"South Atlantic Professional Hockey League"?
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CrazyEddie20
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"Professional Hockey" with a $300,000/season team budget? Maybe in 1958...
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All part of the beauty of a "profit sharing model." No profit, no sharing, win-win.
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How about a new league with a broad footprint potential. How about the Eastern Seaboard Hockey League lol? That way a league could operate from Maine to Miami and not appear geographically inept lol. Always loved the name East Coast Hockey League but let's be honest the league long ago backed themselves into an identity corner. The league known simply as the ECHL and not East Coast drives me crazy, no logic. How about the Elite Continental Hockey League (A.K.A Premier AA league of North America).
AHL fell into that same footprint once you started expanding to the midwest and Pacific
CrazyEddie20
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The "SAPHL" is going to have a 40-game season. Say they do it over 20 weeks, which would be roughly the next to last weekend in October to the first weekend in March.
Twenty of those games are road games. A coach bus costs $1,000/day, minimum. There's $20K. Next, you have to cover worker's compensation insurance. Say that costs $75K for the season.
You need to pay your coach, equipment manager, and trainer (or maybe just not have a trainer and equipment manager, as if that's a good idea...). Say the coach gets $45K, the trainer gets $45K, and the equipment manager gets $30K.
Divide the remaining $105K amongst, say, 17 players, and each player is allotted $6,562.50 per season - $328.125 weekly. If you aren't providing housing, where is anyone going to be able to live and eat in Florida at that pay rate?
And, oh yeah, this doesn't account for hiring anyone to sell things like tickets and sponsorships.
I don't see how this could fail!
Twenty of those games are road games. A coach bus costs $1,000/day, minimum. There's $20K. Next, you have to cover worker's compensation insurance. Say that costs $75K for the season.
You need to pay your coach, equipment manager, and trainer (or maybe just not have a trainer and equipment manager, as if that's a good idea...). Say the coach gets $45K, the trainer gets $45K, and the equipment manager gets $30K.
Divide the remaining $105K amongst, say, 17 players, and each player is allotted $6,562.50 per season - $328.125 weekly. If you aren't providing housing, where is anyone going to be able to live and eat in Florida at that pay rate?
And, oh yeah, this doesn't account for hiring anyone to sell things like tickets and sponsorships.
I don't see how this could fail!
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I was going for a little comedy or satire. But yes the ECHL name drives me crazy as the league expanded it's footprint away from the East Coast aka Eastern Seaboard. It was bound to happen anyway as the American league expanded theirs but at least the American league had a whole country within their name.to work with. See at least the same can be said of the Federal league to, they can expand anywhere their hearts content in the lower 48 and there is no confusion lol. I still think they should eliminate "prospects" from their name and keep it simple, the Federal Professional Hockey League, at least the SPHL kept it right.
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The Fed name change was purely & simply a legal move. Nothing geographical - nor professional - about it.
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You must surely be a Confederate States sympathizer in Yankee clothing, if you think "Southern Professional Hockey League" is an accurate descriptor of its current membership ...
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Expand your mind via the internet, Eddie. Players will sleep on the bus on weekends, and inside the home arena (or short naps in their POVs on the lot) during the week. Double-shifts on weekdays at local fast food joints (ref. Indeed.com data - this schedule also complements the in-vehicle cat-napping time limits cited above), and completely legal Team Dumpster Diving as needed for nutritional & consumer goods supplements (which will double as team building exercises). 21st Century Minor Pro Hockey Business Modeling 101.
Expand your mind via the internet, Eddie. Players will sleep on the bus on weekends, and inside the home arena (or short naps in their POVs on the lot) during the week. Double-shifts on weekdays at local fast food joints (ref. Indeed.com data - this schedule also complements the in-vehicle cat-napping time limits cited above), and completely legal Team Dumpster Diving as needed for nutritional & consumer goods supplements (which will double as team building exercises). 21st Century Minor Pro Hockey Business Modeling 101.
In other words, the hockey version of the Pecos League?
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Dude, get six dudes together and you can easily afford a nicely furnished studio.Expand your mind via the internet, Eddie. Players will sleep on the bus on weekends, and inside the home arena (or short naps in their POVs on the lot) during the week. Double-shifts on weekdays at local fast food joints (ref. Indeed.com data - this schedule also complements the in-vehicle cat-napping time limits cited above), and completely legal Team Dumpster Diving as needed for nutritional & consumer goods supplements (which will double as team building exercises). 21st Century Minor Pro Hockey Business Modeling 101.
CrazyEddie20
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Better to go unfurnished so there's enough floor space for the air mattresses.
CANADIENSFAN90
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JMCx4
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South New Hampshire, South Atlantic ... yep, GREAT match ...
CANADIENSFAN90
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Illinois not in the south but the sphl has teams thereSouth New Hampshire, South Atlantic ... yep, GREAT match ...
South New Hampshire, South Atlantic ... yep, GREAT match ...
But it's a New league. Nailed it.
same answer.... need ownership and a proposal to reestablish pro hockey and not repeat the mistakes made by either the Kings or the local ownership that followed, depending on which side you believe caused the eventual termination of pro hockey in NH
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Those were expansion franchises. Give the SAPHL a few seasons - if they can even pull off ONE season - before you get your hopes up.
And a shit ton of velcro for the TV and XBox...so they can put them on the walls.
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To take a break from the whole "starving artist" thing we're riffing on with the league budget and all, any league that seems to want to hedge their bets on Florida as a key destination to start is doomed to failure. In the past 25 years, we've had three examples; the Southern Hockey League (which at one time, was wanting to call itself the Sunshine Hockey League) back in 1995, and the whole WHA2/SEHL nonsense in the early 2000s.
It's not that hockey in Florida is impossible, but the idea of you doing hockey exclusively in Florida or that 60-80% of the franchises in that state is a sound investment is not ideal. But what do we know?
It's not that hockey in Florida is impossible, but the idea of you doing hockey exclusively in Florida or that 60-80% of the franchises in that state is a sound investment is not ideal. But what do we know?
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