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Soccer / Football Thread Part Seven

Liverpool will be the most unconvincing Premier League winner in recent memory. They have nothing if the other team manages to shut Salah down.
 
TCTC said:
Liverpool will be the most unconvincing Premier League winner in recent memory. They have nothing if the other team manages to shut Salah down.
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that's why i've been concerned all year about them not really going out and signing anyone..and then they are still playing with fire by not re-signing him, VVD, and Trent to new contracts
 
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trostol said:
that's why i've been concerned all year about them not really going out and signing anyone..and then they are still playing with fire by not re-signing him, VVD, and Trent to new contracts
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Yeah, the Salah situation seems a bit odd. He's not getting younger, but he's still pretty much irreplaceable. Is it just negotiating tactics to get him on a cheaper deal? Pretty risky if so.
 
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Yeah, the Salah situation seems a bit odd. He's not getting younger, but he's still pretty much irreplaceable. Is it just negotiating tactics to get him on a cheaper deal? Pretty risky if so.
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there's been rumors on the LP reddit that says that Salah and VVD are more or less done..but if true what's the hold up on announcing..TAA is gone, i am pretty sure..and we do not have any "stars" that can carry the team
 
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I'm sure Liverpool won't lose all three on a free, but it's looking more and more likely that Salah is going to leave. He's won everything with Liverpool and they won't be the same team next year. He should go and make his Saudi billions whilst he can.

Meanwhile, for Forest it's looking more and more likely by the game. The Champions League was just a funny possibility but we're now 7 points clear of sixth with the best remaining fixtures in the league. This just might happen.
 
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I'm sure Liverpool won't lose all three on a free, but it's looking more and more likely that Salah is going to leave. He's won everything with Liverpool and they won't be the same team next year. He should go and make his Saudi billions whilst he can.

Meanwhile, for Forest it's looking more and more likely by the game. The Champions League was just a funny possibility but we're now 7 points clear of sixth with the best remaining fixtures in the league. This just might happen.
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They gambled big time, but it actually worked. Sadly, this seems to be the only way for promoted clubs to avoid going down again these days.
9 games to go and the 3 promoted clubs are basically all relegated. That's just ridiculous. And I can't see it being much different next season either.
 
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They gambled big time, but it actually worked. Sadly, this seems to be the only way for promoted clubs to avoid going down again these days.
9 games to go and the 3 promoted clubs are basically all relegated. That's just ridiculous. And I can't see it being much different next season either.
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We're only two years removed from all three clubs staying up. You have to invest for sure when you get promoted, but you have to do it intelligently. Forest bought youth and experience and it's paying dividends and our current starting XI "only" cost us something in the region of £140m. That has to be one of the lowest in the league.

Burnley and Ipswich have come up since and signed a lot of players but very little actual PL experience along with it - and it's been obvious to see.
 
1865 said:
We're only two years removed from all three clubs staying up. You have to invest for sure when you get promoted, but you have to do it intelligently. Forest bought youth and experience and it's paying dividends and our current starting XI "only" cost us something in the region of £140m. That has to be one of the lowest in the league.

Burnley and Ipswich have come up since and signed a lot of players but very little actual PL experience along with it - and it's been obvious to see.
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I think it's getting harder and harder for promoted clubs though. When I look at the current top 17 in the Premier League, I'm not sure I see one club I expect to struggle enough to face relegation next season. Even Wolves who are having a bad season I can see rebound next year with players like Cunha in their squad.

I mean one reason ManUtd and Tottenham are in midtable now is because the midtable clubs keep improving and keep building better squads with years of TV money. It's getting virtually impossible to catch up with that in one transfer window unless you spend like Forest did which is a huge risk.
Wouldn't Forest have been in big financiel trouble if they got relegated in their first season?
 
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I think it's getting harder and harder for promoted clubs though. When I look at the current top 17 in the Premier League, I'm not sure I see one club I expect to struggle enough to face relegation next season. Even Wolves who are having a bad season I can see rebound next year with players like Cunha in their squad.

I mean one reason ManUtd and Tottenham are in midtable now is because the midtable clubs keep improving and keep building better squads with years of TV money. It's getting virtually impossible to catch up with that in one transfer window unless you spend like Forest did which is a huge risk.
Wouldn't Forest have been in big financiel trouble if they got relegated in their first season?
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Probably not. You get huge parachute payments and we had a lot of very re-sellable players. We'd have had to cut costs of course, but we didn't *actually* spend as much as people made out. Ipswich this season and Burnley last season spent as much, if not more.
 
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Probably not. You get huge parachute payments and we had a lot of very re-sellable players. We'd have had to cut costs of course, but we didn't *actually* spend as much as people made out. Ipswich this season and Burnley last season spent as much, if not more.
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Yeah, I guess Forest just spent smarter. Brought in some players from Europe instead of buying the best players from the Championship which most promoted clubs seem to do.
And then they got MGW, of course. Many people scratched their heads when Forest paid 50 million or so for him, but he was well worth it. I've been a fan of him since his time at Sheffield United. Even though ironically he was one of the players who missed a penalty against Forest in the playoffs.
 
Yes, the whole process was unusual. We signed the player who missed the penalty in the semi-final, and then signed the two players who had good penalty shouts against us in the final too. Funny how things turn out.
 
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