Other Sports: Soccer/Football Thread Part Six

TCTC

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I have to say that tackling on Gundogan by that Scottish player was disgusting. Bought his ticket home there because he won't play another game this tournament.
 
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Cody Webster

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Didn't watch it, because the ML$ and their contract with Apple TV makes watching not an option, but the Union suck this year. Tied 1-1 to a Messi-less, 9 men for the last 20 minutes, Miami team, and they give up a goal and lose 2-1
 

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Edit: Thought it was great when his father said basically the same thing on TV yesterday.
 

TCTC

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How have the Netherlands gone from Bergkamp, Overmars, Kluivert, etc coached by Louis van Gaal to Gakpo, Depay and Reijnders coached by Ronald Koeman?
 

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How have the Netherlands gone from Bergkamp, Overmars, Kluivert, etc coached by Louis van Gaal to Gakpo, Depay and Reijnders coached by Ronald Koeman?

Tbf that ~1994-2004 generation was one of the greatest generations of players any national team in history has ever produced aha.

Even vs the Dutch 70s and 80s teams they were deeper.

It has really been 15 years now since the Dutch put out a team that at the start of a tournament you looked at and went "wow, world class players in every position and some on the bench too".

They have had a LOT of guys "fail" in terms of progress from being amazing u-18 to u-21 players and not becoming world class.

Though tbf their back line is strong and Depay is a different player for the Netherlands than he has been at club level since he left Lyon. But yeh, guys like Roy Makaay and Jimmy Flloyd Hasselbaink could not make the bench at times for the Netherlands in the late 90s and early 2000s... and if you transplanted them into the teams of the last 10 years they would be the best player!
 
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TCTC

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Tbf that ~1994-2004 generation was one of the greatest generations of players any national team in history has ever produced aha.

Even vs the Dutch 70s and 80s teams they were deeper.

It has really been 15 years now since the Dutch put out a team that at the start of a tournament you looked at and went "wow, world class players in every position and some on the bench too".

They have had a LOT of guys "fail" in terms of progress from being amazing u-18 to u-21 players and not becoming world class.

Though tbf their back line is strong and Depay is a different player for the Netherlands than he has been at club level since he left Lyon. But yeh, guys like Roy Makaay and Jimmy Flloyd Hasselbaink could not make the bench at times for the Netherlands in the late 90s and early 2000s... and if you transplanted them into the teams of the last 10 years they would be the best player!
Yeah, definitely a far cry from the team that was a perennial favorite (even though they never won lol). I wouldn't even count this current team as a dark horse. Especially without de Jong and Koopmeiners in midfield and with Koeman at the helm. Terrible coach, imo.

Their backline is solid, I guess. I'm always impressed by Ake. Very good player.
 
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