dont know where to put them.

Pytlik - Hayton - MacKay
Carroll - Kerins - Roth
Kartye - Johnston - Peca
Trott - Mufarreh - Watson
(Boudreau) - (Dickinson) - (McLean)

LeGuerrier - Wale
O'Rourke - Wawrow
Calisti - Holmes
(Brzustowski)

Propp
(Malik)

No McLean?

 

[Tarantula]

Keep in mind, this is the year the CHL starts their rule on OA goalies not counting towards the OA limit.

Has this been confirmed? I've heard mumblings but many on these boards are still counting o OA card for a netminder.

 

[HockeyPops]

No McLean?

He is there

 

[shot caller]

Has this been confirmed? I've heard mumblings but many on these boards are still counting o OA card for a netminder.

There are articles around that support it but the kicker was the discussion that the panel on sportsnet had during the memorial cup. They outlined the new rule change and how it was a long time coming. Their view on this was that it was approved and would be instituted this season. They discussed the roll out of rules impacting goalies and how they were instituted in order. Before last season started they ended the ban on European goalies and before this season, the change in OA rules.

I could be wrong but I believe everything I see on TV.

 

[HockeyPops]

Let’s see a starting line up and who may be sitting upstairs as a scratch.

What's your lineup?

 

[shot caller]

Very similar but I will be so bold to also speculate a bit.

Pytlik - Hayton - MacKay
Carroll - Kerins - Roth
Kartye - Johnston - Peca
Trott/Boudreau - Dickinson/Mufarreh- Watson

I believe we stand a better chance we see Jacklin, and Mclean out the door. Might be in a different way (release/trade) but I think you’ll see at least 1 trade happen.
Also, depending on camp for a few players, I could see a few names on the bottom of that lineup that may also be moved out of town.

LeGuerrier - Wale
O'Rourke - O/A
Warrow- Holmes

I think you’re going to see an O/A fill a slot on defense still. Calisti’s ship has sailed in the Sault. I think you’ll see him moved out. Maybe packaged with Taylor for an overage defenseman.

Propp
Malik

Taylor is the odd man out for sure. I just don’t see him fitting in over the coming years. If things shake out as they should, we should see Malik back next year and we have time to properly develop another current prospect to take over the following season.

 

[HockeyPops]

LeGuerrier - Wale
O'Rourke - O/A
Warrow- Holmes

I agree on the OA, however, I think we need to find one capable of playing first pair. Otherwise you end up with Wale and Wawrow both playing on their off sides. It is much more natural to start with a lineup of:
LeGuerrier - OA
O'Rourke - Wawrow
Wale - Holmes

Even though Wale could play higher and Holmes hopefully moves up to second pair by Christmas.

If Raftis does indeed look to move Jacklin, McLean, Calisti, Taylor he has some assets to work with. Incidentally, I really like the "energy" third line both you and I put together.

 

[HockeyPops]

Pytlik

 

[PuckLife]

Interesting write up on the Athletic that could impact us. Rick Tocket said this about Hayton:

“He’s doing everything he can this summer and he has probably worked out harder than he ever worked out,” Tocchet said. “He’s going to push the chain if he makes the team. He’s another guy that could play wing. He’s very versatile. He’s a really good penalty killer and he can play the power play, net front.
“I think when you have these young, really talented guys and they can play up and down the lineup, it’s a value to the coach. I don’t want to screw around with Barrett, but there is some value to him that he can play both positions.”

 

[shot caller]

I agree on the OA, however, I think we need to find one capable of playing first pair. Otherwise you end up with Wale and Wawrow both playing on their off sides. It is much more natural to start with a lineup of:
LeGuerrier - OA
O'Rourke - Wawrow
Wale - Holmes

Even though Wale could play higher and Holmes hopefully moves up to second pair by Christmas.

If Raftis does indeed look to move Jacklin, McLean, Calisti, Taylor he has some assets to work with. Incidentally, I really like the "energy" third line both you and I put together.

Like I said in my post, the vision is very similar. I don’t see anything different in the first line or the 3rd line. In fact, I see those lines being the lines receiving the majority of important minutes. The second line, to me, is merely a place holder. May help you but won’t kill you. I think our “3rd” line would be more impactful.

I agree with the O/A having to be on the top pair. I slotted in the second pair for ease but I see the issues with that as well.
I think we could fetch a fairly reasonable return for Taylor and Calisti as a package. Claisti is a fantastic skater. Maybe one of the best on the team but he just doesn’t seem interested and frankly, considering his ice time, I could understand his lack of interest. However, he must have forgot that you need to earn your ice time.

I think Mufarreh is a quality piece that could potentially be moved out. Entering his draft year, I wouldn’t want to be sitting where we have him slotted in when he could potentially move up a bit on another team. He will get buried here.

 

[Fischhaber]

I agree on the OA, however, I think we need to find one capable of playing first pair. Otherwise you end up with Wale and Wawrow both playing on their off sides. It is much more natural to start with a lineup of:
LeGuerrier - OA
O'Rourke - Wawrow
Wale - Holmes

Even though Wale could play higher and Holmes hopefully moves up to second pair by Christmas.

If Raftis does indeed look to move Jacklin, McLean, Calisti, Taylor he has some assets to work with. Incidentally, I really like the "energy" third line both you and I put together.

Jacob Paquette from Niagara would be an awfully nice target. They have a ton of OA's and their depth chart is very thin. I could see them being interested in Taylor and one of our young forwards.

Brady Lyle is also a Greyhounds style RD but I don't see the Attack wanting to move one of their few veterans before the season.

I also like Cole Fraser, but the Petes probably keep him if they are looking to make a run.

 

[HockeyPops]

3 exhibition games lined up:
Sat. Aug 31 – Soo at Sudbury at 7:00 pm
Thurs. Sept 12 – Soo vs Sarnia at 6:30 pm (Chatham)
Sun. Sept 15 – Sudbury at Soo at 2:07 pm

I wonder if training camp will still run Tues - Fri this year with the Annual Luke Williams Memorial Red & White game played Fri. Aug 30 at 7:07pm. If so, the first exhibition game will be the very next day.